Tiger Or iLife 05 In January?

[SiliconAddict]

iFinance already exists, so don't hold your breath for it. Anyway, i don' t think a finance app would fit into the iLife suite. It might become an add-on of the new Apple Works, though.

How so? Doesn’t everyone need to manage and track their money? What could be a more natural addition to iLife then something that helps you with your day to day finances. It feel odd because up til now iLife has dealt with multimedia. This would be a decided departure but not an unwelcome one IMHO.

 

[DavidLeblond]

How so? Doesn’t everyone need to manage and track their money? What could be a more natural addition to iLife then something that helps you with your day to day finances. It feel odd because up til now iLife has dealt with multimedia. This would be a decided departure but not an unwelcome one IMHO.

It would also not integrate very well with the rest of the suite though. Unless they throw in links to iMovie so you can make a video of yourself losing it when you find out how much you owe in taxes...

 

[mpw]

I'm hoping for a complete overhaul of AppleWorks. Call it iWorks and integrate it with iLife with it's new HomePae style app.

 

[kenaustus]

Sorry folks but it’s a pet peeve I have. People keep harping on PC users. You want them to switch? Get Apple to stop catering to high end computers only.

If you read some reviews you'll see the base iMac is considered CHEAPER than a Dell or Compact for a comparable computer.

Compare it to an iBook that a lot of people swear by and it's $200 more for larger screen, faster processor & FSB and a larger, faster HD.

It also got a 5 star rating from PC Mag.

There is not a thing wrong with IBM - it's an overloaded Windows (bloated because of backward compatibility) that Mac lovers are avoiding. Backward compatibility is also going to be a huge problem with Longhorn, which is why they are cutting features out that Apple will include in Tiger. Virus/worm problems also keep Mac users away form Windows. By the way, IBM had a better OS in their System 38 series back in the late 70s/early 80s than MS is managing today, and OS/2 was also a killer OS.

 

[ifjake]

iLife is more of an entertainment/leisure suite. finance is neither. i don't really like how this is going. i know iLife '05 will require tiger in order to take advantage of all the cool stuff they have engineered into tiger, and tiger seems like it will kinda need the new iLife in order for there to be something there to take advantage of all the cool new stuff. it's kinda annoying. maybe i'm wrong.

 

[DavidLeblond]

I'm hoping for a complete overhaul of AppleWorks. Call it iWorks and integrate it with iLife with it's new HomePae style app.

If they throw in a finance app, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

You hear that, Apple? Get to work!

 

[g4cubed]

As for the release of Tiger, it would be great, but not likely. iLife is more likely.
A finance app would be appreciated greatly.
But something drasticly needs to be done with .mac, starting with storage space for email and idisk. I liked the ease of use and that it was a native app (Apples own) but I won't renew if something isn't done.

 

[trebblekicked]

i'll be pretty surprised if tiger is released at mwsf, but happily at that. i never upgraded to panther, but probably will upgrade to tiger.

i feel like a sucker for picking up ilife and ilife '04. i use iphoto and itunes all the time, but one of those is free, and the other isn't enough to justify another $50. upgrade pricing would be nice. i don't see another app being added to the mix, either, but something like adding playlist abilities or some kind of presentation functionality to imovie/quicktime would be pretty useful.

 

[denm316]

I agree a finance would be nice but as someone else pointed out iLife is more of an entertainment/multimedia suite.

How about a second revision of the Airport Express, one with video out, just so you can display your iPhoto slide shows on your tv, so everyone doesnt need to stand around your mac.

 

[CubaTBird]

well

why would i buy ilife 05' if i could just wait for it to be included with tiger? or will not?

 

[dontmatter]

Now that is an idea !!! iLife for Windows , like iTunes is making PC users think Twice now about going Mac maybe iLife apps would push them that little bit more to buy a Mac.

if not, then the money Apple could make from PC users must be worth it .

Just a thought

A bit more of a taste of apple, sure. But if you can run the iLife suite, the office suite, and all software as soon as it comes out on windows, why buy an apple? I think the right strategy is to offer only a few other things, and only those that get major hype, like itunes. Then, there's a whole "and guess what else is like these on a mac?" idea. That would be my route.

 

[DavidLeblond]

How about a second revision of the Airport Express, one with video out, just so you can display your iPhoto slide shows on your tv, so everyone doesnt need to stand around your mac.

Or combine that with an earlier idea about iTunes for videos... an AirVideo would allow you to watched purchased videos on your TV...

Ok so maybe thats a little out there. If Apple did it though, I'd be impressed.

 

[DavidLeblond]

As far as the iLife for Windows goes, its not going to happen. Apple didn't release iTunes for Windows to give everyone a taste of Mac OS. They released it to sell more iPods. And from what I've heard, it worked.

Unless they're really hard-pressed to sell a ton of iSights to Windows users, I don't think we should expect more iLife apps to be ported.

 

[Windowlicker]

iLife 05 seems much more likely than Tiger in January. Maybe it'll include a new iApp? iFinance, maybe? Obviously this is completely unfounded speculation, but some kind of home finance app seems like the logical next step.

I know many people already stated that a finance app doesn't really fit in digital life style, so i'm not gonna point that out once more. but there's another point why this isn't a good product for Apple. And that is because these tax/finance apps all differ depending on the system the country where the app is used has for taxes and stuff. I don't remember Apple making any app that doesn't work universally, and don't think they would make a difference here.

 

[Josh]

I think they would come out close the the same time.

If tiger came out way before ilife 05, then tiger would not come with ilife 05, and I don't see that happening.

My guess: They come out at the same time.

 

[wdlove]

iLife 05 at MWSF - yes, why not.
Tiger at MWSF - no! They may give a release date for Tiger at the keynote, but sure no 'immediate availability'. Until now, each new version of OS X was released on a weekend (friday/saturday usually), and I don't think they'd change this for Tiger. It makes more buzz if people can line up at midnight in front of the stores to get Tiger, than just telling them at the shop they can go and buy it now outside (besides everyone would be leaving the keynote in that case asap anyway )

I'm also pretty confident that Steve will announce the actual date for release of Tiger during his Keynote at MWSF '05. iLife '05 sounds like a real possibility.

 

[Mord]

add annother vote for iweb an easy web design program

 

[melgross]

Don't forget that iLife can have Tiger specific features and hooks to 64 bit even if it comes out first. After all, it's not as though Apple doesn't know what would be available in Tiger.

That's the purpose of the developer's conference. To let them start working on their apps in advance so that when the new OS comes out, they will be ready shortly after.

A selling point for Tiger is that it will enhance the new iLife.

 

[sinisterdesign]

As far as the iLife for Windows goes, its not going to happen. Apple didn't release iTunes for Windows to give everyone a taste of Mac OS. They released it to sell more iPods.

no joke. the "everything-in-one-place, easy-to-use, leading-the-pack" multimedia aspect of iLife is the CORE of what it is to own a Mac. sure steve threw PC'ers a bone w/ iTunes b/c, as you said, it sold hardware. what hardware would Apple sell if they opened up iLife??!? that would be shooting themselves square in the foot.

iLife for Windows?? not gonna happen . iLife '05 in Jan? sure. i can see that and would prefer it to Tiger at the same time. Jaguar is doing me just fine for now. hammer out all those bugs and give me the cleanest, smoothest, most awesome upgrade to OSX so far and i'll gladly wait until mid '05.

 

[Porchland]

im guessing that iLife 05 will be released and we will get an expected date for Tiger, but not a release yet, and i would expect maybe one more update to Panther before Tiger ships...

My thoughts exactly. "The first half of 2005" is a pretty wide target, and Apple will have good marketing opportunities to kick things off right in early spring.

Plus, the January keynote will be pretty crowded with iLife updates and copious (and well earned) iPod self-congratulation, and I think we're probably going to see a 60 GB iPod that does something new. (I'm betting it's integration with iPhoto, with USB connectivity to digital cameras.)

 

[maxterpiece]

Now that is an idea !!! iLife for Windows , like iTunes is making PC users think Twice now about going Mac maybe iLife apps would push them that little bit more to buy a Mac.

if not, then the money Apple could make from PC users must be worth it .

Just a thought

Yeah, then soon enough we'll be seeing iLife updates for windows before mac because it is a bigger market. That would be entertaining.

 

[Porchland]

I know many people already stated that a finance app doesn't really fit in digital life style, so i'm not gonna point that out once more. but there's another point why this isn't a good product for Apple. And that is because these tax/finance apps all differ depending on the system the country where the app is used has for taxes and stuff. I don't remember Apple making any app that doesn't work universally, and don't think they would make a difference here.

I thought before, when AppleWorks rumors were swirling, that this was going to be part of a revamped productivity suite that would include an AppleWorks upgrade (iWork), Keynote 2 and probably some other stuff.

I know Apple doesn't want to push too hard when the relationship with Microsoft seems to be going smoothly, but competition with Microsoft is pretty much unavoidable and is already going on.

iTunes >> Windows Media Player
Safari >> Internet Explorer
Keynote >> PowerPoint

I would love to see Apple take on Microsoft Money and Quicken/QuickBooks.

 

[Porchland]

As far as the iLife for Windows goes, its not going to happen. Apple didn't release iTunes for Windows to give everyone a taste of Mac OS. They released it to sell more iPods. And from what I've heard, it worked.

Unless they're really hard-pressed to sell a ton of iSights to Windows users, I don't think we should expect more iLife apps to be ported.

iChat AV for Windows makes a lot of sense for the same reason iTunes for Windows does. Both are snapshots of how great things are on this side of the aisle that Apple can put out there without giving away the farm. A little exposure goes a long way.

I would also like to see some iChat interoperability with some of the other popular chat apps.

 

[nek]

Plus, the January keynote will be pretty crowded with iLife updates and copious (and well earned) iPod self-congratulation, and I think we're probably going to see a 60 GB iPod that does something new. (I'm betting it's integration with iPhoto, with USB connectivity to digital cameras.) ...

iChat AV for Windows makes a lot of sense for the same reason iTunes for Windows does. Both are snapshots of how great things are on this side of the aisle that Apple can put out there without giving away the farm. A little exposure goes a long way.

I would also like to see some iChat interoperability with some of the other popular chat apps.

I agree with both points. The ability to use an iPod with iPhoto for storage of photos from a digital camera would be very good. You could take a lot of pictures with all that space to store them.

Although I don't use this type of app that much, iChat for Windoos or at least compatibility with MSN would be good because right now I have to use Messenger to chat because thats what PC people use.

 

[liketom]

Ok BAD one iLife for Windows , so i still think that Apple will release some other "Bone" software for Windows user just to get them to switch, maybe iChat ?? give em that and you could call it "Rock ,Chat and then buy a Mac pack"
"iTunes and iChat" Free - Mac sold Separately

besides that my guesses are .....
iLife 05 -Jan-05 ,
Tiger - May 05 ,
PowerBook G4's 1.6/1.8 next 2 weeks ,
PowerBook G5 - Sept 05 ,
3Ghz G5 - Jan 05 ,
iPod Mini Updates - Jan 05 ,
Apple PDA - Never
iTunes Stores Japan/Aus/Can/Rest of Europe next 2 Months