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San Francisco is expanding their convention space

With the future Apple main campus and present infinite loop 1 they can double up or more in Moscone and seeing 10k+ for a dev conference is more than enough.

Any more and it becomes a MacWorld which are a complete waste of time outside of the insider parties and business deals.
 
Wow... that's insane. One could argue it may have been due to Apple giving everyone a heads up that tickets would soon be for sale but... still wow.

I think it would be wonderful for Apple to have multiple buildings, or even multiple shows. WWDC is great, but a lot of us elsewhere in the world would love to attend.

Or maybe I just miss MacWorld in New York... :)
 
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And their server handled it. People can say Apple knows nothing of "cloud" and servers but they can handle this type of load much better than Google ever has with Google I/O.

No one's ever questioned Apple's ability to sell things.
 
My business partner and I were accessing the login page simultaneously with auto-fill enabled at 1:00 sharp. He was able to get in and order his ticket but I kept getting bounced to a generic error page that would redirect me back to the main WWDC Tickets page and kept getting the same thing every time I'd click through. Now despite the fact that he got a ticket, we're both pissed because the plan was for us to be able to go to this event together and be able to network/learn in parallel.

Apple needs to:
a) Staff-up more engineers for events like this,
b) Have multiple WWDC events throughout the year,
c) Have a better ecomm system for processing these requests.

We've been doing iOS dev for almost 3 years now and my business runs completely on Apple technology. It's extremely disenfranchising to run into a situation like this and significantly reduces our enthusiasm as proud Apple advocates both in our personal and professional lives.

:(

So let me understand what you are saying - it is unfair that two people from the same business can't go to the same event at the expense of someone else getting a ticket. Does Apple owe you both a ticket to the event. If you are both on the same dev team, your biz partner should have been able to get yours as well.

I just love the attitude prevalent today that you are more special than someone else and deserve to part of the group of 5,000 - which is a fairly small number - more than other people. I understand that it is disappointing. However it's not like you are entitled to it.
 
And their server handled it. People can say Apple knows nothing of "cloud" and servers but they can handle this type of load much better than Google ever has with Google I/O.

They handled 5000 sales in two minutes. I'm trying to spin that into "impressive" but I can't be bothered.

Great that the servers didn't crash under the load of 5000 people! Apple sure is an impressive cloud company, Google beware! :p:rolleyes::cool:
 
So let me understand what you are saying - it is unfair that two people from the same business can't go to the same event at the expense of someone else getting a ticket. Does Apple owe you both a ticket to the event. If you are both on the same dev team, your biz partner should have been able to get yours as well.

I just love the attitude prevalent today that you are more special than someone else and deserve to part of the group of 5,000 - which is a fairly small number - more than other people. I understand that it is disappointing. However it's not like you are entitled to it.

seriously.
supply and demand, how does that work?
 
Apple is making the videos available DURING the conference, this year.

So, the real reason to have a ticket is if you need to meet with apple engineers.

WWDC is both a conference, and an opportunity to go to labs and get help with your product.

The conference side of it is taken care of by the videos-- which you can watch all over the world.

The lab side of it doesn't really translate into a tour or multiple conferences, etc..... and to be honest, with 1,000 apple engineers for 5,000 conference attendees, it's not like they can just double the size of the venue and scale up.

The core-data-icloud guy is THE core data icloud guy. He can't be cloned, so, while Apple could maybe send 2,000 engineers to the conference, the second thousand engineers would not be as impactful as the first.

And I don't see Apple spending 4 months out of the year, flying 1,000 engineers to New York, London, and Singapore to make it a roadshow... WWDC itself is disruptive enough.

Plus, they have done mini-conferences in a dozen or so different US cities, in the past, which apparently weren't very well attended.

So, Apple's solution is releasing the conference videos and I think it's a great choice.
 
I get mine every year, it's no surprise that they move quickly. Steve Jobs created enough hype around this event to last for years to come.

This year the guys I meet there have to the person, shared a certain muted feeling of ambivalence. The ship is clearly sailing on a different course.
 
Supply and demand says it's time to double the price of these tickets. :cool:

I've been to numerous WWDCs and the cost of the ticket is a small part of the overall cost. Last one I went to was in 2008, though, because once they started making videos available, I was happier paying $700 for the videos (Which are now free).

Frankly, San Francisco is a hellhole. If they had it in Las Vegas or a nice city, I might consider it, but really, I'd much rather watch videos in the comfort of my own home rather than run all over moscone for a week while jet lagged and not getting enough sleep.
 
How to get rid of the tickets faster

Best way to hype anything is announce it 24 hours in advance.
Was planning on WWDC since Jan. was waiting online and just trying to Finnish the ticket purchase, got an error refreshed and it was sold out.
After 30 years of dicking with Apple's changing policies anytime it suits them, I'm done with any Apple Conference and their gouging fees.
I'm not renewing my Dev Status that's for sure!!!!:mad:
 
Frankly, San Francisco is a hellhole. If they had it in Las Vegas or a nice city, I might consider it ...

You have no idea what you are talking about. Right, thousands of people are paying $2000 a month to live in a studio apartment in a "hellhole." Relatedly, San Francisco is also where the most tech jobs in the country are being created right now. A great number of Apple employees actually live in San Francisco, even though the headquarters is in Cupertino, and they bus in and out of the city everyday. Because it's nice to live here, and this is where the tech scene is currently, period. There is no more logical place to hold this conference.
 
Frankly, San Francisco is a hellhole. If they had it in Las Vegas or a nice city, I might consider it,

Wait, San Francisco is a "hellhole", but Las Vegas is a swell place!!??

I suppose if one's idea of a nice city is one that resembles Disneyland on acid...you're right.

Don't go to SF...not enough neon...:rolleyes:
 
I wonder what percentage of the lucky devs that got a ticket are iOS only devs?

My worry is that the traditional Mac developers are missing out and being replaced by iOS people who are just interested in the next "become a million via an iOS game in app purchases"

Does Apple need to split WWDC in to two parts?
-3 days of Mac
-The keynote
-3 days of iOS

People can buy tickets to one, the other or both.
 
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