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Tim Cook Announces R&D Center to Be Built in China 'By the End of the Year'
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Profound analysis of someone who joined Macrumors yesterday.
So when will China start playing by the rules? Does this mean they'll get rid of all the fake Apple stores (and fake Apple products) that are allowed to persist because they don't believe in copyright? Does that mean any company that doesn't want their IP blatantly ripped off has to open an R&D center in China?
I actually don't. What I have an issue with is thinking corporations inherently have a responsibility to do this. If the Government wants to make laws that prevent outsourcing, okay, I can live with that. That's why China has S.O.E's so it can use companies for political ends. American doesn't have that system. The idea that companies headquartered in American should be have some sort of allegiance to the American government and people is kind of silly to me. If that's what Americans really want, then have the U.S Government buy Apple and have the U.S Government use Apple to further its political agenda. That's essentially what they're saying: U.S Companies should coordinate their activities to further U.S national interests. Which, just have Socialism/Communism then.
Ugh 'Fair Wages'. Hate that term. First of all, like I said above, honestly, blame your Government. Personally, I can completely understand and respect Americans who advocate for tariffs from China if their goal is to keep jobs in America. Fine. But what I have an issue with is thinking that companies inherently have some kind of moral obligation to do this.
I would go on a rant about wages, but, I'll say this: China is still developing. It's trying to abandon manufacturing, and increase wages through innovation. I hope it works, but it'll be a tough battle. But in general, although wages are ridiculously low compared to the U.S, the Average Chinese can make ends meet. Should they get paid more, sure, and wages in manufacturing have been climbing steadily the past few years. That's why many companies are thinking of moving to Vietnam and so on.
The only human right is your right to live. Also, Tibet is a separatist region. So, yeah. We'll agree to disagree on that.
So, this is an interesting point. China doesn't play by the rules, and they're clearly benefiting. So, what? Why not let American companies cheat? Why not let American companies do the same thing? China doesn't care about the moral high ground, it cares about winning. All America does is go 'China is cheating!'.... Okay, so why not cheat as well? Because that's 'immoral'... Okay, well. You have two options: be immoral, or let China beat you. You can either feel good about yourself that you took the high road, or you can compete at all costs. Choice is yours.
Watch China manipulate and all but sabotage Apple at every turn. 'Those who ignore history are doo.....'
yeah because there are more to be sucked out from white people than you chinese. The British taught Hong Kong about rule of law, freedom of speech and human right. What you chinese guys have there to offer? Fake DVDs? Polluted air from the north? 150 immigrants everyday?
Yeah the chinese do have a military in Hong Kong, you know why? coz the chinese are famous for killing innocent citizens. What happened in Tiananmen Square back at 1989? I guess you don't know since your government censors everything. You believe Hong Kong is irrelevant and yet chinese people try to get Hong Kong citizenship by every means everyday (fake marriage, studentship, pregnant women giving birth in HK) etc....
If Hong Kong is so irrelevant then tell your people to get the fxxk out of Hong Kong. This city is doomed since the 1997 chinese occupation and will never return to its glory under the chinese iron fist .
唇亡齒寒的道理你也不是不懂
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Well, why can't we all get along?? Since you guys all have full access to this page, it means we all know the history, the politics, and the stories, there is no need for profanity, really. Regardless of your governing party or nationality, as long as you are ethnically Chinese, you are Chinese.
No one hates the British or Caucasian in general in greater China or where Chinese resides around the world. Chinese accept them around the world as a respected parent culture to a very high degree. Governed by the British by 100 years doesn't change who you are as a HongKongness. I fully understand and I may even reconcile your current feeling, your disagreements and disappointments. But it doesn't do you and me any good. There is a process for a lot of people when they suddenly received so many information and propaganda from the other perspective, then they are shocked, then they start to investigate, then they dig even deeper into the conspiracy, then they connect the dots and come to a realization that everything they were taught was a lie, then they rage. It doesn't stop here. One day they will gain enough knowledge into both systems and know the fundamental system of a human society is much like firms in a free market. The fundamental goal of any firm is to maximize profit. There are numerous critical flaws in democratic social systems, on the other hand, there are a sizable amount of drawbacks in socialism too. No current political system is perfect and adoptable, the ideal one is yet to be drafted and I am certain no single system can fit all countries, not until the day when everyone on the planet is a global citizen with very high mobility. The more you can take in and accept, the quicker you can get over your psychological meltdown and start living and experiencing. That is when you discover, that it's not all that simple, that crap happened for a reason. It's all a part of the system, a game, where political, economic, military outcomes are so predictable by game theory and we all want the best result fundamentally if you can compensate for the strategical ambiguity.
You can never understand the situation if you are in the situation yourself by being enraged. It is scientifically impossible because you can't fully understand the scope when you are in the scope. When you are released to a higher scope, you will understand the game, everything is like that for a reason.
Take a breath and start living. The power of discourses is only held by the successful.
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If that's the case, the US was wrong to take that approach, and we stopped. Since there are supposed to be laws in both the US and China for patent protection, it doesn't give China any right to do it now.
That's like saying all 1950s cars with fins are clones of a Cadillac, just not exact clones. It's true in a way, but meaningful only if you know more automobile history than just that era.
It's true that Cadillac made fins popular and every other maker wanted to cash in on that popularity. But Cadillac did not invent the idea of fins, just as Apple did not invent the idea of full frontal touchscreen phones.
The idea was already known and even shown/tried a few times, but not by any large enough maker to make an impact.
Likewise, many might think of the iPhone 6 as a clone of Samsung's phablets, and that would be true, marketwise, as Apple clearly wanted to cash in on Samsung's success with them. But Samsung didn't invent the phablet; they only made it popular.
Heck many smartphones had Google Maps, search, and even a tap-to-zoom browser before the iPhone came out. They also had 3G, GPS, MMS, videocam, third party apps and stores, and a host of other features that the iPhone later copied. because such design choices were popular and sold phones. And that's okay.
The point is, there's a huge difference between copying something that's an actual unique invention, and copying a known desirable feature or concept which was made popular by a product.
Using such logic, the Newton and all smartphones are an evolution of the Psion Organizer which was released in 1984.
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Actually government coordinating with business for national interest is fascism. Government owning corporations is communism. There is a huge difference.
Now arguably the reason China is cheating is precisely because they aren't communism but fascist. They help their own businesses by devaluing their currency, by having lower corp income tax and by prioritizing them in IP disputes.
Separating business from government is a noble goal but the constitution clearly states the point of govt. is to provide for the general welfare and having jobs and a strong economy falls under that. The problem is you can't even truly separate business from government (e.g. lobbyist) so our govt. is an infighting mess. If anything having them work together to further America's interests would actually help the American people.
Timmy the problem at Apple is YOU not the R & D department
Timmy spent billions more then Steve in R&D and we still have products that are 4 years old and overpriced
Tim you are incompetent as well as very greedy. Let a young, smart and hungry CEO run Apple
Tim keeps building jobs outside the US when he can't even manage the Apple US R&D department
Timmy you are really a patriotic guy
Timmy spent billions more then Steve in R&D and we still have products that are 4 years old and overpriced
Tim you are incompetent as well as very greedy. Let a young, smart and hungry CEO run Apple
Tim keeps building jobs outside the US when he can't even manage the Apple US R&D department
Timmy you are really a patriotic guy
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American tech companies that have outsourced their R&D have paid for it.
Maybe Apple plans to save on R&D by cloning Chinese devices.. Apple: 'We are just getting with the program here'
[doublepost=1471713640][/doublepost]IT'S TIME APPLE MOVED PRODUCTION TO USA!
Apple is planning an all-new research and development center in China, attempting to boost its presence and market share in the country following multiple reports of the iPhone's dwindling returns as users flock towards low-cost alternatives. The R&D center, said "to be built by the end of the year," will mark Apple's first location of its kind in the Asia-Pacific region (via Reuters).
The announcement comes from Apple CEO Tim Cook, on a visit in China this week, who spoke with Vice Premier Zhang Gaoli on Tuesday and detailed the company's plans for the center. Those details weren't specifically disclosed to the public, so it's still unclear where the new R&D center will be located, or how many employees it might house.
Cook's August trip marks his second visit to China this year, following a tour of Beijing in May where he met with App Store developers and Didi Chuxing president Jean Liu. Although once Apple's second largest market in the world, the company announced during last month's earnings report that its revenue in China dropped 33 percent year-over-year, ultimately allowing Europe to overtake China as its second biggest market, following the United States.
Concern about Apple's future in China stems from the country's heavy focus on potentially invasive foreign products and services, leading to events like the closure of the iTunes and iBooks store earlier in the spring, due to the launch of a controversial dystopian film. Apple has faced lawsuits due to similar occurrences as well, making it hard for the company to focus solely on helping the iPhone gain traction against China's plentiful low-cost smartphone options.
Article Link: Tim Cook Announces R&D Center to Be Built in China 'By the End of the Year'
Not only American... all the companies. Even those who moved "only" the production.