Lol, look at all this crap. You pay out the ass for the Macbook, way more than it's worth, then on top of that you also get to buy all these dongles and adapters at their own inflated price! What a joke.
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Thunderbolt 3/USB-C Adapters, Cables, and Hubs for New MacBook Pro
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This, exactly.
Honestly, Dell had a similar problem when putting a camera in to their 13" XPS line... that's why it ended up in such a weird spot.
I mean, I know the lids are thin and all, but so are phones. You'd think we'd be able to get even a SLIGHT upgrade, considering.
The iphones have ARM chip, not a intel processor.. so no tb3 and tb3 on a phone is totally pointless. You sound like an id**t with zero knowledge like most ppl here.
The thing is, they don't. MBA is non-retina. The MB is underpowered and 12" is simply too small for many "Pro users". I've been a MBA user for many many years and LOVE the MBAs for that very reason as they're the perfect compromise between power and portability. But, I will not buy an Apple computer without retina, anymore.
Hence, the MBP is the new MBA. And yes, I do need it portable since I travel a lot and work in the field, but at the same time do need SOME power.
So many dongles... what do those pictures remind me of?
That's right....
Funny how things change.
Yep. Apple is going in reverse. Sorry Steve.
Remember how many people whine about switching from the 30 pin to thunderbolt? Praise the lord, we all survived. We also survived the change to the iTunes icon....that was another thread that claimed the sky was falling.
I just tried out one of these new Pro's at my local Apple shop. One thing I've never seen mentioned is that because they made the new 13 inch smaller, it's not possible to rest my palms on while using the keyboard. The edge of the laptop hits the middle of my palm and it's not comfortable. I'm 6'5" so my hands are a bit larger than average but not giant. This is the surprising dealbreaker for me. Not the ports or the price.
Legacy ports eventually die on the PC (e.g. PS/2 ports, serial ports). Even on the PC side it is finally becoming rarer to see built-in VGA ports on notebooks. Remember, this is a MacBook Pro thread, so notebook trends count, not desktop motherboard trends. It will take longer for USB-A to go away, but some Ultrabooks have done away with them (e.g. HP Spectre).
The irony is that you can do that now with a dock, except for the macsafe.
But, unless "Pros" are not at their desks and have in the field customers, they would have to take the dock, so they are prepared for whatever a customer has to connect.
Since very few people upgrade all working peripherals (because they still work) the long term view would be to gradually phase things out/in, instead of telling us that 25% less in volume and 17% less in weight (Too lazy to look up what it was) or whatever even matters.
Are people really getting that weak that a few ounces of carrying an MBP brings them to their knees, calling for OSHA?
Of all the complaints, I have never seen any that say the MBPs are too heavy.
Whatever they save in weight is now taken up by the weight and volume of the dongles.LOL.
That's exactly what I did. But you better hurry..I got the 2015 13" 3.1GHz, 16GB, 1TB refurb, and now they're sold out. I knew there would be a run on the 2015s. The last great MacBook Pro!
Yeah, I remember when all the PCs we bought in still had a 5/14 floppy well after no one used them, same with the 3 1/2 inch floppy, parallel ports, serial ports etc etc. EVERYONE bought and paid for them even though they had no use for them and never used them.
Buy a hub, then it has ALL the ports you will ever need, USB, USB3, Thunderbolt, VGA, Ethernet etc etc etc.
With that GPU I'd imagine you are pushing CPU and RAM a bit too, is thermal staying in check for you? I'm interested in exploring more with VR, my company has dedicated systems and various headsets (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, and phone based Gear VR. HoloLens on the AR front) but I'd like my own dedicated hardware. I'm hoping I can replace my Mac Pro soon with a new offering from Apple and it will drive the Vive and Rift as I don't want to have an otherwise idle Windows machine invading my space. eGPU could be a fallback for me if they don't release a new Mac Pro by early spring. I had looked briefly at the Bizon Box, is that what you are using?
If you travel a lot (i.e. by plane) and already carry a good amount of equipment (e.g. camera gear), you'd know that even as little as one pound makes a HUGE difference.
With all due respect, some of us want the more powerful 28W-45W CPUs but don't want to lug around 6lb behemoths.
When it's built into the box, it's one more thing you carry around 100% of the time. If I don't need it, I don't want to lug it around.
So basically your solution is to throw even more money at Apple. You have to understand this is not an acceptable solution for most. And I use an external mouse, but it's plugged in my keyboard, so I don't need to plug into my macbook. I'm not even sure why you are questioning this? Are you somehow suggesting that I'm making this up for argument's sake? I really don't get what you are trying to say here.
Printing wirelessly is not an option where I work, and there's nothing I can realistically do about it. I don't really care either. Nobody cares actually, because everybody wants to plug-in an ethernet cable first thing anyway.
The problem with one dock is that I have to buy the dock, and I don't see why this is necessary. And maybe, in the future we'll have one port that does everything, but honestly, at this point it does exactly nothing.
Is it really so hard to understand that other people may have different needs? What would you have lost if Apple had included, say, a type A USB and an HDMI port on the MBP?
I try to think positive. I am ready to suffer a bit just to be on the bleeding edge. I can buy new adapters if needed, if the cost is reasonable. And I like USB-C as an idea.
But... If I have to use a number of clumsy adapters, it really makes my life more difficult. I do not claim to be the median user, but what I need daily or weekly:
Also, the lack of MagSafe is a bit of a problem. It has saved my computer once or twice. And why is the 3.5 mm jack there? I use it, as well, but it is still the easiest to replace.
Yes, most things will hopefully be USB-C within a few years. However, my computer is my most important tool, and it needs to be interfaced to the surrounding world. I would certainly have appreciated a bit more gradual change (for example swapping the TB2s for USB-Cs).
But... If I have to use a number of clumsy adapters, it really makes my life more difficult. I do not claim to be the median user, but what I need daily or weekly:
- 2 x USB3 for external HDDs
- 2 x USB2 for all sorts of gadgets (programming adapters, serial line adapters, proprietary equipment, presentation remote controller, CD/DVD drive, photo printer)
- Ethernet (corporate network, embedded devices)
- VGA (customers may have arcane projectors)
- HDMI (sometimes the projectors are not that arcane)
- SDXC reader (videos, cards form all sorts of embedded systems)
Also, the lack of MagSafe is a bit of a problem. It has saved my computer once or twice. And why is the 3.5 mm jack there? I use it, as well, but it is still the easiest to replace.
Yes, most things will hopefully be USB-C within a few years. However, my computer is my most important tool, and it needs to be interfaced to the surrounding world. I would certainly have appreciated a bit more gradual change (for example swapping the TB2s for USB-Cs).
And cheap USB-C accessories can do some nice damage.
USB-C cables are playing Russian Roulette with your laptop
New Standard Makes Sure That USB-C Cable Won't Fry Your Device
Some if those hubs shown in the article look like they will easily damage the port on the macbook pro over time.
USB-C cables are playing Russian Roulette with your laptop
New Standard Makes Sure That USB-C Cable Won't Fry Your Device
Some if those hubs shown in the article look like they will easily damage the port on the macbook pro over time.
How many iPhone owners actually connect their iPhone to a Mac ever? I would wager a small minority.
At this point, it charges my MacBook and with the right cables lets me connect to anything the older ports can. Plus, with a $10 monoprice USB-C cable I'll be able to use Target Disk Mode to migrate from my MacBook to the MacBook Pro. With an active cable, you'll be able to do the same between two MacBook Pros at twice the speed of Thunderbolt 2.
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Buy from reputable sources. Even Amazon is requiring resellers to adhere to USB-C standards.
Read majority of posts. You will find your argument to be invalid. People are actually using USB-A peripherals, and so demanding for the port. Not the other way around like you are imagining it to be.
Two ports that can be whatever I want them to be? If I never used USB A and HDMI I've have two redundant ports I'd never used... while I may but have needed two more ports of something else.
People do understand that other people may have different needs. But at the same time people could also just be the tiniest bit flexible. It's really not THAT hard, is it?