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It sounds like you don't disagree with what I said. So I'm curious as to why you disliked my post?

It's not possible to have it both ways...

They have no opinion at all.

Tut to be signed into law, in less than a months time?
Well frankly speaking it seems that you are on both sides of the fence. It is not easy to understand what you are trying to say. Are you for or against the app?
 
The whole thing is shrouded in conspiracies. I honestly don't understand when, where, and how conspiracies became so commonplace in our society. To the point of who you replied to, though, doesn't the bill say nothing about Israel-Hamas? As far as I can tell it's only Ukraine that got aid out of this one?
Well I dunno.

The news is being reported as such…
Senate passes long-awaited aid for Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan, and TikTok bill
A package to provide aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan passed the full Senate, sending the measure to President Joe Biden’s desk.
The legislation also includes a measure to force Chinese company ByteDance to sell TikTok or else face a national ban of the app in the U.S.
Link
 
There was a time when Western Democracies understood that at their core they were fundamentally similar in contrast to authoritarian governments that are generally opposed to things like free speech and democracy. Is it really that simple for you to ignore those differences such that you think the US and China should be seen as equal in the eyes of the EU?
Yes, that is correct. It is extremely easy to ignore differences which only exist on paper but do not exist in practice.

Just because the United States contracts its censorship and subjugation regime out to private corporations instead of taking direct state action doesn't make the United States any different than any other oppressive state.

The only difference is that adherents to the falsehood of the "US-led democratic world order" think that they're free because they have access to McDonald's cheeseburgers, DoorDash, and Netflix. At the very best, such adherents are living in the past to the tune of being decades out of step with what is really happening.
 
Instead of banning it outright, just give China an ultimatum: play by the rules or get out. We have to bend over to them at every chance we get or else we have to pick up our toys and leave. So why can’t they? There shouldn’t be a “gray area” between privacy and doing business.
 
Good. It brings nothing positive. Just more time-wasting by scrolling through absolute garbage videos.
TikTok is just another version of YouTube or Reels. Should those be banned as they're time-wasting too?

Netflix, Apple TV+, Disney+, HBO, etc are all time-wasting. Let's ban those too.


Good Ban it. its filled with lies and morons.
So... ban Truth Social, Twitter/X, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, etc. too?
 
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Just because the United States contracts its censorship and subjugation regime out to private corporations instead of taking direct state action doesn't make the United States any different than any other oppressive state.
You really believe this? That the US and the CCP are equivalents?
 
All because of *Mister Yahoo!*
😒 we aren’t even allowed to mention his full name either for various reasons.
 
TikTok must be worth a fortune. Obviously we are all imagining Apple buying it, but Tim Cook doesn't buy companies that expensive. Plus it puts Apple squarely in the advertising game which is very un-Apple territory.

On the other hand, if Apple could offer social media and video hosting alternative to Google and Meta, with a selling point being privacy, then Apple could eat their lunch. Maybe half the amount of calories per bite, but with billions of users the less targeted ads could be worth a mega fortune one day.
 
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What is going to be the mental health impact on society for young people already addicted to this crap if they yank it away at the snap of their fingers?

Tik Tok can go up in a blaze of glory, but it seems they wanna push this legislation not because they care about 'spying' and not at all about the toxic influence this app has on society for easily influenced minds (as they cite 'spying' as the main reason), but because they want precedent to do whatever they want to censor any social media company - and that alone is frightening (IMO)

Too much too late

They should ban it at the organizational level as many already have and call it a day if they're really concerned about 'spying'

Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube
 
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9 months eh?

So I guess they can use the platform to swing the election first.
Swing the election for who? The vehemently anti-China and protectionist Biden, or the vehemently anti-China and protectionist Trump?

Anyone who believes this is about protecting Americans is a deluded fool. This is about protecting the interests of American tech companies who want to harvest all the data for themselves. Facebook has repeatedly abused user data, selling it to the highest bidder and manipulating algorithms to achieve their own political and monetary goals (including facilitating a genocide). Google is busy tracking everything everywhere that it can. None of the big American tech companies are regulated in any meaningful way.

Get your head out of the sand and stop drinking the bought and paid for American political kool-aid.

It is hilarious how the same people who are salivating to have this app banned also say America is the land of the free. :rolleyes:
 
It sounds like you don't disagree with what I said. So I'm curious as to why you disliked my post?

It's not possible to have it both ways...

They have no opinion at all.

The whole thing is shrouded in conspiracies. I honestly don't understand when, where, and how conspiracies became so commonplace in our society. To the point of who you replied to, though, doesn't the bill say nothing about Israel-Hamas? As far as I can tell it's only Ukraine that got aid out of this one?



Why is no one talking about how whatever Congress saw in those closed-door briefings being so significant that, in an age where nothing gets done, there was unanimous agreement on a bill that is about to be signed into law, in less than a months time?
Jews, let’s say the hidden word. Jews control all the universe, no wait, all the multi-universes. That’s what is implied in most comments here. The nazi hordes are desperate to keep the hatred platforms alive.
 
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I would be concerned that China will play the same game, "forcing" the sale of an American company that operates in China. Will Facebook or Apple be forced to sell their operations in China? Or simply pull out of the country?
 
It is hilarious how the same people who are salivating to have this app banned also say America is the land of the free. :rolleyes:
So, tech companies in general should be allowed to data mine and manipulate users? I'm trying to understand your point. IF you think this is bad, it seems to me you'd say "sure, start with TikTok but then also ban the other players as well."

But then you also seem to be completely ignoring anything geopolitical. Are all governments and political philosophies the same to you? You don't have any preference?
 
Why does anyone need Tiktok exactly?

Honestly, you'd be better off with it being banned. Plenty of other stuff to waste your time with
The only one who can determine that is the person themselves. Aside from a job, who is anyone to tell someone else what they can and can't do with their time? Lots of people find TikTok informative. Lots of others make a living off the platform.
 
If that's true, then ban Oracle as well since all TikTok data is stored on Oracle servers

The problem is not merely where the data is stored but who controls the algorithm and how recommended videos are shown to the public. It already has been stablished that China still controls TikTok. China is a US adversary and will push an agenda that is contrary to US interests. Tweak the algorithm a bit here and there and all the sudden kids will start chanting for Taiwan to reunite with China again… for example. Or spread misinformation at critical times during health emergencies… etc.
 
Who cares. It’s a short form video app, owned by a foreign adversary, ban it and move on. They should have given it 30 days to ban it. There is no free speech argument TikTok could make, congress isn’t banning the internet, or cell phones. The first amendment is about making sure the government can’t restrict speech (what people can say), not where they say it. You can say whatever you want on your blog, the fact that people are so upset about this shows it’s an addiction epidemic.
 
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