TiBook Update?

[ftaok]

TiBook will stay the same size (thickness)

You gotta look at who you're talking about here. We're talking Steve Jobs. There is no way that he's gonna approve thickening the TiBook case to fit in a SuperDrive. He's gonna wait until the SuperDrive is slimmed down to fit before he puts it in the TiBook. I think that we're more like months away from that, rather than years. There was a rumor that Pioneer was demo'ing a slim SuperDrive during MWTokyo.

 

[G4scott]

Apple did hot swappable dirves in the PowerBook G3's, and I didn't see any problems with them.

Maybe Apple will make at TiBook like the current ones, with a DVD/CDRW, 800mhz G4, etc., and make it their mid portable.

Then they could make a TiBook, or some other notebook that's just a little thicker, with the same 15" screen, a higher resolution, up to 1ghz G4's, and hot swappable drive bays.

Just remember, nothing is impossible. Apple can put hot-swappable bays in a semi-thin laptop if they tried.

 

[mcrain]

Re: Mcrain ...

Originally posted by ftaok
There is no anti-competitive shananigans here at all. Apple bundles iDVD with their own hardware. Since Apple does not sell external DVD burners, they shouldn't have to add support for such devices. Here's an analogy: Is Apple guilty of anti-trust behavior because they do not bundle Windows software for iPods? Of course not, so why should Apple be expect to support hardware that they do not sell?

Actually, your analogy isn't the problem. Apple can choose who it markets its products to without smelling like a potential lawsuit, however, when it does things that supress other companies from selling their products, that's when I start thinking that someone will sue.

By the way, if the anti-trust suit against M$ is based on M$'s attempts to make other companies software not work, that's different from anything I had read. (Granted, I don't really care much about the suit).

However, it was my understanding that what M$ did was bundle the IE software and make it so that it was always on the desktop, thus making a consumer unlikely to purchase Netscape. That is what I thought the Court held was anti-competitive.

So, the analogy isn't that apple isn't making ipods compatible with PC's, but rather, that apple bundles iPhoto with the mac, thus making it highly unlikely that a consumer will buy HP's new photo managment software.

Don't get me wrong on this whole thread. I'm not saying Apple IS anti-competitive, but that as an attorney, I could draft a complaint that would be a major hassle for Apple (assuming I worked for the Feds-which I don't).

The world isn't black and white, it's green, and M$ has the most green right now, so its the target du jour.

 

[ftaok]

Re: Re: Mcrain ...

Originally posted by mcrain


Actually, your analogy isn't the problem. Apple can choose who it markets its products to without smelling like a potential lawsuit, however, when it does things that supress other companies from selling their products, that's when I start thinking that someone will sue.

By the way, if the anti-trust suit against M$ is based on M$'s attempts to make other companies software not work, that's different from anything I had read. (Granted, I don't really care much about the suit).

However, it was my understanding that what M$ did was bundle the IE software and make it so that it was always on the desktop, thus making a consumer unlikely to purchase Netscape. That is what I thought the Court held was anti-competitive.

So, the analogy isn't that apple isn't making ipods compatible with PC's, but rather, that apple bundles iPhoto with the mac, thus making it highly unlikely that a consumer will buy HP's new photo managment software.

Don't get me wrong on this whole thread. I'm not saying Apple IS anti-competitive, but that as an attorney, I could draft a complaint that would be a major hassle for Apple (assuming I worked for the Feds-which I don't).

The world isn't black and white, it's green, and M$ has the most green right now, so its the target du jour.

The details of the Microsoft anti-trust suit are humoungous. My example was only a small part of it, as was the IE/desktop debacle. Microsoft was guilty of tons of stuff.

As far as Apple bundling programs that are comparable to what others are trying to sell (i.e. iPhoto vs. HP Photo Software), I think that Apple deliberately keeps their apps less than "full-featured" to keep vendors happy. Besides, it's not Apple's job to not compete with other's peoples software. I'll use an analogy from the old System 7 days. Back then, the menu bar didn't have a clock on it. You had to use a shareware program called Super Clock. Then somewhere along the line, Apple incorporated it into the system software for free. Sounds like they killed a market there (granted, it's only a small shareware program).

If Apple worried about pi$$ing off all software vendors, we wouldn't have great programs like iTunes, iPhoto, etc. that are much better and easier to use than the competition.

I think that you'd be able to cobble up a case against Apple, but I'm just saying that Apple isn't nearly as bad when it comes to abusing power as Microsoft is/was.

edit -- Oh, I almost forgot about the iDVD stuff. If you buy an external DVD burner, the vendor should include software for it. It should have a DVD authoring application at a minimum. Whether the vendor creates their own software or licenses it, that's their business. Apple shouldn't have to include support for other people's stuff.

 

[New Guy]

With regards to anti-competitive practices, if Apple was to claim that iTunes and iDVD were so embedded in the OS that removing one would essentially break it then I would consider that wrong. But by making a better app Apple is promoting competition.

 

[monkeydo_jb]

PC user looking to take the plunge.

I'm waiting to jump....

😕

I am a network administrator and life long PC user. However, the more and more I hear about OS X the more I want it. I dispise WIntel and don't know why I've just started moving away from windoze by learning RedHat Linux. I am looking hard for a laptop and have narrowed it down to a TiBook. You guys are experts and I was wondering how easy it is to switch to the (dark or light, whatever) side? Also, are Macs really that much better or just something different? Please gimme some input.

Oh yeah, I am going to wait on a TiBook till the next revision, anyway.

 

[mcrain]

Re: PC user looking to take the plunge.

Originally posted by monkeydo_jb
I'm waiting to jump....
I am a network administrator and life long PC user. However, the more and more I hear about OS X the more I want it. I dispise WIntel and don't know why I've just started moving away from windoze by learning RedHat Linux. I am looking hard for a laptop and have narrowed it down to a TiBook. You guys are experts and I was wondering how easy it is to switch to the (dark or light, whatever) side? Also, are Macs really that much better or just something different? Please gimme some input.

Oh yeah, I am going to wait on a TiBook till the next revision, anyway.

I'm waiting to switch also, so I have very minimal experience with OSX, but every time I've used it, I've found nearly everything to be easy. Some stuff is a little weird, or hard to find (if you've never used it before), but for the most part, I was up to speed after a very short period of time.

I anticpate very little "new user" headaches with the mac when I get it. (I'm also waiting for the new Tibook.)

As for better or just different, I'll let the experts reply.

 

[gopher]

Re: PC user looking to take the plunge.

Originally posted by monkeydo_jb
I'm waiting to jump....

😕

I am a network administrator and life long PC user. However, the more and more I hear about OS X the more I want it. I dispise WIntel and don't know why I've just started moving away from windoze by learning RedHat Linux. I am looking hard for a laptop and have narrowed it down to a TiBook. You guys are experts and I was wondering how easy it is to switch to the (dark or light, whatever) side? Also, are Macs really that much better or just something different? Please gimme some input.

Oh yeah, I am going to wait on a TiBook till the next revision, anyway.

Switching is very easy. Remember Microsoft copied a lot of Apple's operating system and GUI (Graphical User Interface) design to make their operating system resembling Apple's because they realized a GUI is much easier for most computer users to use. What you'll find that is amazing with Mac OS X, is that the network ports are closed unless you setup a root account, which is a good thing as it prevents hackers from entering your system, and yet it uses NetBSD networking for ethernet based networking. Mac OS X is a true multithreaded Unix operating system allowing it to run many applications concurrently assuming your RAM is at least 192MB, and your hard disk free space is at least 2 GB free. If you have that, you should be in good shape. The thing that will impress you most is that most peripherals as long as they support Mac OS X, will simply plug and play. At worse you have to install a driver, but then it sees the device without rebooting. You have desktop CD burning, meaning a blank CD appears on the desktop and you just drag the files you want to burn to that CD. When you want to burn those files, you just select the eject menuitem.

For more info on available Mac OS X resources, visit http://www.macmaps.com/macx.html and of course http://www.apple.com/macosx