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Watch your phones people, Apple is currently calling developers who tried but failed to purchase tickets this morning. They are offering tickets!

So far two of the three engineers in my company have been called.
 
I don't understand how anyone would spend $720 a year on a telephone, I'd use that money for something better. But hey, what do I know. Priorities right?

Exactly. Priorities. I use my phone a lot during the day. An event like this is once a year.
 
Wait, San Francisco is a "hellhole", but Las Vegas is a swell place!!??

I suppose if one's idea of a nice city is one that resembles Disneyland on acid...you're right.

Don't go to SF...not enough neon...:rolleyes:


Apple needs to do it in Vegas along with the porn convention
 
Wait, San Francisco is a "hellhole", but Las Vegas is a swell place!!??

I suppose if one's idea of a nice city is one that resembles Disneyland on acid...you're right.

Don't go to SF...not enough neon...:rolleyes:

I just got back from my first trip to Vegas a couple weeks ago and I can agree with this.
 
I don't understand how anyone would spend $720 a year on a telephone, I'd use that money for something better. But hey, what do I know. Priorities right?

Yes, we all like different things, I do not understand the obsession so many people have with spending almost every penny they have, new cars make little sense unless one is extremely well off, five dollar movie rentals, coffees everyday are too costly and the list goes on. As long as people are not blowing all their money and whining how they have nothing left all the time (I know people like that!!!) it is up to each of us how we wish to spend our money.

I have bought stuff in the past that I think is stupid now, (sold it off) I got older and my priorities changed. We are always going to think something is a waste of money if it was us.
 
First time attendee here... I just can't seem to get my ticket activated.

Is this normal?

I am having an issue as well...

We are unable to process your request.

Please go back to the previous page, or quit your browser and try your request again.
 
First time attendee here... I just can't seem to get my ticket activated.

Is this normal?

Same here - been seeing it everywhere on Twitter and the dev forums. I'm not sure why they haven't fixed this before reaching out for second chance offers, but I hope it doesn't leave anyone that did get a ticket out in the cold.
 
Can't activate ticket

I am unable to activate my ticket either...it gives me the error:

We are unable to process your request.
Please go back to the previous page, or quit your browser and try your request again.

Has anyone actually activated their ticket yet?
 
I have no idea what your talking about. Im not promoting that website actually I think I will pull that right now. Nor am I lying. Last year I went... and yes, I did talk to Apple developers, however there are loads of developers "filling in" on topics they are not really competent to discuss. I attended 4 different sessions and basically got half an answer to.

You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who couldn't get a job at Apple so you show up at the conference with a big chip on your shoulder and try to do everything you can to trip up the developers so you can walk away with a fleeting moment of satisfaction?

Just asking.
 
I must have dreamt that they sold out in 14 seconds.

It will be seconds next year. And milliseconds the year after.

What then?

Before it's announced, you get an email saying that you missed out on a ticket to WWDC, because Siri looked into the future and you didn't make it???​
 
Apple will Lilly take the road of per-order to registered apple developers. Own a portal and you can order before the booth opens. After all its actually a developers conference and not the general public spectacle it seems to have become. Hard to imagine splitting it. Perhaps an single large unavailing event, followed by the WWDC hands on which would be on a seperate ticket.
 
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So let me understand what you are saying - it is unfair that two people from the same business can't go to the same event at the expense of someone else getting a ticket. Does Apple owe you both a ticket to the event. If you are both on the same dev team, your biz partner should have been able to get yours as well.

I just love the attitude prevalent today that you are more special than someone else and deserve to part of the group of 5,000 - which is a fairly small number - more than other people. I understand that it is disappointing. However it's not like you are entitled to it.

You're reading too much into my statement... The point I'm making is that Apple needs to grow their developer support to match their developer demand. If I'm willing and able to spend ~$5000 per person to go to a conference that I feel will have a positive benefit on the value of my business and my ability to better provide for my customers, then yes, I'm going to be disappointed that I had a 3 minute window in which to be able to have that opportunity and now have to wait another year before it will happen again.

Entitlement is when you expect something for nothing. That's not the case here...

We want Apple to continue to grow, innovate and proliferate and we want to continue to be a part of that ourselves (as do hundreds of thousands of other Apple advocates and professionals like us). But Apple needs to understand that they need to scale the "special sauce" that's made them great thus far without watering down the quality of their products and services.

If anything actually upsets me, it's that the writing was on the wall last year when WWDC sold out in under 2 hours and I've hoped they'd have made adjustments to their plans for this year instead of waiting for a flash-shutout like what happened yesterday.

There's nothing saying Apple needs to have their core engineering teams on the road 3-4 times a year instead of doing what they do best back in Cupertino. But it's not selfish or unreasonable to want them to perhaps build out a better training and engineering support competency that can provide the direct-contact support that we've come to expect at WWDC.
 
Congrats to the people that will profit from the newly opened black market for WWDC 2013 tickets.
 
Which is extremely reasonable for a 5-day conference with one-on-ones with engineers. Look at other comparables out there with much higher costs.

People who are paying $1,599 are doing so to learn skills and network, which is MUCH MORE valuable than $1,599.

I don't think he's downing the value, but its amazing that apple made 5,000 x $1,599 in under two minutes.
 
We got one ticket for 2 developers. We will both attend and have to pick and choose which sessions who gets to go to while the other guys "watches" the vid sessions after they post them back at that hotel.

Those aren't pillows!!!!
 
Seriously. We've sent developers the last two years, This year, no-one gets to go, despite being there as the page went live. Given international latency (on something happening this fast it matters), I'd *love* to know the percentage of people who were successful who are in the US.

Apple, wise up - it's time to start acting like a company that cares about its developers and run MORE THAN ONE event, in out of the way places like, oh I don't know, Europe? And Asia? Make it a condition that you can only buy a ticket to one of them - in your region is fine as long as you ship all the same people from Apple to each event.

Making the videos available real-time is helpful, but it hardly replaces being able to ask an Apple engineer "how do I make this perform better" or "this should work, but it doesn't - why?".

Apple, you're all grown up these days and you really need to start thinking differently about more than just your product portfolio.

I love that seemingly reasonably intelligent people keep making this unreasonable request.

Apple employs engineers to design their products not run conventions. Just hiring engineers so you could have more conferences or bigger conferences is a horrible idea. The value of the conference is working with the engineers who work on the products.

If they double their engineering staff they don't just double the staff on all their projects. So these expanded conferences will lead to a significantly watered down and inferior experience. Given the fact the tickets are essentially free for the value people get out of them (I know people go 1600 dollars omg but for people using these the price versus value makes the price virtually free) they can't just cut the price in half.

The conference is constricted because of the number of project engineers apple has. There is no chance apple makes money on this. Apple sees it as an investment in their developers. If you count the engineers one week for show and one week prep then the actual cost of the show itself it is not making money for apple directly.

I don't know if some of you realize you are asking Apple to hire engineers just to help do support at a couple conferences each year? First of all what kind of quality engineer is thst going to be? What do they do for the other forty weeks of the year.

I agree setting up a lottery is the best way to go, just hiring random engineers to create random extra conferences is the worst way to go.
 
There's another variable...repeat the tech sessions.

I know Apple engineers have to get back to work...but along with the rejected options of bigger venue and hire more staff, there's also the possibility of repeating the tech sessions without all the hoopla. People could watch the announcements on replay and, for a lower price, attend "second round" of these in-person interactions. Just a thought.
 
WWDC Approach

The issue I see is not the number of tickets per venue, the number of venues, or any approach to match those up with developers. The issue is just basic numbers. There are way more developers today than they can ever support with places and people.

The obvious answer is technology. Web cast the entire thing to those who cannot either afford to get tickets, get away, or just get lucky. Provide daily downloads of slide and video for every single session. That way all get the same basic info the same week, one way or another.

It you want to take it another level, find a way to accept session specific questions from web cast viewers as well. Today Apple is showing a bottom line profit of over 1 billion a month, so I think they can afford to pay some web cast costs and include all the fold.
 
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