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Tidal Owner Jay Z Has Removed All of His Albums From Apple Music [Updated]

I have literally never heard of Tidal until I read this post. Kinda says something about that service. Just another reason not to listen to Jay Z I guess!
 
blumpy said:
No, what I'm saying is that CD mastering is converted from source mix into 16 bit after processing. Unlike AAC which during the conversion from 24bit to AAC the extended dynamics is preserved.

Also, very few professional recordings are done at 96k and virtually none are 192k. A mix on an analog desk might be printed as 96k 24-bit or 192k but very few multi-tracks are recorded at this resolution (film aside).

There's also no benefit in bit depth beyond 24 bit. 32-bit float multi-tracks are purely to avoid harsh digital overloads during internal processing of a DAW. There is no sound quality benefit as A/D converters cannot fully utilize the full range of 24-bit, unlike 16-bit.
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This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. "CD mastering is converted from source mix into 16 bit after processing. Unlike AAC which during the conversion from 24bit to AAC the extended dynamics is preserved.".

Seriously I can't argue with illogic like that. It's seriously troll-worthy. Let's take up the argument on a Hi-Fi forum and see who comes off better off. You're seriously trying to say to say 256 kbps AAC with Apple marketing can be better than uncompressed CD. Bizarre.
 
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Tidal CAN be a viable service. The first thing they need to do is get rid of their current leadership. Second is they need to broaden their catalog. I tried it and it's really not bad. Again, the catalog was too narrow at the time I was listening.
 
MH01 said:
So......given his music is still on Apple Music , is MR going to remove this fake news? Or just use it as click bait and take a credibility hit?

Or am I missing something ?
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On iTunes Store != on Apple Music.
This is probably the only difference.
 
Analog Kid said:
Especially when that same person just finished arguing that if the service didn't provide some of the music they did like, they'd be ok with it because they could listen to something else.

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So the argument seems to be explicitly saying "not having some music I like isn't enough reason to change how I get my music, but having some music I don't like and an audience for that music is a reason to disregard a service I might otherwise use."

I'd hope there are other reasons for the choices people make and that they're just expressing themselves poorly, or maybe having made a largely arbitrary decision are looking for justifications wherever they can be found, but it is very weird on the face of it.
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You're putting way too much thought into my responses, which were just quick responses to the other persons claims.
But, to humor you, I didn't say if a service didn't have the music I like that I'd listen to something else and be happy. I was specific that if a song or artist was pulled (which was the premise of the argument), that I would listen to the other songs or artists I do like.

Second, Apple music is unimportant to me because I tried it briefly, and don't like it. I don't like the interface and to be honest, I don't like iTunes so the farther away I am from it, the happier I am. I get EVERYTHING I need from Google Play Music and Spotify. I could really just do with GPM, but I like the Spotify playlists so I keep paying for it.
 
simonmet said:
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. "CD mastering is converted from source mix into 16 bit after processing. Unlike AAC which during the conversion from 24bit to AAC the extended dynamics is preserved.".

Seriously I can't argue with illogic like that. It's seriously troll-worthy. Let's take up the argument on a Hi-Fi forum and see who comes off better off. You're seriously trying to say to say 256 kbps AAC with Apple marketing can be better than uncompressed CD. Bizarre.
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No he's saying that compression from 24bit master may not sound like compression from 16bit CD, not that AAC "sounds" better than CD.
 
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Screw Tidal. Their introduction video was as tone deaf as the Kylie Jenner Pepsi commercial. A bunch of millionaires drinking champagne and patting themselves on the back for finding a way to help them make more money. Who wouldn't want to give them $10-20 a month for that privilege.

 
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Investors to Jay Z:
"We can't get any more subscribers, you better do something fast"

Jay Z to Sprint:
"We need subscribers, you can get them to us fast, I promise you exclusive content for a deal$"

Sprint to Jay Z:
"Now that we gave you a deal, where are those exclusive artists? We ain't talking about rappers you picked up on a corner in Queens no one heard of"... "Get us exclusives or this deal is over"

.....Jay Z quickly yanks content from iTunes

Jay Z to Sprint:
"There you go, exclusive content from A major artist"

Sprint to Jay Z:
"We don't want your crap, we meant someone relevant Today.... get us your wife's content or it's over"

Jay Z to Beyonce:
"Baby, I need your music exclusively on Tidal or it's dead"

Beyonce to Jay Z:
"Hell no, I told you that app was a stupid idea. You better go put on my track from 2011 and listen again, "Who run the world? Girls!".... "Now get your b*#ch azz in there and change the babies diapers, I make more money than you and wear the pants in this house".... "leave iTunes, you a damn fool".
 
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adamjackson said:
I listen to Jay-Z at least once a week. Doesn't affect me as I own the music. This is the problem with renting music or really, leasing. Once you stop paying or Apple feels like it or the Artist has a conflict of interest, the listener suffers.

IT's still far better to buy the music you love.
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Agreed. I also already own his albums and subscribe to Apple Music. Lately I have indeed noticed some random songs that I've downloaded no longer being available. Big flaw in streaming services.
 
Relentless Power said:
Yet, somebody else who acts as an intercessor for Jobs. Interesting you're able to portray his futuristic ideations that never existed to begin with.
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B amazed at my ability to speak with the great beyond and comprehend the babbling non sense that spews forth from your mouth.
Edit: er your keyboard
 
JayZ's career is literally dead with this move. I liked JayZ but I'm not switching my music streaming service for him or any other artist. So....
 
Latest news says he also pulled his music from Spotify.
Perhaps he doesn't want people listening to it anymore? :p

edit: source
 
Why is this on macrumors?
I think this is the kind of non news that shouldn't be posted here. But then again almost 400 forum comments.
 
OneMike said:
Believe that nonsense if you want. Carry on.
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I want to support black owned businesses but this move doesn't help his cause. He needs to stop complaining and start competing on the merits of Tidal. I do think there is a market for HiFi music. He just needs to streamline his business to become profitable. Nothing wrong with catering to the higher end of the market. Apple does that. There is nothing saying that Jay-Z can't either.

Jay-Z is actually a really nice guy in person and he looks better than when on TV. I used to work in the same building where he has his office. I left with a really good impression of him.
 
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