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Thoughts on AMD Radeon R9 M370X over the Nvidia 750m?

Kauai said:
This should be a pretty significant upgrade over the 650M, right?
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Being that Apple claims it's up to 80% faster than the 750m, and the 750m was 10-20% faster than the 650m, it should be a significant upgrade. I'm excited to see the benchmarks, very much considering pulling the trigger on this model
 
As sure as day becomes night Apple will switch from NVIDIA to AMD and vice versa every 3 or 4 years, just to keep them playing off of each other (and because of their own internal oneupmanship).
 
capitanbuzo said:
There's now a thread with some guy who has it with cine bench scores.
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Confusingly, the scores are on par with the 750m according to other commenters :(:(:(

Does anyone have cinebench scores for the 650m (retina mid 2012)??
 
HarryT said:
Confusingly, the scores are on par with the 750m according to other commenters :(:(:(

Does anyone have cinebench scores for the 650m (retina mid 2012)??
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Cinebench as a GPU benchmark is worthless. It's only good as a CPU benchmark.

To test the GPU we need to run games on it or game specific benchmarks like those made by Futuremark.
 
can someone correct me if i'm wrong, but this time next year the retina 15 inch will have had the iris pro 5200 from 2013-2016, same graphics chip 3 years running?
 
Stacc said:
Incorrect. The technology on the chip itself will also be shared with hardware available for the PC. For example GPU in the AMD m295X in the iMac is known as "Tonga" and is available for the PC as the R9 285X.

AMD releases separate bootcamp drivers for windows, but you can hack the general drivers from AMD to work under bootcamp. There is a thread somewhere in the Mac Pro forum where someone uses it to get better performance out of the D300/D500/D700.

The catch is no one knows what is in the M370X. However, it is safe to say that if its something not yet available on the PC, it will be soon and there will certainly be driver support for it in windows.
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You don't have to "hack" anything. Just download the current version of the Catalyst package (AMD) or GeForce package (nVidia) and install them in Windows. That's how I've handled GPU drivers under Bootcamp for a while now.
 
muffinman3679 said:
can someone correct me if i'm wrong, but this time next year the retina 15 inch will have had the iris pro 5200 from 2013-2016, same graphics chip 3 years running?
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That assumes there is no upgrade between now and then. Since the 6200 is tied to Broadwell, chances are that Apple may just skip Broadwell completely and jump to whatever version of the Iris Pro Intel uses for Skylake.
 
muffinman3679 said:
can someone correct me if i'm wrong, but this time next year the retina 15 inch will have had the iris pro 5200 from 2013-2016, same graphics chip 3 years running?
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It's quite likely they will get skylake before that, around march/april next year most likely, although some eternal optimists are predicting as early as autumn for that upgrade.

But that is the same for every one that is still the best available integrated graphics you can get.

Pointing out that they have had the same graphics chips for what will probably be 2 1/2 years says nothing (late 2013 - early 2016). Most manufacturers used the cheaper chips with the HD4600 graphics that are far worse and will have had to use them for 2 1/2 years as well.

Until Intel release something else all the manufacturers are in the same boat.
 
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dmccloud said:
You don't have to "hack" anything. Just download the current version of the Catalyst package (AMD) or GeForce package (nVidia) and install them in Windows. That's how I've handled GPU drivers under Bootcamp for a while now.
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That didn't work back then when the M295X was just released with the retina iMacs. I was one of the launch day buyers of the 5K iMac with M295X and not even the latest Catalyst drivers at that time would work, because the M295X was probably the first Tonga in the market.

I think this will also be the case with the M370X, because this Mac is the first to use a Strato GPU.
 
Just got dispatch confirmation and a tracking number.
 

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ahhh i am truly jealous. Still no confirmation on mine and I ordered on the Tuesday. did you go for the dGPU? also did you upgrade anything else?
 
muffinman3679 said:
can someone correct me if i'm wrong, but this time next year the retina 15 inch will have had the iris pro 5200 from 2013-2016, same graphics chip 3 years running?
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I'm usually the last person to defend these big companies but the big issue is with Intel and not so much Apple.

AMD doesn't really have anything that competes with Intel on the high end of the consumer processor market, so Intel has just been hanging back (no real reason for them to be aggressive because they're only competing with themselves).

Apple can't upgrade something if there's nothing to upgrade to.
 
shoehornhands said:
I'm usually the last person to defend these big companies but the big issue is with Intel and not so much Apple.

AMD doesn't really have anything that competes with Intel on the high end of the consumer processor market, so Intel has just been hanging back (no real reason for them to be aggressive because they're only competing with themselves).

Apple can't upgrade something if there's nothing to upgrade to.
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And this is why competition is so important, - while I like Intel as a company, I have no doubt that we'd be seeing even bigger innovations if AMD (and Apple eventually, maybe) was a true competitor.
 
MBHockey said:
This guy is testing the R9 too:

http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/36u07m/retina_macbook_pro_2015_15_gpu_benchmark/
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I can't read too much out of these benchmarks to be honest. I would like to see some benchmarks done on the same platform. E.g. the 850M on Windows compubench results are all around 0.7-2x the scores of m370x (which would make the Maxwell appear around 1.5x faster). Then again, 850M on windows seems to be around 3.4x times faster in the facial recognition benchmark than the Windows benchmark of 750M on windows; while m370x is 3x faster than the Mac benchmark of 750M, which would bring it much closer to 850M...

I am surprised that nobody was able to run some graphical benchmarks on Windows yet :( It seems that there are machines out there in people's hands since more then 24 hours
 
leman said:
Cuda-Z doesn't work with AMD GPUs. It gets is data from CUDA, which only knows Nvidia GPUs.

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Yeah, I guess not everybody is a total GPU geek :)
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I know what you're saying though. I want a decent gaming laptop as much as anything else and I want to know if this fits the bill
 
fat jez said:
I guess if you have a brand new Mac, you're busy setting it up, not installing Windows to benchmark it :)
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I don't know you guys, but the first thing I would do is compare the compiling times of my projects with my old macbook (2009) to reassure me the expensive update was *really* worth it.

The second thing, it would be installing Witcher 3 to see if it runs :p
 
Im going on walk about to see if I can get my hands on one. If so, Ill have every benchmark on Windows and OS X accounted for today. If it disappoints, Ill return it.
 
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