Actually, all the cellphones with a front made entirely or mostly of a glass touchscreen are clones of the original iPhone. Just not exact clones. The iPhone itself is an evolution of the Newton which Apple started developing in 1987.
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Tim Cook Announces R&D Center to Be Built in China 'By the End of the Year'
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Actually, all the cellphones with a front made entirely or mostly of a glass touchscreen are clones of the original iPhone. Just not exact clones. The iPhone itself is an evolution of the Newton which Apple started developing in 1987.
If the Chinese were on equal footing and paid fair wages then your argument is great. But they don't. I worked there and the employees that are working for Mfg's kick back a portion of their pay. While the chinese Government robs our intellectual property. This makes a lot of sense. I don't mind fair trade and jobs overseas, as long as the tax and employment was on equal footing. If this is happening in your country where all the money remains overseas you would be pissing also. We have been watching our jobs decline while China gets them but charges us higher tariffs for selling our goods there. they sell steel at cost here in the USA while our steel mills stand idle. So NO I don't care one bit about them not having jobs that should be here.
Cook's favorite song is now "Cuz I'm turning
Are you serious ? Did you know 78% of foreign investment of CHINA was made by Hongkong's Company ?
DID YOU KNOW WE PAY FOR THE WARER SUPPLY ARE 200% EXPENSIVE THAN SINGAPORE-malaysia DOES?
WE PAID FOR IT ! NOT FREE , PLEASE STOP ALL THE TRAVELLER TO HONG KONG , THE F*** CHINESE
ARE ONLY CONTRIBUTE 2.5% OF GDP BUT WE SPEND MORE THAN 2.5% GDP FOR PREVENTING
THE F*** CHINESE SCREW UP EVERYTHING , STEALING EVERYTHING FROM US!
HONG KONG WAS FOUNDED MORE THAN 175 YEARS, WE LIVE BETTER WITHOUT YOU
This is what happens when you let the bean counters run the company.
Or Chinese National Agents, in which case leakers would be shot and disposed of without a word.
Hate to break it to you, but from the time North America was colonized until after WWI, the US' attitude toward IP mirrored that of the the Chinese today. We didnt' start caring about IP until after WWII - when most of those patents belonged to US Corporations.
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They aren't now.
Interesting that people worry about NSA (who is on our side) but ignore other agencies.
Personally I think the Chinese ... with their fingers in all aspects of iPhone manufacturing... would find it far easier to implant a backdoor in devices that are partly designed and mostly made in their country.
Heck, I think the secret keys for the Secure Enclave/Element are injected in Chinese factories. They're not supposed to be kept, but they could secretly be recorded along with the UDID, possibly allowing Chinese intelligence services to unlock any iPhone in the world.
Personally I think the Chinese ... with their fingers in all aspects of iPhone manufacturing... would find it far easier to implant a backdoor in devices that are partly designed and mostly made in their country.
Heck, I think the secret keys for the Secure Enclave/Element are injected in Chinese factories. They're not supposed to be kept, but they could secretly be recorded along with the UDID, possibly allowing Chinese intelligence services to unlock any iPhone in the world.
Actually according to one of the articles I read and linked to in this thread I think by law they insist on having source codes and back doors with some of the companies who tried and backed out of doing business there. Now whether or not their laws apply in conjunction with what Apple will be doing there, I don't know. You will know that better than I, given your nose for news.
I hope the case will be as one of the other forum members conjectures earlier: the R&D they do there will be walled off from what Apple does elsewhere and it will just pertain to their business ventures in China, which given their investment in Didi, will likely center around whatever they're planning to do with transportation.
As a consumer in America my personal feeling is that Tim is more focused on the money that can be made in China from their vast population. If following that money means a focus on Apple cars, that's what will happen and we can only guess at the impacts such a focus will have on the products we want from Apple. That's why I'm weaning myself from the Apple Ecosystem.
Tim doesn't seem very responsive to questions about plans for the domestic market and gives canned responses and vague references to amazing things in a clearly slow pipeline. But he really comes alive and shows a lot of enthusiasm for China and India.
I don't know what to make of that, really. If I seem to go back and forth in this forum between sticking up for Apple and blasting them, it's because I don't know where they are going and meanwhile I see we get lame ideas like removing the headphone jack prematurely on a stale form factor and the horror that is Planet of the Apps.
People on this thread think Americans are reacting in a racist manner but I'm watching a parallel drama playing out in Korea as Samsung is said to be releasing a version of Note 7 that has all the exciting specs that were rumored for the general international release.
Apparently China demanded and got a version tailored to their market that has more storage and more RAM. Even the Koreans will not see this version released in their country. Once this all becomes official it will be interesting to see the reaction in Korea.
China is the 500 pound gorilla that's getting its way and hey, I think it's normal to be jealous and a little bit tired of the influence they have on the products we see in our countries.
I'm going around in circles on this forum but I do enjoy reading and contemplating the different points of view on this news.
Flock to low cost? are we sure thats why Apple is loosing its base/growth?
I'm thinking it might also have a little to do with many other things.
So the Chinese government screws Apple and even incites their people to protest and not buy their products and Cook responds by rewarding the crooks with an R&D Center and hundreds of jobs?
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[doublepost=1471384955][/doublepost]Up yours, Apple
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[doublepost=1471384955][/doublepost]Up yours, Apple
Are you ****ing serious? Dude. Bette go see doctor sometime. Seriously, Hong Kong depends on China more than China Depends on Hong Kong.
i guess you rather suck Birith white peoples than be Chinese. I get you.
One thing you should know. No matter how much you hate Mainland Chinese, Hong Kong will be under direct control by Chinese government. I simply do not care about Hong Konger. You should also remember, our military is inside Hong Kong. I can also tell you, Hong Kog will be irrelevant... It is already irrelevant, it will be even more so.
You can dream about your Hong Kong independence. We will not allow your independence and you will never be independent.
Oh, you don't like Chinese. But no Chinese care about you.
I see nothing wrong with Apple's investment. Instead, I foresee a future where Apple will design and market products exclusively for those countries who limit the scope of Apple's ecosystem or restrict their citizens from partaking in certain liberties. I see a future where Apple will offer cheaper products to those countries' working classes whose earnings aren't comparable to other developed nations (Like the iPhone 5C was). Those products will be designed such that they can't be sold and used elsewhere. It won't matter if the Apple ecosystem in China isn't compatible with the Apple ecosystem used in the free world. A dual existence like this will improve Apple's chances of success there. Who knows, China's working class may equal ours someday and if democracy follows, then we can all use the same transgender emoji or whatever...
Another payoff to China the biggest human rights violator on the planet. Nice job hypocrite Tim.