Exactly.
The forum contains news and rumors coming from many different sources on the forum, unlike the the front page that just contains posts from a select few.
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Exactly.
The forum contains news and rumors coming from many different sources on the forum, unlike the the front page that just contains posts from a select few.From page 1, by arn:
It seems that the right people hear and take the right decisions. That's what made this site great in the first place I guess. Thanks arn.
It seems that the right people hear and take the right decisions. That's what made this site great in the first place I guess. Thanks arn.
Thanks! I am sure you know how foolish one looks when their poor attempt at irony falls flat.
It helps to be a little less condescending if you're trying to convince the rest of us that your input is valuable...
It helps if you are trying to demonstrate how condescending someone is to do so in a non condescending manner so as to practice what you preach, and not to quote out of context. I took the high road when people here were being sarcastic in a completely uncalled for way,
or for reasons of "seniority" chose that I was not worth replying to,Thank goodness you're here to help out
Irregardless of my being vindicated and arn, in all honesty and taking the high road himself, actually posting one of the stories I asked for while also admitting
; irregardless of my mentioning how pleased I was saying that
, and my repeatedly statingIt seems that the right people hear and take the right decisions. That's what made this site great in the first place I guess. Thanks arn.
and what have you, you chose to come here and in a very condescending tone accuse me of being condescending...
...oh the irony in that...
It's a good thing you don't run things around here.
By the same regards... Not every story will make it to the front page... And if I recall the Chinese hand writing feature was a story that has been around for a while. This site doesn't post every story for a variety of reasons. While it seems illogical that there would be so much coverage of the Pre release, it's no secret that the iPhone forum is getting more post (therefore, simple math tells one that it's probably relevant...)
I repeat the idea of submitting stories, as well as checking other websites (like I do and you do...)
It's no secret that MacRumors.com is not SnowLeopardBetaUpdateRumors.com..., it's actually PCRumors.com
I repeat the idea of submitting stories, as well as checking other websites (like I do and you do...)
It's no secret that MacRumors.com is not SnowLeopardBetaUpdateRumors.com..., it's actually PCRumors.com
@thegoldenmackid
Thanks for the polite and tempered reply, makes for a nice change. I was not referring to handwriting recognition part of the story but the flickr snow leopard album and the changes there in. As for the stories submission and checking other sites, points well taken. .
LOL at pcrumors, true!!! It's the joke of where you 'd likely go to hear rumors on dell, and the guy who doesn't know any better goes, well, I guess pcrumors.com, and pop there comes the mac!!
Thanks for the polite and tempered reply, makes for a nice change.
I was not referring to handwriting recognition part of the story but the flickr snow leopard album and the changes there in. As for the stories submission and checking other sites, points well taken. .LOL at pcrumors, true!!! It's the joke of where you 'd likely go to hear rumors on dell, and the guy who doesn't know any better goes, well, I guess pcrumors.com, and pop there comes the mac!!
I mean...iThink that you are sort of overreacting, MacRumors has a proven record of being "conservative" in its coverage. That's why Page 2 exists and that's why, despite not maybe having the most information, the site is still #1. (We're number one, we're number one...)@thegoldenmackid
Thanks for the polite and tempered reply, makes for a nice change.
It was an emotional reaction for sure, but I hand't really "gotten" the macrumors' style with the more conservative approach to the news up until now. And somehow also my breaking point was the three pre stories and the two zune ones, plus the usual barrage of very reactive windows folk these seem to attract which -to me- are tiresome to read in apple fan forums, I mean you get these guys everywhere on the net, at least here we can find some repose from the apple blah blah bad this, apple fanboys blah, blah that. But, like you said, I could have used more temperance in my approach as well.
My hat is off to Jessica for defending the OP. I was just reading through this thread, and i can't believe how most people here are defensive in the way they answer. As a guy who likes the site, and overall is having a good experience, i have to say the OP argument looks valid, and up to now no body has given a valid answer (except anglewatt, only when he talked about submitting an article to MR, though i didn't like his logic that only people who have been members for a long time should have an opinion!!).
And i am really disappointed to see what suppose to be "senior members", talk in very defensive and aggressive way toward the OP.
OP, i have to agree with you, most the big stories I heard myself about apple products have been from other sites (mainly appleinsider) and similar to what other people said, i visit this site mainly to read about other people problems, to help if i can and learn in the same time. So personally i am not bother, it will be great if this site can compete with appleinsider and others!
And i am really disappointed to see what suppose to be "senior members", talk in very defensive and aggressive way toward the OP.
OP, i have to agree with you, most the big stories I heard myself about apple products have been from other sites (mainly appleinsider) and similar to what other people said, i visit this site mainly to read about other people problems, to help if i can and learn in the same time. So personally i am not bother, it will be great if this site can compete with appleinsider and others!
hey u49, thanks for the support!
You summed up the way I feel too about some of the reactions here. And I didn't think anyone would mind taking the time to do so, thus I was very pleasantly surprised.
I was unaware until recently that other sites might take a more liberal approach to the more reserved approach to rumors that mr has.
Btw, huge fan of Rossoneri myself.
You summed up the way I feel too about some of the reactions here. And I didn't think anyone would mind taking the time to do so, thus I was very pleasantly surprised.
I was unaware until recently that other sites might take a more liberal approach to the more reserved approach to rumors that mr has.
Btw, huge fan of Rossoneri myself.
There are other sites to get meaty rumors. MR seems to have the largest and most active forum community. I get my meat from other markets and come to MR for the forums. Just the way it is.
"Senior Members" are "Senior" for a reason: they have been around for a while. That means that not only do they appreciate the style of the forum, but they have also had an integral role in shaping the nature of the forum. I don't think that the responses have been that asinine or rude...
It's sort of an awkward position, either:
A. Agree with the OP that more news is good
B. Defend the more selective approach
iThink that for the most part, most of the "Senior Members" believe that there is a happy balance that has led to a winning formula...
#1: We posted first: https://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/28/steve-jobs-spotted-on-apple-campus-seems-fine/
#2: Combined with #1
#3: We posted late: https://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/31/more-snow-leopard-screenshots-chinese-handwriting-video/
#4: We posted first here: https://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/25/over-the-air-tv-and-movie-downloads-via-iphone/ and then verification here: https://www.macrumors.com/2009/05/2...ess-movie-and-tv-downloads-to-iphone-surface/
#5: I didn't find that interesting at the time.
Seemingly personal rumors of Steve Jobs appearances or health, we have tended to shy away from -- so that's why #1 and #2 were combined into a Page 2 story.
arn
Lets all settle it over a big fight! At WWDC! - who's with (or against) me?
No, only joking. I'm not the violent type. I hope OP didn't think I was being awful to him with my reply (which was just an idea anyway), I don't think he did because his subsequent reply wasn't loaded with sarcasm or emotion. If he did - sorry OP. Hug it out?
AppleMatt
No, only joking. I'm not the violent type. I hope OP didn't think I was being awful to him with my reply (which was just an idea anyway), I don't think he did because his subsequent reply wasn't loaded with sarcasm or emotion. If he did - sorry OP. Hug it out?
AppleMatt
Water under the bridge.
Now excuse me while I pass out, wake me up not a minute earlier than the start of WWDC!
NB Thread title change.
Now excuse me while I pass out, wake me up not a minute earlier than the start of WWDC!
NB Thread title change.
I never said only long time members should have opinions. That's a baseless claim. I said that the short term member's view of any trends on the site are limited and incomplete. Yes, he could have researched MR's past, but he showed nothing to reflect that. It's like asking a teenager how the current president compares to the past 10. Yes, the teenagers could have learned about past presidents, but most couldn't make very good judgments compared to those who were around during those presidencies.
Since Arn has shown most of what the OP thought hadn't been covered has been, this only further backs up my thinking that the OP didn't research his issues with the site beforehand (and many people don't). His original post was baseless (in terms of facts). My posts had no intended tone, I was simply making observations and offering opinions as to how to contribute. If the OP feels I was rude then sorry, but I am glad to see your opinion of the site has changed throughout the thread and you get to see how participating can lead to some changes here.
As a person who runs my own large forum site, this site does a great job separating the good stuff from the not so good stuff. Anything of importance to the Mac community is posted on the home page. I always check the home page here first then wonder into the forums to see who I can help.
It's impossible to please everyone so the mods do what they think is necessary to make MacRumors the best place for Mac info and talk. As with anything else, users are free to go elsewhere. That's the beauty of the internet.
It's impossible to please everyone so the mods do what they think is necessary to make MacRumors the best place for Mac info and talk. As with anything else, users are free to go elsewhere. That's the beauty of the internet.
hey u49, thanks for the support!
You summed up the way I feel too about some of the reactions here. And I didn't think anyone would mind taking the time to do so, thus I was very pleasantly surprised.
I was unaware until recently that other sites might take a more liberal approach to the more reserved approach to rumors that mr has.
Btw, huge fan of Rossoneri myself.
You are welcome
Forza Milan!! . i have to say, i like how the latest responses became more friendly as the thread progressed. I suppose people usually overreact in the start of an argument but then when they reflect they have much clearer vision and reason. my hat is off for all of you guys. MR member forever
i kind of agree with the thread starter while disagreeing with other aspects.
Personally I think the value of this site is in the forums and comments. The quality of the commenters are by far the best for apple fans on the web. Appleinsider doesnt come close.
Concerning stories. I could be wrong but it seems like Appleinsider has dedicated writers that come up with stories about apple (some of which are pretty cool to read). While I consider Macrumors to be about....rumors....and not original stories about certain aspects of apple.
I must say though that it does seem like appleinsider is kicking it up a notch in the past few months. They seem to get alot of stories first but again they seem to be focused on slightly different topics than this site so I would think most people who check appleinsider still check this site.
Personally I think the value of this site is in the forums and comments. The quality of the commenters are by far the best for apple fans on the web. Appleinsider doesnt come close.
Concerning stories. I could be wrong but it seems like Appleinsider has dedicated writers that come up with stories about apple (some of which are pretty cool to read). While I consider Macrumors to be about....rumors....and not original stories about certain aspects of apple.
I must say though that it does seem like appleinsider is kicking it up a notch in the past few months. They seem to get alot of stories first but again they seem to be focused on slightly different topics than this site so I would think most people who check appleinsider still check this site.