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I'd argue that given the choice of screen sizes, very few people would pick the 4.7"-5.5" iPhones. Samsung and other companies have been selling oversized handsets for over 4 years, and yet more and more consumers were still choosing the 3.5"-4" iPhones.

Again, because Samsung phones don't run iOS. Even so, many iPhone users abandoned ship in search for larger screens, and almost every iPhone user I knew always said they wished apple just made larger screens. MAYBE a 4" iphone would still sell decently, but 3.5" is completely out of the question.
 
Anyone remembers the iPhone 4S introduction three years and one day ago?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1239060/

While every iPhone release is met with some criticism from a couple of very vocal people, the 4S had one of the worst backlash any iPhone release had.

Remember that it happened when Apple switched from the traditional June iPhone unveiling to October, which meant almost 16 months between the 4 and 4S release, so the hype was bigger than ever.

People were expecting the iPhone 5 to be unveiled then, with a new form factor and a bigger screen and many were disappointed to see Apple keep the same form factor as the 4. Critics, including the media were very harsh.

The next day, Steve Jobs passed away.
 
oh man !!

Why did employees gotta be reminded

They're trying to do their job, and its probably out of their system by now, but Time has to nudge us all..

Oh dam u Tim.
 
9/11 I remember i was on the bus heading home from work (quarter to eleven Western Australia time, in the evening).

But Steve job's passing, nope. Sad though when I heard about it

Princess Diana left more of an impact on the world but let's not get into a debate. Just saying. :)

Listen, anyone's death is tragic. But Princess Diana... Versus Steve Jobs? I mean a life is a life, but I truly think the man who brought computing, MP3 players, and smartphones to the masses had a larger impact on more people. Not saying he was a better person, but there are entire multi-trillion-dollar industries that wouldn't be nearly where they are today without Steve...
 
Many of the ideas and projects we're working on today got started after he died...

I.e., a slightly incirect, but clear way of publicly declaring "I'm honoring Steve and we're using the momentum and values he gave us, but do understand that this is my Apple now...."

And mixed so far with some slips and second-guessable stuff, but not bad at all for a "post-founder transitional CEO" as Apple waits for its next "true visionary"....

So gonna be interesting...
 
Listen, anyone's death is tragic. But Princess Diana... Versus Steve Jobs? I mean a life is a life, but I truly think the man who brought computing, MP3 players, and smartphones to the masses had a larger impact on more people. Not saying he was a better person, but there are entire multi-trillion-dollar industries that wouldn't be nearly where they are today without Steve...

Di loved fashion and that's Apples thing now ;)
 
I'm don't like Tim Cook, not that it matters.

I appreciate he has a company to run and profits to deliver, but I can't stand the over emphasising of words and fake enthusiasm at keynotes. He always sounds to forced and false.

Steve did that too. Everything was "amazing".

Tim's trying to fill steve's shoes but he's not the visionary steve was and I find him a bore to listen to. But he seems to be growing in the job.
 
Steve did that too. Everything was "amazing".

Tim's trying to fill steve's shoes but he's not the visionary steve was and I find him a bore to listen to. But he seems to be growing in the job.

I could almost agree with your view with one addition.

In contrast to Tim, Steve was deeply involved in the development of products and cared a great deal more for the output than Tim, which translates to successful keynotes as well. We all know that it makes it a whole lot easier to market the product if the product itself is developed with strong selling points.

It's basically a snowball effect.

Tim is doing exactly the opposite. Trying to market the half-baked products he is not wholeheartedly involved with in the first place. That is really hard and keynotes speak for themselves.

I can easily believe that in Steve's era, Cupertino HQ resembled a Nazi plotting bunker that was renovated into a Candy Mountain post-2011.
 
Again, because Samsung phones don't run iOS. Even so, many iPhone users abandoned ship in search for larger screens, and almost every iPhone user I knew always said they wished apple just made larger screens. MAYBE a 4" iphone would still sell decently, but 3.5" is completely out of the question.
Again, I don't see any data to back up this claim. I've never met anyone wanting a bigger iPhone, the biggest appeal of Android handsets being either their price (which now averages at $200 contract free) or their customizability, and sometimes both. How can you tell which data from which sample is most representative?

iPhone sales have been constantly growing since the launch of the original model, despite Android handsets featuring bigger screens for the last 4 years. It would have been interesting to see how a normally sized iPhone 6 would have fared along the 4.7" and 5.5".
 
Listen, anyone's death is tragic. But Princess Diana... Versus Steve Jobs? I mean a life is a life, but I truly think the man who brought computing, MP3 players, and smartphones to the masses had a larger impact on more people. Not saying he was a better person, but there are entire multi-trillion-dollar industries that wouldn't be nearly where they are today without Steve...

Princess Diana? The biggest welfare queen on the planet. Howard Stern was correct. Her impact was trivial. Just a spoiled brat with lots of free time on her hands.
 
Again, I don't see any data to back up this claim. I've never met anyone wanting a bigger iPhone, the biggest appeal of Android handsets being either their price (which now averages at $200 contract free) or their customizability, and sometimes both. How can you tell which data from which sample is most representative?

iPhone sales have been constantly growing since the launch of the original model, despite Android handsets featuring bigger screens for the last 4 years. It would have been interesting to see how a normally sized iPhone 6 would have fared along the 4.7" and 5.5".

How can you quantify your statement? I would imagine that screen size is/was a big factor for Android having appeal. You've never met anyone who wanted a bigger iPhone? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
 
If they want to really remember him, stop this pathetic public mourning. Do a charity events day or raise money for Pancreatic Cancer Research/Transplant Research. Something that actually benefits people.

then apple would have to spend some of its money collection. Not gonna happen unless they get a cut
 
Let's get real, a 3.5" screen was small even for 2011, and the 4" wasn't much of an improvement. He was wrong.

Picking out one thing and determining the whole thing based on it is missing the big picture. iPhone is more than just the screen size. Either way, whether 3.5" was small in 2011 is debatable.
 
Princess Diana? The biggest welfare queen on the planet. Howard Stern was correct. Her impact was trivial. Just a spoiled brat with lots of free time on her hands.

To my understanding, the Royal family does not really get welfare money. They're actually one of the few state entities that actually generate money.
 
Picking out one thing and determining the whole thing based on it is missing the big picture. iPhone is more than just the screen size. Either way, whether 3.5" was small in 2011 is debatable.
Galaxy Note 1 was released in the same timeframe as the 4S and was an unexpected success amid Apple-fanboy bashing.
 
He wasn't wrong. Back before 2011, that was the correct size. 2014 is different.
1984 Mac was the perfect product for 1984. That doesn't mean that we should still have a b/w display and up to 512k of RAM. Things change, and
Steve's ability was to know where to put his money on.
Even "perfection" evolves.

Wrong, bigger phones were everywhere in 2011 and Apple was behind.
 
Dumb argument. There's not a single person that conventional cancer treatment didn't cure that "alternative therapies" would have. Alternative therapy, at least in the case of cancer, ARE snake oil. This is also the man who thought an all-fruit diet would make it unnecessary to shower.

I have to disagree there. Every few years, there is word of an independent doctor coming up with a novel cancer treatment and getting a strong following for the results. Then the FDA and local authorities arrest him for "not using standard practices" where he either 1) leaves the country, 2) is brought in line with the FDA and the AMA, 3) does jail time and looses his medical license.

Like Facebook, free health care makes you the product being sold.
 
Their is a weak point in the design that was pointed out.

Agree. This is a reach cross referencing several sources but it looks like the finger pointing over where the problem occurred in the development and manufacturing release chain is not going public. I expect the next batch of iPhone 6 units should have a mechanical fix. From the discussions I have read, let's refer to the following pic.

https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/6fZnVJfT3TJZLCcU

Notice the two brackets on the volume button side of the case held together above dog-leg shaped ribbon with the Apple logo. That screw mount is right where all this bending is occurring.

My guess is the fix will replace these two brackets with a single bracket so there is no fulcrum action on this part of the frame with force is applied to the corner above the volume buttons.

I recommend anyone doing tear-downs do a second tear-down of the next build come this Christmas season.
 
How can you quantify your statement? I would imagine that screen size is/was a big factor for Android having appeal. You've never met anyone who wanted a bigger iPhone? I find that incredibly hard to believe.
That's the thing though. People wanting a bigger iPhone can't quantify it either. The only people I've ever met who wanted a bigger iPhone were seniors with diminished eyesight and young kids with iPod touch (that their parents are left to carry around most of the time).
 
Remind them?

Steve wasn't that forgettable.

But hey...anything to draw attention to Apple.
 
That's the thing though. People wanting a bigger iPhone can't quantify it either. The only people I've ever met who wanted a bigger iPhone were seniors with diminished eyesight and young kids with iPod touch (that their parents are left to carry around most of the time).

Originally you said no one gets the bigger phones - they just want a cheaper or a phone they can geek out with. Now there ARE people who want a bigger screen? Sounds to me like you're speaking in hyperbole. And now again. No - those that want bigger screens are not just old people or young kids with iPod touches.

Do you really believe what you're typing?
 
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