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Tiger Early Start Kit - for Developers
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well, now it doesJLL said:
see http://developer.apple.com/membership/select.html
"ADC Hardware Purchase Program
Select members receive a significant discount on one (1) development system each membership year."
I must say, tiger kit is smart marketing move
I saw many posts that people want to buy that kit
but I doubt that the very some people would subscribe to the select membership
that's like to say
I will by a rose
instead of
I will buy a flower and shrub of any species of the genus Rosa, of
which there are many species, mostly found in the northern
hemisphere
Those in the US who wish to see the developer discounts can do so by going to the ADC Hardware Purchase Program page and then clicking on the link the the Store (which changes, so I can't link it here). You can't buy anything, but you can see the deals.dmarkman said:
Given that a Select membership lets you get a dual-2.5 for US$2399 (Select memberships didn't used to let you get a discount, barring special offers, until the second year), anyone buying a dual-2.5 (or any other package with a discount of $500 or more, or ~$370 if you add in the fact that you'll get Tiger for free when released) would be well advised to consider a Select membership....
m a y a said:
Apple Developer Connection (ADC) "Select" members get access to download the intermediate releases of Tiger. There are also sometimes OS developer releases on CD-ROM included with the "Select" mailing and you normally get the GM (Gold Master) on CD-ROM, though sometimes a month or two after the official release, though it is available as a Disk Image to download from ADC.
This is quite frankly not really a special offer, rather advertising what Select membership provides. Normally when you renew Select membership for a second year you start getting a 20% hardware discount for 1 system (iMac, laptop or PM+monitor). Last year's promo was much better as you got the hardware discount during the first year; you didn't have to wait a year to renew before you got it. Add in the bonus hardware discount that Select members got given half way through the year and I'm looking at easily recovering the $500 I paid last year. Add the fact that I'll buy the system at UK prices -20% and the FX rate last year to USD was very nice, it will work out quite nicely for me.
But you're looking at a $1,000 outlay to get a 20% discount in 2006 at the moment, so not so good!
[Edit: looks like you get the hardware discount in the first year now... ]
Sanjay
Where? I just became a Select member a few weeks ago, and I've gotten Tiger disks as part of my first monthly shipment, but all I see for online download is the documentation....ssamani said:
jeffmc425 said:Oh c'mon. For us developers, this is great. We get to see some of the new APIs in the OS early, and get our projects in order to ship on, or near release date. This is not meant for the casual user, or for the "i gotta have all the latest and greatest" crowd.
PlaceofDis said:
m a y a said:First its not a bad deals it rather good if you are a developer. For $500 USD you get some extras and you also get the GM version.
To a developer this price is peanuts.
Good show on the OS front Apple.
steveh said:
People who went to WWDC got it.
Devolpers should get it, but Apple has already given the latest Copy too all the companies who need to be ahead.
You think Adobe, and Microsoft don't get copies of the new releases minutes after they come out of devolpment?
Yeah they do.
And microsoft has the same system, if your a devolper you can get a copy of the newest version of Longhorn, they have been doing it for god knows how long.
As someone who have worked with a few of these mysterious 'developers' (please, its sarcasm, duh) getting your application to work in a new Mac Os, isn't very hard, and fine turning your app for each release is just dumb until the GM anyway, things change internally. API's sometimes get scraped and what may work for one version may not the next, after you have coded it for the last one for 5 hours.
The devolper program is great, no doubt you get tools to use other people dream of using. And you get the inside track, but if anyone signed up for the devolper program just to get a buggy OS, they need to be smacked right in the face.
You gotta be kidding me. I'm a troll?JGowan said:
Don't make Kitty Scared.
--MrMacMan
Apple eases Mac OS X seed update process claims:jsw said:
Later this month, the company is expected to begin seeding newer builds of Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger through the ADC.
Maybe on October 26th, among other things. Also happens to be the target shipping date for my iMac G5.
didnt read the whole thread, dont get mad if its been asked.
does the new kit include the new ichat av and video/audio functionalities? ie. 4way vid...10 way aud?
Does it run smoother then WWDC version?
any info?
does the new kit include the new ichat av and video/audio functionalities? ie. 4way vid...10 way aud?
Does it run smoother then WWDC version?
any info?
You don't seem to know what you're talking about...
You get a lot more than just the Developers Release of the latest software when you have an ADC subscription. You also get significant price breaks for hardware.
This is not a "buggy prerelease" for the public, it is a developers release to assist them with their development of their products. This should not even be a news story as it doesn't apply to non-developers and it makes it so that the underinformed can make ignorant remarks about it and Apple.
Besides this is for developers that are selling their products and want them to be ready for release at the time that Panther is released to the public.
This is also the way that they have done it for some time now. I wonder who these "developers" that you know are.
I'm sure that there are some companies that Apple has relationships with that do, most likely, have early access to their releases of the OS, they probably have details worked into their contracts to cover this sort of thing. But, to assume that MS has access would imply that their products, like VPC, would work with the OS and the hardware when they release it, which is doesn't. The same situation held true with Symantec. They wouldn't release updates to products like NUM for nearly a year after the latest OS releases came from Apple. You seem to have made too many assumptions about things that you clearly do not understand like you think you do.
MrMacman said:"Because at Apple, we know you have $500 dollars for a partially buggy prerelease of an OS, right?"
You get a lot more than just the Developers Release of the latest software when you have an ADC subscription. You also get significant price breaks for hardware.
This is not a "buggy prerelease" for the public, it is a developers release to assist them with their development of their products. This should not even be a news story as it doesn't apply to non-developers and it makes it so that the underinformed can make ignorant remarks about it and Apple.
Besides this is for developers that are selling their products and want them to be ready for release at the time that Panther is released to the public.
This is also the way that they have done it for some time now. I wonder who these "developers" that you know are.
I'm sure that there are some companies that Apple has relationships with that do, most likely, have early access to their releases of the OS, they probably have details worked into their contracts to cover this sort of thing. But, to assume that MS has access would imply that their products, like VPC, would work with the OS and the hardware when they release it, which is doesn't. The same situation held true with Symantec. They wouldn't release updates to products like NUM for nearly a year after the latest OS releases came from Apple. You seem to have made too many assumptions about things that you clearly do not understand like you think you do.
I think the best way to answer this without violating any non-disclosure rules would be to say that it is quite certain that those with ADC Select and Premium memberships (and, as we all know by now, the Tiger Kit is just ADC Select plus a nifty cardboard box and DVD) will have access to the new iChat features well before the general public.Motha-Canuker said:
Download?
Very good, but is it available for download? I haven't seen anything that can go live yet.
AppleMatt said:
Very good, but is it available for download? I haven't seen anything that can go live yet.
stupid question
whats NDA? and why cant yall answer my questions without breaking it? is it like a contract or something you sign saying you cant talk about it?
whats NDA? and why cant yall answer my questions without breaking it? is it like a contract or something you sign saying you cant talk about it?
Warlock7 said:
Yeah of coarse I answered all of these points 3 hours before you posted this message.
I understand devolpers want to make sure their product works with the new release, I'm just saying if Apple *didn't* do this it would be quite stupid. Microsoft does it, and apple makes sure that major companies have the OS for their major products.
Microsoft had behind the scenes major problems they needed to hammer out for VPC, really big problems and apple was working with them to solve the problems, addressing two of them in actual revisions of the OS.
Sysmantec can bite me, There is almost no reasom for their crappy software.
Antivirus = useless
Norton = Easts, burns and wrecks hard drive
Firewall = Bloated and CPU intenseive firewall? what gives?
Oh, OK... Whatever you say, since you have the indside scoop...
I've never ran across anything that supports this particular claim as you've stated it. There was the wait for the release of XP SP2 before launch, but that has nothing to do with the Apple OS. There's also the delays that were supposedly due to the G5 architecture changes. Nothing about Apple making two OS changes to support VPC though. This is also a very questionable interpretation as the OS system requirement for VPC 7 is 10.2.8 and up...
As for your claims about Symantec, they were for quite some time, a fantastic developer for the Macintosh. Since the release of OS X, their quality has dropped off considerably and I do somewhat agree with you about the NUM situation. As for NAV, Virex seems to do a much better job, but both detect all sorts of things that get into your system. Java based trojans, VB based trojans as well as all Windows based viruses and worms. These don't affect the current Apple OS, but it's better to not inadvertently cause damage to others simply because of an apparently arrogant attitude.
Not adequately, sorry. Mysterious phantom developer friends don't answer anything.MrMacman said:
You'll have to support this claim while you're at it as it's the kind of thing that seems to come from those same mysterious phantom developer friends.
I've never ran across anything that supports this particular claim as you've stated it. There was the wait for the release of XP SP2 before launch, but that has nothing to do with the Apple OS. There's also the delays that were supposedly due to the G5 architecture changes. Nothing about Apple making two OS changes to support VPC though. This is also a very questionable interpretation as the OS system requirement for VPC 7 is 10.2.8 and up...As for your claims about Symantec, they were for quite some time, a fantastic developer for the Macintosh. Since the release of OS X, their quality has dropped off considerably and I do somewhat agree with you about the NUM situation. As for NAV, Virex seems to do a much better job, but both detect all sorts of things that get into your system. Java based trojans, VB based trojans as well as all Windows based viruses and worms. These don't affect the current Apple OS, but it's better to not inadvertently cause damage to others simply because of an apparently arrogant attitude.