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Let me peer into my magic 8 ball ;-) Seriously though, I bought the retina iPad 3 and six months later the 4 came out. Ugh! Almost seems like they're putting the iPad Airs on a two-year cycle now though, since it didn't get an update this year. I'd guess next fall Sept/Oct.

The big question is whether or not they'll hold the Pencil capability only on the "Pro" models or make it available for everyone. I'm pretty sure I'll keep my Pro through next year since the screen size is gorgeous for drawing at home, but I'd leap on next year's Air as well if it would also support the Pencil.

Lol. Well shoot. But I would agree, if it gets pencil support I'll grab it ASAP. If not, I'll stick with the 2.
 
I like that sleeve a lot, but can't help but think it's useless with the smart cover and silicone back on.
 
Issues I see are for $99 Apple should've made it metal to match the iPP instead of plastic, it's too long for many shoulder/messenger bags, short ~4 day battery life, lacks eraser end and functional button(s).

Apple didn't get to be the richest company in the world by selling you a 1.0 product with every feature you could want. Pencil 3.0 will be shorter, longer life, aluminum, with a button or touch sensor, Find My Pencil app, etc.
 
Apple didn't get to be the richest company in the world by selling you a 1.0 product with every feature you could want. Pencil 3.0 will be shorter, longer life, aluminum, with a button or touch sensor, Find My Pencil app, etc.

Pencil 4.0 probably do my work for me
 
Apple didn't get to be the richest company in the world by selling you a 1.0 product with every feature you could want. Pencil 3.0 will be shorter, longer life, aluminum, with a button or touch sensor, Find My Pencil app, etc.

Good point. Baby steps. What was I thinking with customer instead of business mentality.
 
Apple didn't get to be the richest company in the world by selling you a 1.0 product with every feature you could want. Pencil 3.0 will be shorter, longer life, aluminum, with a button or touch sensor, Find My Pencil app, etc.

Yep. Just the reality. They have years of features in the pipeline.

This year we saw it with the iPhone 6s. Live Photos and Force Touch were well within their ability last year.
 
Let me peer into my magic 8 ball ;-) Seriously though, I bought the retina iPad 3 and six months later the 4 came out. Ugh! Almost seems like they're putting the iPad Airs on a two-year cycle now though, since it didn't get an update this year. I'd guess next fall Sept/Oct.

The big question is whether or not they'll hold the Pencil capability only on the "Pro" models or make it available for everyone. I'm pretty sure I'll keep my Pro through next year since the screen size is gorgeous for drawing at home, but I'd leap on next year's Air as well if it would also support the Pencil.

They will almost certainly bring pencil to iPad Air 3. They can't make it much thinner, and speed only isn't worth upgrading. Adding pencil will drive people to upgrade who otherwise would stick with iPad Air/air 2. Plus it'll sell pencils which will make apple more money. And it will encourage developers to being more apps optimised for pencil - iPad pro only volumes may be too low to really support developers investing a lot
 
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Here's my sole complaint so far: It's nice while using it, its awkward when you're not.

It's a slick little pen with no means of securing to the iPad Pro (which, admittedly, I don't mind). However, I can't find a great way to carry it with me. It's just slightly too long to comfortably fit in my pocket (and I worry about breaking the tip when I sit), and this morning it slid stealthily out of my jacket pocket. When I'm at my desk, it sits still on the flat surface or even along the tip row of the smart keyboard, but when I'm on the go, I haven't quite figured it out.

A clip would have been nice, but that really messes with the aesthetics. Plus, have you ever used a pen with a clip you really like and don't fear will wear or break over time?

Overall, I really like it. And I feel really luck to have mine. Once it's more widely available, I may see about picking up another (if two or more can pair) to keep one in the office and one in my crumpler messenger where i stow the pro when I'm on the move.

Here's what i use to carry around my writing and drawing tools. Apple Pencil is probably replacing the orange LAMY fountain pen (don't actually use that one much).

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Yeah that tip (and lack of replacements beyond the one you get with it) is what concerns me. Wondering if I can find an old pen cap lying around the house to use on it. That is if I ever get the Pencil.
 
Just picked up a pencil today. Decided to drop by the store and the first shipment had arrived. 3 in total. Now, if only they would get a Space Gray 128 in so I could use the pencil.;)
 
Here's my sole complaint so far: It's nice while using it, its awkward when you're not.

It's a slick little pen with no means of securing to the iPad Pro (which, admittedly, I don't mind). However, I can't find a great way to carry it with me. It's just slightly too long to comfortably fit in my pocket (and I worry about breaking the tip when I sit), and this morning it slid stealthily out of my jacket pocket. When I'm at my desk, it sits still on the flat surface or even along the tip row of the smart keyboard, but when I'm on the go, I haven't quite figured it out.


What's wrong with using this?

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They will almost certainly bring pencil to iPad Air 3. They can't make it much thinner, and speed only isn't worth upgrading. Adding pencil will drive people to upgrade who otherwise would stick with iPad Air/air 2. Plus it'll sell pencils which will make apple more money. And it will encourage developers to being more apps optimised for pencil - iPad pro only volumes may be too low to really support developers investing a lot

So you think they will include the pencil & forced touch on the Air 3? I feel like forced touch will come next, and I think they will do that and leave the pencil out as it will be enough of a move by Apple standards (give them a little, and hold out a lot).
 
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So you think they will include the pencil & forced touch on the Air 3? I feel like forced touch will come next, and I think they will do that and leave the pencil out as it will be enough of a move by Apple standards (give them a little, and hold out a lot).

Not convinced force touch will come to iPad, Apple may keep it as a phone thing. Such a large screen may be difficult to measure force accurately across the whole surface, or there may be issues with pressing too hard in the centre? Or they'll do both?

And I think pencil is a bigger sales pount than force touch
 
I'm surprised they didn't add a magnet in the pencil that would attach to the same magnets in the iPad that the smart covers do. That would seem like an easy no brainer thing to add.
 
I'm surprised they didn't add a magnet in the pencil that would attach to the same magnets in the iPad that the smart covers do. That would seem like an easy no brainer thing to add.

They have to save something for Apple Pencil 2.
 
My 13 year old daughter wants one of these BADLY! I was really not interested in the iPad pro until going to the apple store the other day with her. She immediately picked up the pen and was just enthralled by it.
 
Do people really think Apple made the Pencil plastic so they could sell you an aluminum one two years later? If that's the case why don't all their products start out as plastic?

I'm surprised they didn't add a magnet in the pencil that would attach to the same magnets in the iPad that the smart covers do. That would seem like an easy no brainer thing to add.

It's hard to tell but it looks like the Pencil is actually a bit thicker than the iPP. Even still I wouldn't trust that the pencil would stay attached.
 
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Do people really think Apple made the Pencil plastic so they could sell you an aluminum one two years later? If that's the case why don't all their products start out as plastic?



It's hard to tell but it looks like the Pencil is actually a bit thicker than the iPP. Even still I wouldn't trust that the pencil would stay attached.

The pencil is thicker based on my quick comparison. It's crazy how thin of a device the iPP is considering how large it is...
 
Cap hasn't come off by mistake yet. Not hard to pull off, but attached with a magnet.

My concern with the loop is that there isn't anything to "catch" and keep it from sliding out. It's a slick plastic.
and the lighting plug look thicker then normal hard to put it in the iPad pro but ok to put to the adapter.
 
The feel and user experience is very nice and inline with what I expect from Apple. Perhaps an afterthought would have led to a better way to portage the pencil. I'm using a Mission Workshop R8 Field Pack with a folio pouch that the iPad Pro just barely fits into and the smart keyboard will slide into the back compartment and lastly the pencil lives in the fold above the KB. Some entrepreneur would be wise to create a nice case to contain the pencil, the extra tip, and the charge adapter and do it in a way that gives good protection, security for the small bits, and a way to attach it cleverly here or there..
 
My impressions after 3 days with the Pencil is that Apple's beaten everything except the Cintiq, and even in that case they're trading blows which is incredible (Apple wins on parallax and latency, Cintiq still has the only digitizer with perfect linearity).

The Pencil name makes perfect sense considering how well it simulates a real pencil drawing experience. The low latency and the fact that it actually registers the input at the contact point with the screen make the experience eerily realistic. The Pencil is the ONLY digitizer pen doing this level of contact accuracy right now, Cintiq included.

I'll leave it there for now; I'm not ready to really "review" the Pencil yet until the Procreate devs fix the prediction/correction bug that's messing up start of stroke pressure data.

Not convinced force touch will come to iPad, Apple may keep it as a phone thing. Such a large screen may be difficult to measure force accurately across the whole surface, or there may be issues with pressing too hard in the centre? Or they'll do both?

And I think pencil is a bigger sales pount than force touch

I'm not expecting it either. Adds weight and doesn't seem like an idea that was intended for a screen of this size which can flex. Also doesn't seem very useful on the iPad compared to the Pencil, which already has pressure sensitivity. I wouldn't want it implemented at the cost of extra weight.
 
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