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Tim Cook Asks Apple Employees to Remember Steve Jobs on Third Anniversary of His Death

lotusindigo said:
Big friggin IF. Because of course, no cancer patient has ever died under the "care" of conventional medicine who immediately entrusted themselves to the "big boys," right?
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Yes, sometimes even the best available conventional method is not enough to defeat cancer. And if a conventional method can't do it, no way in hell can a natural method do the trick. Again, no one died from conventional treatment who would have survived if given natural "treatment". Cancer and other diseases are nature's population control, why would nature willingly give you the tools to cure those diseases? Lastly, if natural cures were effective, humans would have never had to invent modern medicine because they would have figured out these natural remedies millennia ago and wouldn't have died in their 50's.
 
iBlazed said:
Yes, sometimes even the best available conventional method is not enough to defeat cancer. And if a conventional method can't do it, no way in hell can a natural method do the trick. Again, no one died from conventional treatment who would have survived if given natural "treatment". Cancer and other diseases are nature's population control, why would nature willingly give you the tools to cure those diseases? Lastly, if natural cures were effective, humans would have never had to invent modern medicine because they would have figured out these natural remedies millennia ago and wouldn't have died in their 50's.
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Weren't you just talking anti-religion earlier? Why are you now referring to nature as if it has sentient will? You're talking about the same nature than provides us with food and water, big brains and opposable thumbs. It always gives us the tools, we have to be smart enough to use them. And cancer isn't nature's population control - it's ours. Using our crap food and polluted cities we make sure there's not too many of us around and that the conventional medicine industry is supplied with plenty of fodder. It wasn't invented to cure disease, it was invented to profit off of them. Cut, poison and burn is profitable. Nutrition, exercise and rest? Not so much.
 
lotusindigo said:
Weren't you just talking anti-religion earlier? Why are you now referring to nature as if it has sentient will? You're talking about the same nature than provides us with food and water, big brains and opposable thumbs.
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Not sure what that has to do with religion. Everything in nature has a biological reason. It's more about adaptation and evolution than religion...


lotusindigo said:
It always gives us the tools, we have to be smart enough to use them.
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And we do use them. We call them "modern medicine".

lotusindigo said:
And cancer isn't nature's population control - it's ours. Using our crap food and polluted cities we make sure there's not too many of us around and that the conventional medicine industry is supplied with plenty of fodder. It wasn't invented to cure disease, it was invented to profit off of them. Cut, poison and burn is profitable. Nutrition, exercise and rest? Not so much.
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Nice grim view of the world, but it doesn't reflect reality. Do you honestly believe cancer is a relatively new occurrence?
 
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lotusindigo said:
No, of course not... only the thousands of people who are employed by Apple and all its competitor companies (whose products wouldn't even exist if they weren't competing w/ Apple)... all the developers who make their livelihood creating apps for device platforms... all the people employed by the companies that supply Apple and competitors with materials and parts... all the educational institutions that make money from students wanting to be engineers, programmers, artists for an industry that Apple, more than any other company, helped define... all the businesses, small and large, that take advantage of mobile computing to survive and thrive... all the people employed by social media companies whose popularity soared with the advent of the App Store... all the people whose relationships are enriched by the forms of communication that computers and mobile devices provide, whose jobs and lives are made easier by the apps created for those devices...



Yeah. Steve Jobs... all he did was make some gadgets.
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I'm 110% sure that all of those persons would have pretty much the same lives doing pretty much the same things for some another gadget manufacturer. Not that you can base your argument on a few individuals when you are trying to claim that someone has changed the world. Employing a handful of people does not count as changing the world.

But I'm glad that we agree on Jobs's contribution to society and the world.
 
Derekuda said:
It's ironic that Tim is "remebering Steve" as he is now ruining Steve's once great company. I really don't like Tim.
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Too bad nobody cares about your opinion. Steve liked Tim and put him in charge for a reason.
You should either check Apples sales numbers or the definition of "to ruin something".
 
Derekuda said:
It's ironic that Tim is "remebering Steve" as he is now ruining Steve's once great company. I really don't like Tim.
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Oh my god. The drama here is just precious.

If this your idea of ruining a company, then all companies should be so lucky to be ruined in the same way. Strip away all the emotions and personality worship from the picture and look solely at the quantitative measures, and you'll see that Apple is doing as well or better than it was the day Steve Jobs died. And they've continued to be viewed as the tech company by which all other tech companies are measured.

Yeah, Tim Cook is a walking disaster. :rolleyes:

Seriously, some of you people need to get some perspective.
 
zipa said:
I'm 110% sure that all of those persons would have pretty much the same lives doing pretty much the same things for some another gadget manufacturer. Not that you can base your argument on a few individuals when you are trying to claim that someone has changed the world. Employing a handful of people does not count as changing the world.

But I'm glad that we agree on Jobs's contribution to society and the world.
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We'll have to disagree on the value of providing people with a means to make their livelihood then. If you can't see the immense value in that, then I'm not surprised you couldn't come up with a valid argument to counter mine.

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iBlazed said:
Not sure what that has to do with religion. Everything in nature has a biological reason. It's more about adaptation and evolution than religion...



And we do use them. We call them "modern medicine".


Nice grim view of the world, but it doesn't effect reality. Do you honestly believe cancer is a relatively new occurrence?
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New? No. Exploded in occurrence with the relatively recent changes we've introduced to our environment? Absolutely. Good luck with your big boys.
 
lotusindigo said:
Bwahahahahahah.... :rolleyes:

I love how neither you nor the original poster who claimed that Princess Diana left more of an impact on the world than Steve Jobs did bothered to cite any evidence to support your statements. Wrong people rarely do.
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Best I heard about Princess Diana is she was a royal who stepped outside her political circle and was made to pay for it.

Steve Jobs is a classic American Dream success along the lines of Ely Whiteny, George Corliss, George Westinghouse, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Walt Disney and Robert Noyce.
 
iBlazed said:
No it wasn't, Steve just happened to be wrong on what he thought was the "perfect" screen size of an iPhone. It wouldn't have been the first thing he was wrong on.
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Actually, you're wrong. At the time Steve made his comment what he said was true. Since Asia, especially the Chinese market, has become more critical to Apple's bottom line, they've had to increase the phone size. Why? Because the Asian market prefers larger screen sizes. They don't want to carry around a ~4 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet. They just want device, the phablet. North America is no longer Apple's top priority and they've made adjustments to reflect that.
 
dan110 said:
Actually, you're wrong. At the time Steve made his comment what he said was true. Since Asia, especially the Chinese market, has become more critical to Apple's bottom line, they've had to increase the phone size. Why? Because the Asian market prefers larger screen sizes. They don't want to carry around a ~4 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet. They just want device, the phablet. North America is no longer Apple's top priority and they've made adjustments to reflect that.
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Source?
 
yaxomoxay said:
He wasn't wrong. Back before 2011, that was the correct size. 2014 is different.
1984 Mac was the perfect product for 1984. That doesn't mean that we should still have a b/w display and up to 512k of RAM. Things change, and
Steve's ability was to know where to put his money on.
Even "perfection" evolves.
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Well when we think about it 'perfect' is related to what the purpose is. Smaller iPhones were perfect at the time, 3 years on a bigger screen is more suited. I work in phone store and about 90% of customers coming it don't want the iPhone 6 Plus because it's too big. People still want one handed phones. Even I was set on the plus when announced, since holding it, I'm thinking smaller is better.

It's good Tim is reminding Apple of Steve and what he lived for. :apple:
 
If Tim Cook is "ruining" Apple, when can he head over to my place and "ruin" my finances? :)

The table illustration was brilliant. Apple is a company whose market cap is neck-and-neck with Exxon-Mobil's and yet only sells a few lines of high-tech gadgets that could fit in a 6' diameter circle.

I think Cook will be a good keeper of the Apple flame. After he leaves, however, and a new CEO takes over who had no personal interaction with Jobs? Hmm. Not so sure.
 
iBlazed said:
Yeah, and if apple listened to those people they wouldn't have sold 4 million phones in the first day of preorders because those people are a tiny niche.
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You keep using that word but it doesn't mean what you think it means. That "tiny niche", as you call it, has bought over 500 million iPhones. In what universe do you call this a "niche"?
 
a0me said:
You keep using that word but it doesn't mean what you think it means. That "tiny niche", as you call it, has bought over 500 million iPhones. In what universe do you call this a "niche"?
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Because they wanted iOS but didn't have any other screen size options. I was a part of that 500 million as well. I would have never switched to Android because I personally don't like the OS. However, if given the choice of screen sizes, very few people would pick the 3.5"-4" model. If Apple didn't up the screen size on the 6, I wouldn't have been so quick to upgrade from my 5.
 
He created an amazing company but he was one of the most, if not the most vindictive sociopath to ever run an American company.
 
iBlazed said:
However, if given the choice of screen sizes, very few people would pick the 3.5"-4" model.
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I'd argue that given the choice of screen sizes, very few people would pick the 4.7"-5.5" iPhones. Samsung and other companies have been selling oversized handsets for over 4 years, and yet more and more consumers were still choosing the 3.5"-4" iPhones.
 
miniroll32 said:
Perhaps Walter Isaacson was confused about the Apple TV?

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Photographer: Hey Steve, I want you to pose as if you're thinking intently... Y'know, dreaming up something big.

S.J ...My god, I've cracked it.

Photographer: You've done what now?
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The apple watch is a nice touch.:)
 
And in another 6yrs a chunk of the employees will have to Google who the dead guy they are getting a memo was about.
 
I'm don't like Tim Cook, not that it matters.

I appreciate he has a company to run and profits to deliver, but I can't stand the over emphasising of words and fake enthusiasm at keynotes. He always sounds to forced and false.
 
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