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Your system is shy of 5800 points. In order to really "feel" an improvement, the rule of thumb demands twice the performance, so you would need at least ~12.000 points, which roughly equals the latest high-end iMac @3.4GHz (it only has a few MP's above it in the referenced table, all sporting 8 cores or more).

Actually i'm basically sitting in the same boat with a similar setup (MP1,1 with 2,66GHz, 12GB, 4870+7300, SSD bootdevice). However - except for video transcoding i can't find any real issue where the machine would limit my work noticably, so unless there'll be a new MP with a significantly improved price/performance ratio or really nice new features (i.e. smaller case, internal RAID-5, better connectivity or something i don't think of right now) i think i can hold out comfortably another year or two...

Thanks for the advice.

I will say that I don't feel things going that much faster with the Intel SSD as boot vs. the WD VelociRaptor 10,000 RPM SATA that sat before it. When I upgraded my MacBook Pro to a Patriot Torx SSD it was night and day. The VelociRaptor is fast and the system has only a 3Gb/sec SATA bus, and the PCIe slots are too slow for a 6Gb/sec SATA interface.

Hmm.



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They don't do that either, they just make the most expensive because their casing is well designed, and they have the market cornered on OS X. They take the same hardware from a $999-1,200 PC, make it look pretty and charge $2,200.

Anyone that honestly think that Apple sells superior hardware is either just ignorant to the current state of hardware, or just trying to give themselves another reason other than "I wanted OS X" or "I think it's pretty" because that's really the only two reasons to but Apple. Apple make average hardware look stylish.

Not stylish, but usable. Have you tried using a trackpad on other systems? My data is from about 2 years ago, but it was abysmal. I tried everything from a netbook to a more-expensive-than-Apple IBM thinkpad, and they all sucked.

I can't blame the PC distributors themselves because they're forced to work with Microsoft and in a commodity market (where innovations are easily stolen)... HP will likely be the first PC-box company to break out of the mold if/when they get WebOS on a laptop.

I buy Apple not because it's stylish or pretty but because of things like fast DHCP and usable trackpads and durable hardware (I'm normally a guy who buys and holds something as long as it will last - upgrades mean I gift the hardware to relatives or friends).

The style and prettiness of it is just icing.
 
Not really, the Xeon utilises a different chipset to the Core i5/7. Apple would end up supporting two completely different architectures in the same range without an upgrade path between them.

Which is a problem, why? Unless you are doing serious *pro* work, using programs that can use every last core the MP has to offer with highly scalable programs, not having a xeon wouldn't really hurt you that much. From what I understand, if you want dual CPUs you HAVE to have a xeon. But to be honest, for a lot of people that would use a MP, but aren't doing rendering or doing a lot of parallel programing, a top-of-thee-line i7 would be just fine for the single-cpu systems. And it would make a lot of sense, price-wise. No need to buy what you won't use.


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As far as I'm concerned Mac Pro without a Xeon platform stops being an Mac Pro. The Xeon and the associated chipsets are designed for performance with excellent stability hence they are used in Workstations and Servers - both roles the Mac Pro fulfills. An i5/i7 CPU machine is merely a fast desktop, a role that the oft mentioned xMac would fill nicely.

See above. If you're only buying a single-cpu Mac Pro model, chances are you can get away without a server grade processor and ECC enabled memory. The savings would be substantial and could be used to do some upgrades to the system that would actually make a substantial difference (e.g. more than 3 GB of RAM, a couple of SSDs etc.)

Such a system may not technically be a "professional setup", but part of the Mac Pro market consists of people who need the expandability and performance of a Mac Pro vs. iMac, but don't need 12 cores or ECC enabled memory. (in reality VERY FEW programs scale well past 2-4 cores, most of them being some sort of rendering. In fact, programs like CS5 photoshop actually run faster on a hexacore system than a 12-core one.)
 
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Those were good days when Macbook still comes in black/white. All aluminum design feels boring to me. Although I have some unibody Macs, but I think we need some variations and change.

For those who say "Macbook should be died already and replaced by Air" .. think again, for the same price as basic MBA, you get bigger screen, bigger hard drive, better processor, and upgradeable RAM.

In short you get basic Macbook Pro spec on basic MBA price, in turn you don't get nice aluminum, but white plastic looks nice TBH (only need to be more careful when handled)

And for those all feature, some people want to trade in into cramped 64GB SSD, slow-ish processor and 11" display? Oh come on :rolleyes: Do as you please, but not everybody have to be like you ... Air is for portability, and MBW should never die for MBA, it's still a proper workstation for everyday computing
 
Those were good days when Macbook still comes in black/white. All aluminum design feels boring to me. Although I have some unibody Macs, but I think we need some variations and change.

For those who say "Macbook should be died already and replaced by Air" .. think again, for the same price as basic MBA, you get bigger screen, bigger hard drive, better processor, and upgradeable RAM.

In short you get basic Macbook Pro spec on basic MBA price, in turn you don't get nice aluminum, but white plastic looks nice TBH (only need to be more careful when handled)

And for those all feature, some people want to trade in into cramped 64GB SSD, slow-ish processor and 11" display? Oh come on :rolleyes: Do as you please, but not everybody have to be like you ... Air is for portability, and MBW should never die for MBA, it's still a proper workstation for everyday computing

Agreed. MBA and MB markets are clearly different. If my laptop were my sole computer, I would definitely want RAM expandability, a decent size screen, and the ability to put as large of hard drive as I want in it. For me, the MBA would simply not cut it.

However, those that are arguing that the MB should be gone ... will be right. Eventually. Eventually mobile computer will get more and more powerful and the MBP and MB will be replaced by a MBA-like computer. just not yet.
 
but dont all macbook white crack and battery expands too? does the battery expands in MBP?
 
but dont all macbook white crack and battery expands too? does the battery expands in MBP?

My 06 had the cracking palm rest (now fixed) and the sharp edges do develop hairline cracks which is a bit rubbish to be honest. Not too sure about the new ones. I've read here about the battery expanding, though I know a few with newer and older Macbooks - none of us had that issue.
 
They don't do that either, they just make the most expensive because their casing is well designed, and they have the market cornered on OS X. They take the same hardware from a $999-1,200 PC, make it look pretty and charge $2,200.

Anyone that honestly think that Apple sells superior hardware is either just ignorant to the current state of hardware, or just trying to give themselves another reason other than "I wanted OS X" or "I think it's pretty" because that's really the only two reasons to but Apple. Apple make average hardware look stylish.

It seems you have a very limited view of "hardware". "Apple makes average hardware look stylish"??? The looks is part of the hardware. Of course you pay for the looks. If you go to a hairdresser, 99% of what you pay for is the looks (if you just want your hair cut, you can do that yourself for free; just doesn't look too good). A Mac isn't "average hardware looking stylish", it is "stylish hardware". (If you don't understand the difference don't worry; Dell's hardware designers don't understand it either).

And battery life is part of the hardware. And an excellent keyboard is part of the hardware. And easily swappable hard drive is part of the hardware. And the best trackpad by a mile is part of the hardware. And so on. (And my wife will get a new iPad when her May 2006 MacBook breaks down; that will probably be an iPad 5 :D )
 
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Something must be going up. I ordered a MacBook around 6 hours ago and I haven't receive any email from apple, but the order is placed. Hopefully the upgrade is on the way :)
 
Bring it on

I've more or less given up on mobile computing and still have a late 2007 macbook that requires a new battery, but still operates with Lion and other essential programmes I need to use whilst away from my desk.

My interest is in a new Mac Mini, hopefully with TB, a minimum 640HDD and minimum i3 chipset and discrete graphics chip - not too sure about optic anymore - still have need now and again to insert a DVD in existing mac Mini.

If Apple upgrade, I'll jump onboard and get a new one, my old 2010 can then be utilised as a second MM/ server, or be given to my parents.

I LOVE THE MAC MINI
 
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how easily does MBP dents?

My PowerBook g4 (aluminum) slipped out of my hands about a half a foot from the floor when I was getting it out of my laptop bag and the small drop caused a huge dent in the corner of the computer.
Five years down the track through much abuse and it still functions flawlessly, if somewhat slow.
 
I love the Mini too!, only Mac I've ever had, about 3 or 4 of them. I'm still on the 2009 model, 2010 mini was in many ways an overpriced downgrade. Hooked to a large HDTV, Mini offers a great computing experience compared to a desktop. And I don't like notebooks, Airs are cool, but my iPad does everything I want on the go.
Mini for the winni!
 
I agree with Hellhammer about the Mac Pros .... but am I the only one shocked that Apple is still hanging on to the white macbook? Considering they can just nix it with the Airs ... Unless they give the white macbooks the specs of the Air (ie: Higher resolution screen ) I wouldn't get to excited.

No, I'm shocked too - I'm surprised from Apple's position they just haven't dumped them, told DVD drive needers to but the low end MBP 13" (which isn't much more money but performance wise much better) and those that want to only spend a thousand, get the simple Air. There line up has always made sense, they never did more than they need to but now it's becoming messy.
 
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