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Just received delivery of the 128Gb iPad Pro. It's been a long time since I had an Apple iPad but man it's worth the wait. This thing is huge and gorgeous. I love the feeling of an A4 sized iPad.

The screen is huge and beautiful and detailed. It literally feels like I'm holding the internet in my hands!
 
That is exactly what I do. I use the ipad for other stuff. But bedtime fiction/nonfiction epub reading? I just use the Kindle PW. I feel like a gadget collector but there it is.
One can never have too many gadgets.

I'm writing this in Tapatalk on my Galaxy Note 4; read ebooks on a Kindle paperwhite, Mags and comics on the iPP, FLAC music on a Fiio X5, and my poor Galaxy Tab S 10.1" has been repurposed as a bedside alarm clock radio running TuneIn and a jumbo digital clock display

That Kindle PQ is tough to beat tho for reading comfort and battery life.
 
When using side by side in landscape (50/50 screen seperation) i noticed it looked to be exactly two iPad Mini screens side by side.. but I think it's actually larger and closer to having two Air2 screens side by side.. Anybody know the exact measurements here?
 
Side by side landscape gives you 2 7.75 tall in by 5 in wide display areas. A mini is 6.25 tall x 4.75 wide
 
Just received delivery of the 128Gb iPad Pro. It's been a long time since I had an Apple iPad but man it's worth the wait. This thing is huge and gorgeous. I love the feeling of an A4 sized iPad.

The screen is huge and beautiful and detailed. It literally feels like I'm holding the internet in my hands!

Yup, it's a game changer. I was trying to pick it apart today and the more hyper critical I got with it, the more I was impressed with its quality. I am a huge Air 2 fan and own 2 but the Pro makes my Air 2 look and sound like a phone.
 
When using side by side in landscape (50/50 screen seperation) i noticed it looked to be exactly two iPad Mini screens side by side.. but I think it's actually larger and closer to having two Air2 screens side by side.. Anybody know the exact measurements here?

Lisa has a great review of it and actually holds ALL iPad sizes up against it for reference at about 4 minutes 35 seconds inot video. She is NOT a fan of it however even though she is an artist and loves Apple products. Mine just shipped from China so hoping I like it better than she did darn it...Her review is at:
 
Lisa has a great review of it and actually holds ALL iPad sizes up against it for reference at about 4 minutes 35 seconds inot video. She is NOT a fan of it however even though she is an artist and loves Apple products. Mine just shipped from China so hoping I like it better than she did darn it...Her review is at:
I think the good news is looking at most of the reviews, no one criticises the hardware.

The only problem with the iPad pro is that for a so called pro device, it had the same old boring watered down software running it. However that is an easy change for Apple.

The dream is obviously to have more powerful applications made for it, true versions of photo shop, light room, Autocad etc however I doubt these big companies will put out the resources needed. Mainly because I can't see people paying thousands of dollars for an app, or even hundreds of dollars for an app.
 
I think the good news is looking at most of the reviews, no one criticises the hardware.

The only problem with the iPad pro is that for a so called pro device, it had the same old boring watered down software running it. However that is an easy change for Apple.

The dream is obviously to have more powerful applications made for it, true versions of photo shop, light room, Autocad etc however I doubt these big companies will put out the resources needed. Mainly because I can't see people paying thousands of dollars for an app, or even hundreds of dollars for an app.
Adobe could get/keep more subscriptions. Pixel mator is already cheaper and easier to use and is becoming a formiddable photoshop competitor.
 
I think the good news is looking at most of the reviews, no one criticises the hardware.

The only problem with the iPad pro is that for a so called pro device, it had the same old boring watered down software running it. However that is an easy change for Apple.

The dream is obviously to have more powerful applications made for it, true versions of photo shop, light room, Autocad etc however I doubt these big companies will put out the resources needed. Mainly because I can't see people paying thousands of dollars for an app, or even hundreds of dollars for an app.
Apple needs to allow iPP only apps that allow for trials and paid upgrades and then feature them on the App Store.
 
I think the good news is looking at most of the reviews, no one criticises the hardware.

The only problem with the iPad pro is that for a so called pro device, it had the same old boring watered down software running it. However that is an easy change for Apple.

The dream is obviously to have more powerful applications made for it, true versions of photo shop, light room, Autocad etc however I doubt these big companies will put out the resources needed. Mainly because I can't see people paying thousands of dollars for an app, or even hundreds of dollars for an app.

It might be time to resolve those insane prices. It's a holdover from ye-oldey days when the only people they cared about selling Photoshop, 3D Studio, etc. to were design studios, animation houses, and other large businesses which were generating significant revenue with the software. It's a pricing model designed for low volume in an era with a huge potential customer base.

Today everyone wants a copy of Photoshop (Z-brush, 3D Studio), but the prices for this class of software have remained at the same levels they were decades ago. That's why every amateur digital artist (except for me of course) always had a... let's say a very special copy of things like Photoshop. Because the prices were insane for hobbyists and there were no cheaper alternatives.

Here's one idea: Commercial licenses can stay the way they are, and hobbyist licenses can be more in line with normal software prices. When your company income passes some line you have to pay the commercial license fee for every "seat" or you'll be violating your license agreement.
 
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It might be time to resolve those insane prices. It's a holdover from ye-oldey days when the only people they cared about selling Photoshop, 3D Studio, etc. to were design studios, animation houses, and other large businesses which were generating significant revenue with the software. It's a pricing model designed for low volume in an era with a huge potential customer base.

Today everyone wants a copy of Photoshop (Z-brush, 3D Studio), but the prices for this class of software have remained at the same levels they were decades ago. That's why every amateur digital artist (except for me of course) always had a... let's say a very special copy of things like Photoshop. Because the prices were insane for hobbyists and there were no cheaper alternatives.

Here's one idea: Commercial licenses can stay the way they are, and hobbyist licenses can be more in line with normal software prices. When your company income passes some line you have to pay the commercial license fee for every "seat" or you'll be violating your license agreement.
I agree the license prices are massive. My company pays each year 12000 Per network license for the autodesk design suit per draftsman. And to be honest most years add very little in terms of new features, but we still pay it because that's just what we have to do.

And we make that money back in a week or so per project so yea.

These are professional software apps though, the cost is high because the demand is high and the tools help create projects worth hundreds of millions. Of course autodesk etc can demand that price, because people pay.

I'm not sure how they can implement a Comercial license though? Wouldn't it cost millions to maintain a data base, and how would they collect authentic information off clients? As in what's stopping me simply reporting my finances as something else?
 
Keep in mind that after your 14 day period, you will only get Apple Gift Cards. NOT CASH OR CREDIT CARD RETURN CREDIT. Please check apple to confirm. they told me this today.

Are you sure they weren't talking about what happens when you actually gift it to someone? Then what happens is you'd give the giftee a gift receipt along with the gift, and if they return it, they get a gift card.

When the original purchaser takes it back, you get the money back in whatever form you paid.

I know this because this happened when our boss gave my partner an Apple Watch for his birthday. He wanted to return it for a gift card, but our boss hadn't gotten a gift receipt, which complicated things. We got it done in the end, but I now know that when you are buying something to give as a gift, ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO GET A GIFT RECEIPT! :D
 
I don't have any problems regarding the size (no pun intended), but I do feel it is just too heavy for me. The weight is what makes it kind of cumbersome to me. I hope in the future they can somehow make it lighter, but I don't know if there is any real margin to shave off.

because of the weight, I'd much rather have an iPad air 3 with Pencil support.
 
Uncomfortable to sit on the sofa and browse with. Haven't been in bed with it yet but can't see it being comfortable.

Laying it on the table is fine but holding it up to view emails, browse the web etc is just uncomfortable. Not the weight or anything. It doesn't feel heavy. It's just uncomfortably big.

I find couch/bed use better than it though as I essentially rest in in portrait on my lap or stomach.
 
Are you sure they weren't talking about what happens when you actually gift it to someone? Then what happens is you'd give the giftee a gift receipt along with the gift, and if they return it, they get a gift card.

When the original purchaser takes it back, you get the money back in whatever form you paid.

I know this because this happened when our boss gave my partner an Apple Watch for his birthday. He wanted to return it for a gift card, but our boss hadn't gotten a gift receipt, which complicated things. We got it done in the end, but I now know that when you are buying something to give as a gift, ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO GET A GIFT RECEIPT! :D
OK Below is a CHAT I just finished a minute ago with Apple. we DO get a 100% CASH refund if desired until Jan 2016 if we choose. Here is a portion of my chat below I just finished....
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  • Oh, I read online that if AFTER 14 days only an Apple "credit" is issued and NOT a refund?

    That is a normal return period. As it is the holiday season, purchased made from Nov 1 - Dec 25 have until Jan 8th to be returned.

    And thank you for verifying the billing info!

    OK, I was confused then. Do I just contact you then AFTER it arrives?

    The 14 day return period is standard, and outside of the Nov 1 - Dec 25 purchase dates would apply from when you receive the product. Since the order has already shipped, I can set up a return online. Once you receive it, you can use the FedEx return label, have FedEx pick it up or drop it off with them, for a return for full refund.

    Unless you would rather go into an Apple Retail Store to return it. The refund takes a couple days less, if you do it in store. The refund processes within 5 business days of the return clearing.
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    I then asked if I opened it, tried it and just did not like it, can I return it and she responded 100% YES with NO fees all the way until the Jan 2016 date. So I will fell a LOT safer about my order now:)
 
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I wonder how people are typing on this thing? I can type on my Mini quite fast in portrait with 2 thumbs, but that isn't possible at all with the Pro. And laying it flat on the table everytime you have to type something? That seems impractical..

Not hating, i just couldn't really figure out how to use it in store ;)
 
I wonder how people are typing on this thing? I can type on my Mini quite fast in portrait with 2 thumbs, but that isn't possible at all with the Pro. And laying it flat on the table everytime you have to type something? That seems impractical..

Not hating, i just couldn't really figure out how to use it in store ;)

On my lap, hunting and pecking. :) Anything needing to be done fast I would use an external keyboard.
 
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At least one other thread lamented the lack of split keyboard on the iPP. Not so sure that would help in landscape mode. I think my two thumbs would not be able to hold the iPP and cover the keyboard like my iPad Ait 2. In portrait I'm trying to envision how that would work balance wise is you were holding in your hands. Right now I have the IPP propped on my lap with the Smart Cover in prop mode. Works pretty fast.
 
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