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don't fall for the "64-bit myth"

mk_in_mke said:
The most important thing for me is the 64 bits processing...

but: what will 64 bits really bring to me? ...


It's the most important thing for you, yet you don't know what it does? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


First of all, the new 64-bit addressing won't help you since you only have 4 GiB of RAM. The main thing that 64-bit addressing does is allow a *single* program to use more than 4 GiB.

Second, 10.4's 64-bit implementation is a partial implementation that is mainly available to command line terminal apps. No Cocoa/Carbon apps, no GUI apps.

For an application like Photoshop or video to use 64-bit addressing, it would have to be rewritten as a "client-server" app, with a 32-bit GUI talking to a separate 64-bit work piece. Ain't gonna happen, IMO.

The need for 64-bit on the desktop isn't that great, and the need for a lame terminal-only implementation is almost zero on the desktop.

The supercomputer clusters will like 10.4's 64-bit addressing, though....
 
Media Exchange

rtdgoldfish said:
Anyone see a way to order it on CD-ROM?? My poor iBook G3 doesn't have a DVD drive. Gonna get a DVD copy for my Mini though.

They have a media exchange program for $9.95. Download the

order form here.
 
Family Pack?

Hi there. Does anyone know from purchasing Panther if there is any benefit to buying the Family Pack? I mean, in addition to the wonderful feeling you get from being honest. Will the single pack NOT allow me to install it on more than one Mac (Panther does allow it.)

I don't mean to be controversial, but I don't have lots of money to blow and I'm wondering if it is worth it (I only have 2 macs.)

Thanks,
Joe
 
SweetFeet said:
This better not be the only announcements in April - FCPHD5 and hopefully the new G5s on Monday at NAB. I've got $4G burning a hole in my pocket.

Four GILLION dollars?!

Hello, Dr. Evil!

Wanna buy me a PowerMac Quad G5 and a 12" PowerBook? :D
 
Yvan256 said:
In my opinion it does indeed absolutely really means nothing else new for about 3 weeks:D

It's common knowledge that FCPHD5 will be in Vegas at NAB on Monday.
 
Hah...

"Choose from a collection of stunning new desktop pictures, including a vibrant new default desktop created exclusively for Mac OS X Tiger users."

Happy, MR Whiners?
 
Ape it

chaos86 said:
based on the new look of apple.com we may have a new version of the (much hated) brushed metal look coming with tiger.

I personaly like the brushed metal look. I even use Ape manager and Metalifizer to apply it to all my apps. Probably wont work initially with Tiger though :( I wonder how many other apps we'll have to wait for upgrades too before they work with Tiger?
 
lem0nayde said:
Hi there. Does anyone know from purchasing Panther if there is any benefit to buying the Family Pack? I mean, in addition to the wonderful feeling you get from being honest. Will the single pack NOT allow me to install it on more than one Mac (Panther does allow it.)

I don't mean to be controversial, but I don't have lots of money to blow and I'm wondering if it is worth it (I only have 2 macs.)

Thanks,
Joe

Single license: 129$US
Family pack: 199$US

Even with only two computers, it's cheaper to go that route.
 
Great news... but STUPID APPLE!! They changed the GPU specs required for Core Video!! 9800 XT if I remember correctly is that special 256mb Radeon Pro that you could only get if you ordered directly from apple. Here I am bought a 9800 Pro 128mb specifically because it was listed as supporting Core Video and now it doesn't!! Argh!! Other than that I am very excited.
 
oldMac said:
I called the Apple store - I'm waiting on a Mac Mini order that I placed last week - to see if I was going to get Tiger (since I just bought and my order hasn't shipped.)

The girl on the phone told me that my Mini would probably not ship with Tiger, but that I will be able to purchase the "Mac OS X Tiger - up to date" program for $9.95.

I hope this is correct, since my order hasn't shipped. Though, if you listen to the phone message regarding such things, it says that those who purchase on or after April 12th are eligible for the discounted "up to date" program.

In the past, I believe they've extended this back 15 or 30 days if you bother them about it.


I hope to hell they extend it back a bit. I ordered a new mac mini in late March and was given an April 15th ship date, so I didn't figure I'd have any trouble qualifying. Well, it shipped YESTERDAY! I still don't have it of course, but I don't think it technically qualifies for the up-to-date program. We'll see what I can get them to do for me..
 
Tiger Family Pack EDU Discount?

Went to the Apple store site and found Tiger w/ EDU discount. I've got a G5 and an iBook (both running Panther) and will probably be getting a Mac Mini plus another iBook or another Mac Mini. Bottom line, I'll have 4 Macs pretty soon two of which might come with Tiger but two that don't. I want to upgrade and I guess the best way would be the Family pack with 5 licenses. Apple has the single user for $69 but couldn't find the Family pack with EDU discount. Anyone know if you can purchase the Family pack with EDU discount? Thanks
 
kaltsasa said:
I wonder if the Mac mini will get a slight video upgrade then, since the Core Image compatable cards are listed as such.

Core Image-capable graphics cards include:

* ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
* ATI Radeon 9600 XT, 9800 XT, X800 XT
* nVidia GeForce FX Go 5200
* nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
* nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL, 6800 GT DDL

And I would hope that when Tiger is shipping on a brand new Mac, that brand new Mac would support the OS's technology. Even if not. Mac mini here I come, the ol G4 300 is lagging.

Hmmm, no ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 mentioned - I could have sworn I saw it there before.
 
Well, wouldn't you know it...

I will be in the US on business for 13 days from Sunday April 17 for ...yep, that's right, I will be leaving on Friday April 29th, 11.00 am from Kennedy airport to be exact, and in mid-air when TIGER is out - will miss the launch in the US and back home in Japan.

I hope Apple has some event from midnight Thursday then I could load up my carry-on with a nice new TIGER box and flash it while smiling my way through customs...

Anyway, good news no matter when I will actually get my hands on it...
 
new backround

for all the people who were asking in previous threads. tiger does have a new backround pictures, you see it in the spotlight page it looks pretty nice.

i am quite excited. time to go preorder
 
Here's a quandry

Tiger requires a minimum of 256MB of memory and is designed to run on any Macintosh computer with a PowerPC G5, G4, or G3 processor and built-in FireWire.

The slot load iMac 350 G3 just had USB, but the PowerMac 350 G3 had firewire and was based on the same motherboard and had the same G3 chip.

Wonder if they will base the install on a ROM/ID check?
 
Archmagination said:
Great news... but STUPID APPLE!! They changed the GPU specs required for Core Video!! 9800 XT if I remember correctly is that special 256mb Radeon Pro that you could only get if you ordered directly from apple. Here I am bought a 9800 Pro 128mb specifically because it was listed as supporting Core Video and now it doesn't!! Argh!! Other than that I am very excited.
It'll work, it's the same card.
Basically any "DX9 capable" card can do all the new stuff.
 
No iLife '05 with Tiger ??

Take a look at the Tech Specs for Tiger:-
http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/

Listed in included software is only iTunes, there is no other iLife applications listed.

Does that mean we have to buy iLife '05 seperately? Will we be able to install it from our original installations discs that came with our Macs? (I have the Rev D PowerBook and iLife '05 is on it's disc)
 
jjarmoc said:
I hope to hell they extend it back a bit. I ordered a new mac mini in late March and was given an April 15th ship date, so I didn't figure I'd have any trouble qualifying. Well, it shipped YESTERDAY! I still don't have it of course, but I don't think it technically qualifies for the up-to-date program. We'll see what I can get them to do for me..

I'm in the same boat as you. I ordered a PB on Friday (8/4), it was supposed to ship today, but I just received an email saying that the shipping date has changed to 20/04 :eek: Does this mean I should expect to get Tiger?
 
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