TikTok Facing Potential US Ban as Congress Passes Bill Requiring Sale

[GeneralChang]

I mean, it's pretty apparent that the Chinese government does manipulate the platform to control some political narratives. As do many other governments. Same goes for Twitter, Facebook, and basically every other social media platform.

The entire internet is basically a huge public-manipulation-through-misinformation nightmare right now. Very few people get their data from sources that aren't controlled by an algorithm that can be bought out or gamed in various ways. I don't think banning TikTok is a good or bad thing, but I do think it would be a bit naive to imagine that banning this one app is going to solve any of those problems. At best it just forces a few players to adjust their tactics.

 

[macjoshua]

This is the easiest way to get young people to sit out of the election.

 

[JungeQuex]

You really believe this? That the US and the CCP are equivalents?

Yes, lmao. Save your faux disbelief for one of your other blind adherents to corporate media rule of America. Just because you live in the 90s doesn’t mean that the rest of us do.

Yes, I believe a state who treated Chelsea Manning in the manner they did is just a taste of how brutally similar the two totalitarian states really are.

Enjoy your McDonald’s, though. You’re free.

 

[alfonsog]

Guess he figures the youth vote is already lost and is doubling down on the bad decisions. I really don’t want Trump to win in November but Biden seems determined to force his own loss.

From what I see with my niece, nephew and their friends and kids that work for me most of the TikTok users are minors under 17. Trump also tried to ban TikTok anyway. I still don’t think either will make it to the election with the court cases and age/health issues (back when my dad turned 81 end of July he was still working and healthy and then he died in November). I’m not wishing it to happen but I really want to see both parties scramble and panic to figure it out (I’m independent).

 

[lkrupp]

How many TikTok supporters here have no problem with a foreign dictatorship collecting your personal information for possible use in influencing your opinions and votes yet are outraged at the thought of the CIA/NSA/FBI collecting the same information? Why is that not cognitive dissonance in spades?

 

[Supermallet]

From what I see with my niece, nephew and their friends and kids that work for me most of the TikTok users are minors under 17. Trump also tried to ban TikTok anyway. I still don’t think either will make it to the election with the court cases and age/health issues (back when my dad turned 81 end of July he was still working and healthy and then he died in November). I’m not wishing it to happen but I really want to see both parties scramble and panic to figure it out (I’m independent).

It’s not just TikTok, that’s simply another straw onto the camel’s back. Look at the waves of amazing student protests happening right now across the country. Biden and the Dems have lost the youth vote almost entirely. Their votes won’t go to Republicans because they’re not stupid, but they won’t support the Democrats.

 

[bodhisattva]

That old chestnut of delusion. You had freedom of speech before TikTok. And guess what? You still do without it.

Agree. There are other platforms for your millions of time wasting videos which thoroughly confuse the youth (and a lot of adults) by either incorrect facts, dangerous challenges, or by attempting to convince them they can actually dance. Facebook Reels will be happy to have you. lol. The amount of time I see completely wasted by my kids, endlessly scrolling (for hours if we allow it) truly makes me sad.

 

[Student of Life]

Expect China to start banning US based apps and products. It will hurt US companies way more than banning TikTok will hurt them. As someone has already pointed out, Tesla and Apple will most likely have huge targets painted on their backs, if not already.

They already do and have for years.

Tesla and Apple manufacture in China, going after them would be the equivalent of spiting up at the sky, it's going to land on your face. Say Apple and Tesla leave, that means more jobs lost, thats why they won't go after either Apple or Tesla in this situation, it would just hurt them.

 

[StralyanPithecus]

Conflating Israel with Jews/Judaism is antisemitic. Israel is a colonialist nation-state aligned with US imperialism. Jews are a religious and ethnic minority group, and many of us are anti-Zionist. Criticism of Israel is not inherently antisemitic (although there are plenty of antisemitic dog whistles that use criticism of Israel as cover).

Hey, the CCCP is calling you!!

 

[bodhisattva]

How many TikTok supporters here have no problem with a foreign dictatorship collecting your personal information for possible use in influencing your opinions and votes yet are outraged at the thought of the CIA/NSA/FBI collecting the same information? Why is that not cognitive dissonance in spades?

Because with TikTok they can convince themselves they can dance, and feel good because a few dozen strangers out in the online space like their latest video. That is worth risking all privacy right? lol

 

[Supermallet]

How many TikTok supporters here have no problem with a foreign dictatorship collecting your personal information for possible use in influencing your opinions and votes yet are outraged at the thought of the CIA/NSA/FBI collecting the same information? Why is that not cognitive dissonance in spades?

I’m outraged at all of it, but this is performative politics designed to benefit the CIA/NSA/FBI along with American tech companies because it does nothing to curb or stop data collection from them. All it requires is that TikTok sell to an American owned entity. Nothing about data protections for us at all.

Hey, the CCCP is calling you!!

So you can’t argue my points on their merits because you have no leg to stand on, and resort to baseless ad hominem attacks. I didn’t realize it made me an agent of the CCCP to oppose genocide and colonialism.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

You can't understand my point when you literally make up what I'm thinking.

If you want to make sense of things, stop assuming what other people are thinking, obviously.

OK. Answer me this:

Should the US Ban TikTok? Why or Why Not?

 

[avz]

Both parties are funded by AIPAC, and they aren’t too happy with how pro-Palestine TikTok is.

Coincidentally, this TikTok ban was packaged with $26 billion in foreign aid support to Israel.

US plays "good cop, bad cop" game on a very expert level and I don't think you really know whom are they truly "support".

TikTok ban has nothing to do with it.

 

[Timo_Existencia]

I don’t buy any arguments that the US is in any way superior or more moral than China.

Thanks for making that clear. I think the US is very problematic for a lot of reasons; so much so that I left living there.

But the same as China? That's a road I can't travel with you. But it lets me understand your future statements with a better understanding of what you think.

 

[mystery hill]

Both parties have a terrible habit of over packing non-related things into "foreign Aid" plans just so that they can get their agendas forwarded. Not to mention the fact that the TikTok banning debate has been around long before the Israel/Palestine conflict.

I know that a TikTok ban has been proposed for a while due to concerns about foreign ownership of the platform.

There has been criticism by some politicians specifically about the influence of TikTok on the conflict, and the recent attention may have brought the vote forward now, rather than later.

 

[reden]

Getting this app banned from the US would be a godsend for the sake of improving the mental health of our population.

 

[AF_APPLETALK]

And the Covid vaccine contains Government Microchips right

You directly injected yourself with parasites. Sample below of what was in vaccines. Why did those vaccines need to be stored at -40 degrees? Did you ever ask yourself that?

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[BGPL]

Good, a complete time waster. I can't wait to hear the shrill screams of the influencers who make money off worthless content. If we can also ban Twitter and Insta then we can actually start driving when the light turns green. Right now I have to wait for each driver to finish posting before they realize it's time to go. My poor horn needs a break.

 

[StralyanPithecus]

So you can’t argue my points on their merits because you have no leg to stand on, and resort to baseless ad hominem attacks. I didn’t realize it made me an agent of the CCCP to oppose genocide and colonialism.

The moment you called Israel a genocide country is the moment I saw your true colors. You don't f*cking know what's a genocide country, but ask your Communist friends, they are experts at it. And yes I'm not interested in arguing with you, is a waste of time, so I will stop here.

 

[Pakaku]

U.S. lawmakers want TikTok to be sold to a company outside of China over concerns that the Chinese government could force ByteDance to hand over data from users located in the United States. If Beijing made the request, ByteDance would not be able to refuse. There have also been suggestions that Chinese authorities could use TikTok to spread political propaganda.

As if the US is any better...

 

[diamornte]

Thank God. I hope TikTok goes away forever. It’s just a place where attention wh*res thrive.

 

[StralyanPithecus]

You directly injected yourself with parasites. Sample below of what was in vaccines. Why did those vaccines need to be stored at -40 degrees? Did you ever ask yourself that?

Oh, you weren't informed by your doctors or the government of its contents? Too bad, you accepted it under an EUA and now you have no legal recourse. Wish you the best of luck, mate, but you might want to stop laughing at everyone who dared to look a little bit further into this than you.

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[God of Biscuits]

"[T]he Chinese government has already made it clear that it will 'firmly oppose' such a move."

The Chinese government can self-fornicate.

the US government is acting analogously to the Chinese government in banning apps/services. So where does that leave you?

 

[AF_APPLETALK]

Both parties are funded by AIPAC, and they aren’t too happy with how pro-Palestine TikTok is.

Coincidentally, this TikTok ban was packaged with $26 billion in foreign aid support to Israel.

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And here's the real reason right here. When AIPAC says jump, Congress says "how high?" They just want this #FreePalestine stuff off the platform, which China does not care about in any way whatsoever. Pretty straightforward.

When the government does something like this, it’s worth asking “Who does this benefit?”

This bill will benefit Meta. It will also benefit AIPAC, as TikTok has become a hub for pro-Palestine content. Recall that Meta very recently decided to heavily censor all political content.

If I were Joe Biden and trying to get the youth to vote for me in a few months I would not brand myself as “the guy who banned TikTok.”

So nice to see people on here are aware/awake of what's actually going on in our government

 

[npmacuser5]

Do I need or cannot live without TikTok the question. Easy answer, No. More holes in a leaking ship, the faster one’s ship will sink. Less Apps on one’s devices the better. Nice that MacRumors does not have an app.