Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Agree. Steve for damn sure would not dedicate nearly an entire keynote (!!!!!!!!!!) to Watch bands (!!!!!) when the entire mac lineup is languishing, sales are down and customers (even Microsoft) asking where the new Macs are.



I don't think that's possible, he's probably comfortable in his chip and apple car roles.


Last keynotes was nearly two hours long and to be honest its getting a bit long for just showing you a few products line the problem is they waffle on to long about things
 
Six Apple CEO's, John Sculley and Steve Jobs were the only two who lasted a minimum of ten years. Most lasted under three years. Tim Cook has the third longest tenure.

Apple never had any competent CEO other than Steve though. Only reason Apple still succeeds with Cook is because Jobs left him the keys to an already established empire. Imagine had Tim took over after Gil Amelio? Steve was the only Apple CEO with any long-term vision. The only one who wanted to think different. The rest are short-sighted and emulate the competition.

Tim isn't the worst Apple CEO. He just isn't Steve though. And when you're not like Steve, it will never be good enough for most people. Just like most people who still associate Bill Gates with Microsoft although he stopped being CEO since 2000. Apple is nothing without Steve Jobs. Microsoft is much worse without Bill Gates. Some CEO's are simply irreplaceable to companies.

Bring back, Scott Forstall.
 
We don't need all these new type of mac line up 3 versions would be prefect or otherwise people wouldn't know what to choose from its like the 12inch version to the 13 inch mac air their hardly any difference between the two the thing is
they are running out of new ideas to bring to the market so that idea is oh we will just make things bigger and smaller
for the next line
 
  • Like
Reactions: dan110
I'd like to know about that how the media on Android will sync with iTunes. The biggest concern is the SMS between iOS and android.

I use a Lenovo Chromebook to get things done and the web apps it has are not that bad. It's a clever device at a cheap $149. I'm surprised how well it has served my needs for the last couple months.

It's actually pretty easy. Just take the songs in your iTunes folder, and drag them over to the "Music" folder on your Android. Since pretty much all music on iTunes is DRM-free now, that should not be an issue and assuming that all of your metadata is correct, that should transfer over as well.

Alternatively, you can upload all of your music to Google Play Music--it should transfer all of your playlists and such from iTunes, as well.

And SMS shouldn't be a problem, as long as iMessage is disabled on your old iPhone! ;)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Pilgrim1099
Tim isn't the worst Apple CEO. He just isn't Steve though. And when you're not like Steve, it will never be good enough for most people. Just like most people who still associate Bill Gates with Microsoft although he stopped being CEO since 2000. Apple is nothing without Steve Jobs. Microsoft is much worse without Bill Gates. Some CEO's are simply irreplaceable to companies.
Bring back, Scott Forstall.

In all fairness, Nadella is pretty good.
 
Apple quadrupled under Tim Cook. He's doing fine. Everyone's a critic these days, but how many of you currently run one of the world's largest and most profitable companies?
Didn't I just say Apple is still profiting? I guess you didn't get what I was saying. I guess people tend to pick and choose.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: dan110 and 44267547
I'm going to agree with your statement.

I'm too deep in the ecosystem to leave.

Mac, apple watch, iPhones, iPad

If just one item was removed, it'd cause issues for me across my devices.

The Samsung Note does intrigue me, but I'm jailed in the walled garden
Same here. I'm annoyed by it too. I would really like to try a galaxy phone, but the some ecosystem has me by the balls. And I really like my Apple watch. So I'm stuck there
 
In all fairness, Nadella is pretty good.
he is good with taking risks and having a vision but he also doesn't have a clear path in mind and Nadella is extremely quick to fire people in the name of "shrinking down" while that's sadly needed sometimes...firing your whole Q&A department and restructuring the R&D team should be some with the utmost caution because the end product will suffer from false decisions there.

Nacelle lacks the basic understanding of what a desktop, notebook user want a and what a smartphone, tablet user needs/wants.

Like someone sad you can never replace the guys who built these behemoths from in their garage. I think Cook should just focus on his job I, keep his political thoughts out of it and fix the lineup. Jobs knew that more isn't better he had his basic lineup and would allow everyone to built it his way by providing some leeway and of course the needed resources.

Ballmer is a coding god but his biggest mistake was trusting Sinovski and not sometimes acting like a clown instead of leading the company like Gates did. Gates would always fire back but never publicly.
 
I really hate the Apple store changes. I was there yesterday and the layout and variety of accessories is horrible. I used to enjoy going, now it's a form of torture.

I don't know who's idea it was to change the Genius Bar to Genius Grove but it's stupid. Companies spend years building branding reputations. I see no advantage to screwing with that when it was working just fine.

I haven't set foot in an Apple store in quite some time. Basically because they don't have anything new to offer that is exciting and gives you a good feeling. The Genius Grove makes me think of orange trees. IMHO, Jony and Angela are not focused on customer expectations but on the whole 'fashion' thing. It seems Angela is trying to make an Appleburry.
 
Steve was a fanatic about the mac, he pushed to make the best mac he could think of. That was a feeling Apple users could feel - what the opposition used to call reality distortion field. But the reality was that Steve loved the mac even more than his fans, and it showed in his efforts and hardware. He also cared about the customers..

Sometimes I wonder..does Tim even love the mac computer? Tim's background is in PCs..., from what I recall the Apple watch was his dream as it was known that he was a big fan of smart watches even when Steve was alive... maybe that is why the watch gets all the attention.

But does Tim love the mac?, does he have visions of how much better the mac can be than the rest?.. or does he think of macs as designer toys, favoring the PC as the true workhorse in his mind?.
 
Sometimes when I read/hear a complaint about the iPhone UI, I'm reminded of Forstall and iOS 6. Man, if I could only share some of the stories of the heated debates on campus - it was very much a civil war between those who liked Forstall's skeuomorphic designs versus simplicity.

"Remember, remember!
The Forstall of Apple,
The skeuomorphic treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the skeuomorphic treason
Should ever be forgot!"

An opinion/thought from someone who observed this as a customer and not an internal employee:

The funny thing is, pre-iOS 7, I thought I had grown to hate skeuomorphic user interfaces. Post-iOS 7, I realized that it wasn't skeuomorph that I disliked, it was poor user interface and design in general.

To put it another way, the same group who made ugly or bad skeuomorph user interfaces is the same group who was/is making ugly or bad flat user interfaces. Skeuomorph was never the problem... It was the designs/designers.

Skeuomorph can be done right, just as flat design can be done right.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 32828870 and dan110
It looks like MR and other forums have touched a raw nerve there at Apple and now he is trying to justify Apple's social issues and non technological push by pretending to talk about future things we couldn't care about.
Again they're still not listening to us. Apple's stock holders need to send them a message that they need a new leadership now.

Touched a raw nerve at Apple... But still not listening to "us." That is so precious.

Based upon the superior insight and tiny rants of a dozen or so people whose lives revolve around daily tech forum postings, Apple must change not just their product development direction and planning, but their executive level positions as well. How adorable!
 
  • Like
Reactions: JosephAW
I haven't set foot in an Apple store in quite some time. Basically because they don't have anything new to offer that is exciting and gives you a good feeling. The Genius Grove makes me think of orange trees. IMHO, Jony and Angela are not focused on customer expectations but on the whole 'fashion' thing. It seems Angela is trying to make an Appleburry.

Visiting an Apple Store is a cold, sterile experience IMO. Every time I have been in one, it's like you're in and then you're immediate out before you even have time to process what just happened to you.
 
Didn't I just say Apple is still profiting? I guess you didn't get what I was saying. I guess people tend to pick and choose.

No, I get what you were saying. Tim and Steve complemented each other, but the reality is that Steve is gone and he cannot be replaced. Tim Cook may not be a visionary the way Steve was, but he's a very competent individual and is doing a good job managing a massive company. That's all I'm saying.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pat500000
No, I get what you were saying. Tim and Steve complemented each other, but the reality is that Steve is gone and he cannot be replaced. Tim Cook may not be a visionary the way Steve was, but he's a very competent individual and is doing a good job managing a massive company. That's all I'm saying.
Yes, they compliment each other. Apple will still manage. And I'm saying is Tim can manage in financial sector....ability to expand. He's a hustler. Good..we are on the same page.
[doublepost=1471228736][/doublepost]
...what does this even mean?
Less talking, more "show me the proof."
 
  • Like
Reactions: Col4bin and dan110
Not saying Steve was perfect. Part of me feels Apple revolutionized the smartphone industry. Another part of me feels Apple RUINED the mobile industry. Fashion over function. Creating this dense fanatics for their god. Similar to Michael Jordan's legacy helping players who came after him choose commerce over conscience, and playing "hero ball" (*cough* Kobe). More about the individual than the entire team. There was also a selfishness to both SJ and MJ I didn't like although that gets glossed over with labeled ultra competitive.

funny-Bill-Gates-donation-Steve-Jobs.jpg


I was reading comments on iPhone screen resolution and I would agree before that 4K is a waste for smartphones. I admit being WRONG and short-sighted with it since I didn't realize QHD should be bare minimum to make VR less pixelated. So yes, I'm all about increasing screen resolution because VR could be another gadget in our rooms to consume media by the 2020's once it matures like touchscreen phones have for the last decade. We will take a hit in battery life, but Samsung has proven with better optimization, their phones with QHD can outlast phones with only 1080p packing bigger batteries.

Apple is still sticking to 750p/1080p. Slow at anticipating the next revolution in technology. Steve didn't have that. Buying Pixar in 1986 was one of the best investments ever. He buys it from George Lucas for $5M, invested about a total of $50M, then Disney buys it for $7.4B. That's foresight. That's picking a longshot and hitting a jackpot. And this was right after Steve got fired from his own company. In 2012, George Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney for only $4B. That's being shortchanged but then he used it for a greater good...

2f281cd390527f561e02cbc6b975ef865fec11ab17ac0525ea611de2832e4e6e.jpg


As a visionary with foresight, I like Steve Jobs. For philanthropy, I prefer Bill Gates and George Lucas. Nobody is perfect. Each men all have their strengths and weaknesses as human beings. We can admire all of them but for different reasons.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 32828870
Very True

Apple has a psychological grip on a vast number of its customers. Believing only Apple and it's ecosystem can meet their needs, many have bought into the myth Steve Jobs promoted "Apple knows what's best for you."

In fact, Apple's real strength is managing it's image and maintaining control of its customers.

Very much agree, this is still Apple`s real strength allowing Apple to sell under performing, uninspring product with significant margins, yet so many fawn over the same.

Q-6
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: maxsix
Ya know....I'm a giant Apple fanboy and I can admit, I'm not impressed at all with what they have been doing lately. The last keynote was so boring it was actually bizarre. Like I can't remember a single keynote in their entire history where I wasn't at least a little bit excited. But this one? I was embarrassed for them. It was like they didn't even make an effort.

And Tim going on the defensive with all these interviews and trying to convince people "hey we still get it. We're doing something! Pay attention to us!" Screams of desperation and hollow promises that lead to absolutely nothing. We heard last year that exciting things were coming and what did we get? A smaller iPad Pro and not a single Mac update. And if rumors are to be believed about the next iPhone, it's gonna be the most boring update in history

I'm just...meh. And I hate feeling like this
 
Yes, they compliment each other. Apple will still manage. And I'm saying is Tim can manage in financial sector....ability to expand. He's a hustler. Good..we are on the same page.
[doublepost=1471228736][/doublepost]
Less talking, more "show me the proof."

The more I think about it, the more I like your analogy. It's true. Steve was horrible at running the company but excellent at charting the course. Tim on the other hand, is extremely good at executing the strategy. That's the missing piece, but then again, Apple has insane talent at all levels of the organization.

Mac line is definitely dated. I couldn't agree more, so let's see what shows up this fall. I'll bet they will have a strong refresh to offer and will get back on track.
 
but they seldom establish a category. That's the way I see it, of course. It's just my opinion.

- iPad has established a new category of tablets computers.
- iPhone has established a new category of mobile phones.
- iPod has established a new category of music mp3 players.
- iMac has established a new category of all-in-one desktop computers.
- Macbook air has established a new category of thin, full keyboard and disc-less laptops.

These are categories that hardly existed before Apple built them. Of course all these categories were created under steve jobs even Apple Watch was conceptualized under jobs now what we are eager to see is for tim cook to create a new category. One more thing a category does not mean an invention of new product rather then transforming it and making it a trend even iconic and of course easy to the extent that people start using the product name to mention a category. Like Kleenex for tissues, iPod for mp3 players and iPads for tablets.
 
In all honesty, this speech screams a prelude to Tim's resignation and possibly retirement. I bet he is hanging around for the new Apple campus to complete, take/steal credit for all the architecture awards, move in for the Spring 2017 product launch and then ride off into the sunset.
That was my first impression as well.
 
The more I think about it, the more I like your analogy. It's true. Steve was horrible at running the company but excellent at charting the course. Tim on the other hand, is extremely good at executing the strategy. That's the missing piece, but then again, Apple has insane talent at all levels of the organization.

Mac line is definitely dated. I couldn't agree more, so let's see what shows up this fall. I'll bet they will have a strong refresh to offer and will get back on track.
respect to you.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.