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TikTok Facing Potential US Ban as Congress Passes Bill Requiring Sale
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Good move. All social media has big problems, but social media whose algorithm is under the control of the Chinese government is dangerous.
What is it with the authoritarian camp that keeps making up what everyone else is thinking.
No-one can clear up your misunderstanding if you keep making things up.
Again, I'm simply trying to understand your point. I'm responding to what you are saying. I'm not telling you what you are saying, I'm asking you to clarify what you are saying. But you seem intent on not clarifying it. So be it.
1. This makes no sense. You understand that it's the US government that's trying to have it both ways here, actually, every way they can, and then some.
2. Being so insignificant that it wouldn't pass public scrutiny more like. The US gov leaks information to their media allies weekly when they think it strengthens their case.
China already doesn't allow US social media companies to operate and hasn't for years. Apple assembles nearly all their devices in China, mooting any national security argument, and it would be a massive hit to China's economy to change that.
But if China wants to ban Tesla I'm all for it 😅
You can't understand my point when you literally make up what I'm thinking.
If you want to make sense of things, stop assuming what other people are thinking, obviously.
So many people on here seem wholly oblivious to geopolitical issues.
Just to give you some perspective, especially those of you who are decrying "first amendment" rights...
In China, the following apps are banned:
YouTube
Facebook
Instagram
WhatsApp
Twitter/X
Netflix
Just to give you some perspective, especially those of you who are decrying "first amendment" rights...
In China, the following apps are banned:
YouTube
Twitter/X
Netflix
A range of issues.
1.) To those dispensing scathing contempt for it as a 'waste of time,' have you no 'frivolous' hobbies? Like, oh, say, trash talking a social media platform in discussion on a niche computer platform rumors site? Do you care what other people think of what you do with your free time?
2.) A concern was possible censorship with the lack of TikTok content on things like Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tiananmen Square, etc... How hard would it be for concerned parties, the government of whoever, to have a bunch of people with TikTok accounts post videos on some subjects that aren't over-the-top, visit and support each others content on it, and see what happens?
3.) People outside the U.S. on trips who want to watch their home Netflix subscription can use a VPN to get access without disclosing their actual geographic location, from what I understand. Is that an option here? If millions of American youth get themselves a VPN client, can they bypass the ban and keep using TikTok?
4.) China bans some U.S. media companies (e.g.: Facebook). If they didn't, I'd likely condemn this ban, but one-way covert manipulation can be bad news.
5.) As for likening American social media players to TikTok's relationship with the Chinese government, it ain't the same. Not long ago I watched a video where some media heads including Zuckerberg were basically grilled by Congress, with Ted Cruz on some ego trip from what I could tell. Does anyone think ByteDance dares risk that kind of animosity with the Chinese government? I'm not inclined to trust the U.S. federal government a great deal (hello, Edward Snowden), but in the U.S. we can chant 'Let's go Brandon' or what-have-you to diss the President. Got a feeling trying that in China targeting President Xi might be rather unhealthy, but I could be wrong.
1.) To those dispensing scathing contempt for it as a 'waste of time,' have you no 'frivolous' hobbies? Like, oh, say, trash talking a social media platform in discussion on a niche computer platform rumors site? Do you care what other people think of what you do with your free time?
2.) A concern was possible censorship with the lack of TikTok content on things like Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tiananmen Square, etc... How hard would it be for concerned parties, the government of whoever, to have a bunch of people with TikTok accounts post videos on some subjects that aren't over-the-top, visit and support each others content on it, and see what happens?
3.) People outside the U.S. on trips who want to watch their home Netflix subscription can use a VPN to get access without disclosing their actual geographic location, from what I understand. Is that an option here? If millions of American youth get themselves a VPN client, can they bypass the ban and keep using TikTok?
4.) China bans some U.S. media companies (e.g.: Facebook). If they didn't, I'd likely condemn this ban, but one-way covert manipulation can be bad news.
5.) As for likening American social media players to TikTok's relationship with the Chinese government, it ain't the same. Not long ago I watched a video where some media heads including Zuckerberg were basically grilled by Congress, with Ted Cruz on some ego trip from what I could tell. Does anyone think ByteDance dares risk that kind of animosity with the Chinese government? I'm not inclined to trust the U.S. federal government a great deal (hello, Edward Snowden), but in the U.S. we can chant 'Let's go Brandon' or what-have-you to diss the President. Got a feeling trying that in China targeting President Xi might be rather unhealthy, but I could be wrong.
The government already has this power and has for decades. See, e.g., CFIUS and 47 U.S.C. § 310(a), (b).
This bill does NOTHING to prevent data mining. All it does is ensure that data mining is done by American owned entities. None of these sites should be banned, but they should be regulated, potentially heavily, to ensure that these corporations aren’t abusing the power they have over users.
No, not all governments and political philosophies are the same to me. But the US is a warmongering, imperialist country that demonstrably makes the world a worse place, so I don’t buy any arguments that the US is in any way superior or more moral than China.
"China bans lots of apps, so it's okay if we act like them a little and ban one!" is not really making the point that you think it is.
But I guess now there will be less criticism of American policy toward Israel out there, and that's something congress can really get together on (yes, I'm aware that the desire to ban TikTok goes back a long way, but it seems clear to me what fast-tracked it).
But I guess now there will be less criticism of American policy toward Israel out there, and that's something congress can really get together on (yes, I'm aware that the desire to ban TikTok goes back a long way, but it seems clear to me what fast-tracked it).
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Expect China to start banning US based apps and products. It will hurt US companies way more than banning TikTok will hurt them. As someone has already pointed out, Tesla and Apple will most likely have huge targets painted on their backs, if not already.
President Biden just signed the bill into law.
www.theverge.com
The 9 month clock starts now. Tick-tock TikTok 🤣
Biden signs TikTok “ban” bill into law, starting the clock for ByteDance to divest it
ByteDance has up to a year to sell TikTok and avoid a ban.
www.theverge.com
The 9 month clock starts now. Tick-tock TikTok 🤣
Conflating Israel with Jews/Judaism is antisemitic. Israel is a colonialist nation-state aligned with US imperialism. Jews are a religious and ethnic minority group, and many of us are anti-Zionist. Criticism of Israel is not inherently antisemitic (although there are plenty of antisemitic dog whistles that use criticism of Israel as cover).
Unlike in the U.S., China doesn't have a 1st Amendment/free speech rights, so what are you trying to prove exactly?
Guess he figures the youth vote is already lost and is doubling down on the bad decisions. I really don’t want Trump to win in November but Biden seems determined to force his own loss.President Biden just signed the bill into law.
Biden signs TikTok “ban” bill into law, starting the clock for ByteDance to divest it
ByteDance has up to a year to sell TikTok and avoid a ban.
The 9 month clock starts now. Tick-tock TikTok 🤣
TikTok is a threat to national security, I personally think the government should have taken action sooner.
Both parties have a terrible habit of over packing non-related things into "foreign Aid" plans just so that they can get their agendas forwarded. Not to mention the fact that the TikTok banning debate has been around long before the Israel/Palestine conflict.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
This is more so a matter of national security if data is being given to the Chinese government. IANAL, technically this does violate free speech, but people have means of voicing and posting videos through other platforms.