Right then why are you here?
Get off and you will not need to worry about it.
Sorry to hear they got cought but way to many for this kind of crime.
Got to be more subtle about things like this mostly with Apple the do go ballistics on this stuff.
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Three Foxconn Employees Charged With Leaking iPad 2 Design
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Right then why are you here?
Get off and you will not need to worry about it.
Sorry to hear they got cought but way to many for this kind of crime.
Got to be more subtle about things like this mostly with Apple the do go ballistics on this stuff.
I have 2 friends in Venezuela that have been arrested, one for for 8 years prior the being charged to 30 years ON TOP of the 8 years he already has, and another one for 3 years already without a trial yet. Both politically related against Hugo Chavez.
As people age they do get more paranoid I figure companies like Apple are the same.
Seen the last stuff from Trump dam he is one out of it dude. I hope he is taking his medication.
Right, but you don't know if the leaked design and specs. are only going to the case manufacturers.. Think about what ODM's can do learning the iPad2 designs ahead of time.
You must be like me in the States but unlike me have not travel. I wonder if you will be singing the same tune as jobs dry up here and you can't get anything but the hamburger joint.
Like to be that fly on the wall when people finally get it, ROFL. Glad I don't have to worry about it.
But don't get me wrong I am all for punishing poor people they do deserve what they get. (sarcasm just in case)
They can't do anything with it. People lets get this strait Apple is not making anything special. All the parts are of the shelve its true they make it look nice but at the end of the day the hardware is no big deal, its more of the OS and the rest of the experience. Its like religion the words make no sense but the feeling people get been around others that think almost exactly like them that is what makes them come back.
You must be like me in the States but unlike me have not travel. I wonder if you will be singing the same tune as jobs dry up here and you can't get anything but the hamburger joint.
Like to be that fly on the wall when people finally get it, ROFL. Glad I don't have to worry about it.
But don't get me wrong I am all for punishing poor people they do deserve what they get. (sarcasm just in case)
Moral of the story is, either don't do it, or don't get caught!
These people had jobs, and in their jobs they had access to information that they were told to keep secret. Well, I have a job, sometimes I'm told that something is secret, some stuff is generally not for people outside the company, so I keep my mouth shut. I don't tell people, and I most definitely don't sell information that I would get paid for. These people did. Since Foxconn has several hundred thousand employees, and three were caught only, I'll assume there are quite a few people working there doing very similar jobs without adding some money to their salary be committing crimes.
It was obvious that information was leaked, because people started making accessories before they could have legally seen the iPad 2. At that point you do some detective work. At my place of work, we caught someone stealing a while ago. No "informers", just detective work. That's what happens when you commit a crime, sometimes you get caught. And what exactly do you mean by "informers"? If you see someone removing stuff, and next day you hear that stuff has been stolen from your company, do you tell the police? Rule of thumb: If anyone says "don't be a snitch", that is the first one who will rat on you if it helps them.
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They solved the case fast. Probably lots of informers working at Foxcon. Or, they have no clue and merely arrested three hapless expendable workers in order to scare the rest.
Any Foxcon story is a good story.
Any Foxcon story is a good story.
You know its very sad that these people who work for literally peanuts, and in miserable working conditions, probably have families with mouths to feed, have a completely different life than anyone reading this forum could ever imagine, they don't have iphones and ipads, access to the internet, or even live in democratic society where they might receive a fair trial for this clear transgression.
A couple of creepy case manufactures waved some amount of money in their faces and it more than likely was not a lot, but it must have seemed like a fortune to them, for turning over the schematics of a product they probably had little idea of how ravenous a market was waiting for any and all details and demanded accessories immediately at the time of the launch of this super secret Apple product they would never be able to afford.
What they did was not right and I do not condone it, but everyone of you that bought one of these cases, probably on Ebay, that were available on the day of the launch plays a role in the scenario.
As most of us know these cases are cheaply made and have no quality control, basically cheap crap.
In my opinion want to know why the manufactures were not arrested and thrown in jail for bribing these employes. I think they probably were rich enough off the profits of their crappy cheap cases to bribe the local police.
Sometimes we have to look behind the initial headlines and think about the human elements and what led people to make the decisions they made.
I really hate reading posts from people who literally no concept of what it might be to be in another persons shoes especially in another culture and country. Your experience is nothing like their experience and making self righteous statements about what's right and wrong and what your job is like and how you keep secrets, do your job, blah blah, is just plain ignorant.
A couple of creepy case manufactures waved some amount of money in their faces and it more than likely was not a lot, but it must have seemed like a fortune to them, for turning over the schematics of a product they probably had little idea of how ravenous a market was waiting for any and all details and demanded accessories immediately at the time of the launch of this super secret Apple product they would never be able to afford.
What they did was not right and I do not condone it, but everyone of you that bought one of these cases, probably on Ebay, that were available on the day of the launch plays a role in the scenario.
As most of us know these cases are cheaply made and have no quality control, basically cheap crap.
In my opinion want to know why the manufactures were not arrested and thrown in jail for bribing these employes. I think they probably were rich enough off the profits of their crappy cheap cases to bribe the local police.
Sometimes we have to look behind the initial headlines and think about the human elements and what led people to make the decisions they made.
I really hate reading posts from people who literally no concept of what it might be to be in another persons shoes especially in another culture and country. Your experience is nothing like their experience and making self righteous statements about what's right and wrong and what your job is like and how you keep secrets, do your job, blah blah, is just plain ignorant.
They leaked the designs of a consumer product. Big who cares. It's not like they leaked nuclear submarine schematics. Personally I just think they should be dismissed. Anything more is heavy-handed. Can't believe how many people are advocating the death penalty here - it's an iPad - in the grand scheme of things you probably couldn't leak a design more trivial, or of less importance. Business shouldn't stand in the way of basic human rights.
It's not that they shouldn't be punished, it's the concern that the punishment in China will be excessive for this nonviolent crime.
And the US still incarcerates more people than China.
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Sure boss, because good paying jobs are so plentiful and easy to get I should just walk off my job whenever I get the urge...
Any more words of wisdom for the masses Copernicus?
Shouldn't leaking trade secrets be some sort of civil contract violation, rather than a crime you can be arrested and jailed for?
You'd think the right thing to do would be to fire and fine them. What is putting them in jail going to accomplish?
You'd think the right thing to do would be to fire and fine them. What is putting them in jail going to accomplish?
Not my point. I was reffering to working conditions in China and that these poor workers just do not quit thier jobs if they do not like them and get another job in another factory.
If you're referring to the Brooklyn Bridge, you can't sell it. It's MINE.
My great-great-great-great grandpappy brought it off some chap name George Parker. I also own Ulysses S Grant's Tomb if anyone is interested in taking it off my hands. Yep, G5-pappy brought it off Parker as well.No need to imprison dead people.
Back during the imperial age, the whole clan would have been executed. Maybe in a few more centuries, they'll fit the punishment to the crime.
They can't do anything with it. People lets get this strait Apple is not making anything special. All the parts are of the shelve its true they make it look nice but at the end of the day the hardware is no big deal, its more of the OS and the rest of the experience. Its like religion the words make no sense but the feeling people get been around others that think almost exactly like them that is what makes them come back.
haha true, their hardware are not special. But if you know what the real deal is made of, it can save you a lot of R&D to build a quality knock-off.
Oh yeah!?!?! Very honor-bound I'm sure! For a country that is number 1 in the world for software piracy and other forms of theft of intellectual property they have a very strange way of showing it.
On the other hand, Apple knew when they decided to manufacture their products in China, what they were bargaining for! These people sometimes live in extreme poverty and need to find any means of supporting their family. For Apple it is just money but for these people it is their lives and their family's life. It just goes to show how companies like Apple make their money. To us North Americans they paint a very pretty picture of themselves but underneath the surface they are corporate savages who are willing to strike down any human being that gets in their way to make a buck.
No, leaking trade secrets is a crime. What confuses many people is that trade secrets are usually kept secret by contracts; for example my employment contracts forbids me to tell people about future plans of my company, so telling the world would indeed be a breach of contract. But that contract is really what keeps the information secret: If I was allowed to tell you, then it wouldn't be a trade secret anymore. And therefore telling you would be a breach of trade secret and a crime.
On the other hand, people think they are allowed to leak trade secrets because they didn't sign an NDA: If it is a trade secret, then you are not allowed to leak it (for example if someone who _was_ under NDA told you about it). But if a company is careless, then things that were supposed to be trade secrets may stop to be trade secrets.
If anyone doesn't like their job, they can quit, they can stick it out, or they can try to improve things. What they cannot do is commit crimes. And who says that these crimes where committed because someone was unhappy with their job? More likely just a case of greed.
Let's be honest, its not like they would legally buy the software
And they are also allowing poor north Americans to get thier hands on knock off LV bags, Rolex watches etc etc....
I am sure everyone on these forums is much more honour bound, Torrent anyone?
Apple is on a win win here, cheap labour, max profit, and simple corportate crimes end up being criminal offences in china, one way to keep fear in the work force and your secrets safe.