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Tiger Early Start Kit - for Developers
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i think apple has an NDA with its devs so they can't reveal things about tiger to whomever
and it sucks that students don't get previews
and it sucks that students don't get previews
eric_n_dfw
macrumors 68000
Really, this is just an ad for becoming a Select level developer. Their site has a link for existing select and premier developers to get the DVD-ROM when it's available.
(Select membership has always been $500 and Select members always have gotten preview OS X discs)
(Select membership has always been $500 and Select members always have gotten preview OS X discs)
well I hope this means select members will start getting builds. Im a select member and the only tiger build ive received is the initial dev release from the WWDC. nothing is on the adc site.. if your already an adc member nothing is different here...
student developers get the OS
ok, contrary to popular opinion in this thread, you do get OS upgrades with a student dev membership, plus a once in a lifetime 20% hardware discount. I know this because that's how I got panther. I actually ordered a copy at the student price, thinking I wasn't getting the OS for free with the developer membership, and then I ended up getting 2 copies. now, the student dev. version doesn't come in a box, just in a fold up cd holder thing, but hey, it's still the next OS version for only 99 bucks, plus all the other stuff you get. definitely worth it if you're a student.
ok, contrary to popular opinion in this thread, you do get OS upgrades with a student dev membership, plus a once in a lifetime 20% hardware discount. I know this because that's how I got panther. I actually ordered a copy at the student price, thinking I wasn't getting the OS for free with the developer membership, and then I ended up getting 2 copies. now, the student dev. version doesn't come in a box, just in a fold up cd holder thing, but hey, it's still the next OS version for only 99 bucks, plus all the other stuff you get. definitely worth it if you're a student.
swmooretiger said:
You get the OS releases, the final GMs, but not the preview builds. The reason they don't give them to the students is due to the actions of some past students. Basically a few people were leaking and brought a black mark against the program.
The student program is still a great deal though. For $99/year you get any of the OS releases, the monthly mailings, a HW discount (roughly 20% depending on what you buy, the $1k ibook is naturally discounted less then a dual 2.5 due to margins), and a chance to go to WWDC on apple. Any one of those items pays for the membership.
This is more comparable to an MSDN subscription: http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/subscribers , than MS Visual Studio. Compare to 1200 for the cheapest subscription that comes with development tools. Although my cash situation as a student is a bit more limited, than that of a professional. I would think it would be worth it to see what CoreImage can really do, though.dootbran said:
iMeowbot
macrumors G3
Yeah, but it screws up their marketing otherwise. If too much prerelease stuff gets public, then works in progress (which are inevitably buggy) can give a bad impression of what the final product will be like. Cool features might not be good enough for final release and not make the cut, and leave people disappointed. Leaks also take the lead time advantage away from those who actually paid to get those prerelease builds. And the cool stuff that makes it to GM loses some of that wow factor in Stevenotes if everyone already knows what to expect 🙂x86isslow said:
Someone else already mentioned that leaks were a problem with those accounts. I suppose they figure that the higher price for the select and premier accounts will filter out people who aren't willing to take the NDA seriously, but every minor seed still seems to get mention on the rumor sites 🙄
inkswamp
macrumors 68030
Smells like an earlier than expected release
I have to throw my 2-cents in with those saying this indicates an early first-half of 2005 release rather than later. I don't think developer copies would be made available unless everything was basically in place and solid enough to work with and frankly, it looked pretty damn solid when Jobs first did his public demo of it.
Of course, I'm just basically pulling this all out of my arse, but if memory serves, developer releases emerged with previous OS X releases approximately 2-3 months prior to the OS hitting the shelves. Let's assume 3 months... mid-January. That sounds about right.
There's this cutesy aphorism in software development and computer work: under-promise and over-deliver. Basically, keep expectations low and make sure you go beyond that. IMO, Apple is doing that with Tiger's release date. I would be surprised if it wasn't out by mid-January.
I have to throw my 2-cents in with those saying this indicates an early first-half of 2005 release rather than later. I don't think developer copies would be made available unless everything was basically in place and solid enough to work with and frankly, it looked pretty damn solid when Jobs first did his public demo of it.
Of course, I'm just basically pulling this all out of my arse, but if memory serves, developer releases emerged with previous OS X releases approximately 2-3 months prior to the OS hitting the shelves. Let's assume 3 months... mid-January. That sounds about right.
There's this cutesy aphorism in software development and computer work: under-promise and over-deliver. Basically, keep expectations low and make sure you go beyond that. IMO, Apple is doing that with Tiger's release date. I would be surprised if it wasn't out by mid-January.
broken_keyboard
macrumors 65816
Hmm... I let my ADC membership expire because there were no Tiger seeds, perhaps now time to renew.
dmarkman said:
No, the normal select membership doesn't include a hardware discount the first year.
Does Tiger have Java 1.5?
I've heard that Java 1.5 will be available with Tiger. Can anyone confirm that the pre-release has 1.5?
I've heard that Java 1.5 will be available with Tiger. Can anyone confirm that the pre-release has 1.5?
