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Those Were Mac Mini and White MacBook Part Numbers, Not Mac Pros

PeterQVenkman said:
Have they gotten rid of the funk magnet that is the rubber bottom on that thing yet? It gets gross really quickly.
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If you're on about the Mac Mini - I'm sure Apple will gladly ditch that thing once they stop offering Bluetooth and Wifi. Unlike other options - there is no screen or keyboard in which to embed the antennas. If the entire unit was metal, you'd have terrible (if any) RF signal.

Unless you'd rather an external antenna or three?
 
once again 9to5mac is issuing non reliable rumors...


they claim to have excellent sources when they pretend that new Mac will be Mac Pro, and at the last minute, they are not MP anymore...


come one guys, anyone can have this kind of info a few days before a new product arrives

all the retailers have this kind of product numbers...
 
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Originally Posted by gnasher729
The White MacBook has better battery life, faster CPU, more RAM, bigger hard drive, and it is cheaper. So how is the MacBook Air a replacement?

Some excellent points. I think that the answer is that there are those who place form over function. I am looking forward to buying a new MacBook with a 750GB hard drive.

I see a lot of posts where people are saying that apple needs to kill the MacBook. If you go to the U.S. Apple Store right now you will see the current top selling items.

Top Sellers Mac

1. MacBook Pro
2. iMac
3. Magic Trackpad
4. Epson Stylus NX420 All-in-One Printer
5. MacBook

And this is at the current specs! A lot of people love the MacBook. It does not need to be killed. It needs to be given the respect that it deserves. This item used to be Apple's best seller and from the looks of it, it still has a strong following. Not everybody wants the product with the newest technology such as a low capacity SSD. I do realize that I am in the minority here, but I place function over form. You might be able to make something really small, but should you? I don't think so. Someone mentioned that they would like to see a full-size 3.5" hard drive is the Mac Mini and someone else told him that it wouldn't fit. Why does the Mini have to be so small. If it were just a little bit bigger it would still be really small, but it could utilize components that are (I believe) less expensive and more powerful. It is, after all, a desktop computer! Why does it have to be so small that is is limited to laptop components? The same thing for the iMac. I love the iMac, but why does it have to be so thin. It too, is limited by laptop components. It could be just a little bit larger and utilize desktop components. Again, we (as a group) seem to prefer form over function, but I would suggest to you that products such as the Mini could be just a little bit larger (we are talking less than one or one and a half inches) and the product could be so much more in terms of performance. And it would still be beautiful. Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. Just my opinion.
 
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shompa said:
Yep. And later you will regret it.
Faster is fun, but how many full read/write do you have on the SSD? Ok, you can start applications 0.5 sec faster then a "slow" SSD.

16GB ram? What are you going to do? 2000000x2000000 images in Photoshop?
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I'm a dynamics visual effects artist. I could easily max 128GB ram if I had access to it...
 
I'm potentially in the market for a Mac mini, and will be very tempted especially if the price drop rumours are true.

Is it possible / probable that they'll put a quad-core CPU in? I'd really like that.
 
Big-TDI-Guy said:
If you're on about the Mac Mini - I'm sure Apple will gladly ditch that thing once they stop offering Bluetooth and Wifi. Unlike other options - there is no screen or keyboard in which to embed the antennas. If the entire unit was metal, you'd have terrible (if any) RF signal.

Unless you'd rather an external antenna or three?
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Sorry, I didn't specify - I meant the rubber bottom on the white plastic MacBook.

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Well, this makes a lot more sense. The MacBooks and Mac Minis are extremely popular products, and it's still too early for a Mac Pro update.
 
Ideas...

What are you guys expecting for the MacBook? I'd say a Core i5 or Core i7(dual core variant?) is reasonable...4GB minimum?

Mac Mini can get Core i5 or Core i7(Quad Core?). 4 GB minimum?

Similar setup for Macbook Air.

The only problem I see with these setups is that they will have to have Intel IGP. MBA and MB has no space for external GPU, and I wonder if Apple will try to get external GPU on Mac Mini.

This problem COULD BE FIXED with an External GPU utilizing thunderbolt, but whether apple will make that or not is a pretty good question. :apple:
 
SamuraiArtGuy said:
I'm a little disappointed, but not at all surprised.

My gut reaction that a Mac Pro update, however much we want one, is not all that high a priority for Apple. And as already been pointed out, the next-gen workstation/server CPUs don't seem to be available yet, unless Apple is getting happy-happy from Intel WAY ahead and under the radar. If Apple drops new Mac Pros with Lion, I WILL be surprised. But they're almost certainly going get teh shiny on the consumer pitched MacBooks, Airs, and Minis first.

But the last Mac Pro update was a year and a half waiting, and pretty "meh" by most opinions. I don't think that Apple is really all that interested in the professional user market. When the new Mac Pros drop, whether it's later this summer, fall... or next year, I don't expect much more than thunderbolt, and a CPU and Graphics Card bump... and glossy display - no change there. Based on all indications and Apple's past behavior and apparent disinterest, I'm not holding my breath for eSATA, USB 3, Cutting edge Graphics Cards or other desired high-end tech. Blu-ray? Oh, DO dream on.

Your mileage may vary.
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yes and no. the MP release cycle is largely determined by intel's release cycle. the xeons for dual cpu machines still haven't come out ... although i do wish they'd use i7s for the single cpu MPs. much more cost effective.
 
SamuraiArtGuy said:
My gut reaction that a Mac Pro update, however much we want one, is not all that high a priority for Apple. And as already been pointed out, the next-gen workstation/server CPUs don't seem to be available yet, unless Apple is getting happy-happy from Intel WAY ahead and under the radar. If Apple drops new Mac Pros with Lion, I WILL be surprised. ...

But the last Mac Pro update was a year and a half waiting, and pretty "meh" by most opinions. I don't think that Apple is really all that interested in the professional user market. When the new Mac Pros drop, whether it's later this summer, fall... or next year, I don't expect much more than thunderbolt, and a CPU and Graphics Card bump... and glossy display - no change there. ...
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I can't say you're wrong, but I hope you're wrong. I'd at least like to see an option with a Xeon processor and the docks to support more RAM (like a few hundred).

It would be a nice option for some us of that are UNIX/Mac inclined and don't want to make the jump to large servers with Linux or Ubuntu or the like....
 
wiz329 said:
yes and no. the MP release cycle is largely determined by intel's release cycle. the xeons for dual cpu machines still haven't come out ... although i do wish they'd use i7s for the single cpu MPs. much more cost effective.
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Not really, the Xeon utilises a different chipset to the Core i5/7. Apple would end up supporting two completely different architectures in the same range without an upgrade path between them.
 
Will Best Buy release the same day as everyone else?

I went there for lunch today, and they had about 10 giant plastic crates completely wrapped tight against one of the structural pillars in a black wrapping. It was right next to the table they feature the Apple products, so it made me wonder.

I took a shot of the top labeling, but it didn't have any serial #'s on them.
 
xheathen said:
Will Best Buy release the same day as everyone else?

I went there for lunch today, and they had about 10 giant plastic crates completely wrapped tight against one of the structural pillars in a black wrapping. It was right next to the table they feature the Apple products, so it made me wonder.

I took a shot of the top labeling, but it didn't have any serial #'s on them.
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best buy or any other retailers would not get stock first.

at times, it takes couple of days for the new product to arrive at apple stores...
 
altecXP said:
Thunderbolt isn't supported in the chipset either, and its still there. Thunderbolt covers NOTHING as there is not any adapters or really any thing to use with it. USB3 devices already exist and are in use.

THunderbolt may be faster, but its already months behind the USB3 market in penetration and the longer the wait the less likely it will be that the market will ever support it to the level of USB3.
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And don't forget SATA III, that's an even more ridiculous omission from a "pro" machine with space for at least four internal drives.

Roessnakhan said:
It's been a year, no?
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Yeah, but if Intel won't have chips ready for a couple more months, it makes sense to wait for them.

MagicBoy said:
Not really, the Xeon utilises a different chipset to the Core i5/7. Apple would end up supporting two completely different architectures in the same range without an upgrade path between them.
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Right now the quad and 8 core MP models already use different chipsets, and there's no upgrade path between them. Apple already supports i7 in the iMac so it's not like they'd be taking on a brand new CPU they've never used before. Using i7 for 4/6 core and xeon for 8/12 makes perfect sense, they are different motherboards already and they'd still be different motherboards.
 
milo said:
And don't forget SATA III, that's an even more ridiculous omission from a "pro" machine with space for at least four internal drives.

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Right now the quad and 8 core MP models already use different chipsets, and there's no upgrade path between them. Apple already supports i7 in the iMac so it's not like they'd be taking on a brand new CPU they've never used before. Using i7 for 4/6 core and xeon for 8/12 makes perfect sense, they are different motherboards already and they'd still be different motherboards.
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SATA 6Gbps postdates the chipset and offers very little benefit unless your install bleeding edge SSDs.

As far as I'm concerned Mac Pro without a Xeon platform stops being an Mac Pro. The Xeon and the associated chipsets are designed for performance with excellent stability hence they are used in Workstations and Servers - both roles the Mac Pro fulfills. An i5/i7 CPU machine is merely a fast desktop, a role that the oft mentioned xMac would fill nicely.
 
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