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This is Apple's way of doing business. Apple gains the ability to have products that are relevant when they are released to market and not just relevant in the prototype stage and years past the tech curve when they are released. This is why Apple adds and removes parts from their products.

It has nothing to do with who likes what. It's about bringing the most cutting edge tech to market and getting the most sales from it.
My answer explained all of this. But I have explained yet further because you asked.

This DOES answer your question. Your choice if you want to accept the answer or not.

actually you havent done anything that can be called explaining.

It has nothing to do with who likes what
what are you referring to here?

This DOES answer your question

which question?

nothing cutting edge was brought to desktops in place of optical drives or ir sensors.

how long have you actually followed apple?
 
actually you havent done anything that can be called explaining.
I have, you just choose to ignore it.

nothing cutting edge was brought to desktops in place of optical drives or ir sensors.
Space saving due to the removal of old tech.

how long have you actually followed apple?
My first Mac was a 512k Macintosh. It was 128k upgraded to 512k. I got that in the late 80's. I have followed Apple ever since. A very offtopic question but I will answer it like every other question you have asked, I adequately answered.
 
I have, you just choose to ignore it.


Space saving due to the removal of old tech.


My first Mac was a 512k Macintosh. It was 128k upgraded to 512k. I got that in the late 80's. I have followed Apple ever since. A very offtopic question but I will answer it like every other question you have asked, I adequately answered.

no you trotted out a line which is sadly brought up whenever there is some critique.

if you think its an engineer marvel to gain space by removing stuff fine. but for it or the mini it would very hard to quantify the actual gain because of that unlike with laptops. i dont think its possible to notice a 3 mm decrease in actual depth. were there a lot of desks that were just too short for the previous version?

It's about bringing the most cutting edge tech to market and getting the most sales

the original imac had a cd drive instead of a floppy drive and it also received a usb port which was a standard and brought huge benefits when the world was previously split with ps/2 and adp. that computer is a prime example of "skating where the puck is going" and apple guiding you there with the new tech. now its just subtraction and selling adapters and optical drives at a premium.

i dont think you can even attribute the 4.3 kg and 3 mm decrease solely to the optical drives and ir sensors. however i cant see what future proof cutting edge tech was added to the imac to offset the lost of those two.

It has nothing to do with who likes what

what are you referring to here?

yes that question could be classified as a bit off topic but i was curious.
 
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no you trotted out a line which is sadly brought up whenever there is some critique.
You are wrong here but we agree to disagree and that's cool

if you think its an engineer marvel to gain space by removing stuff fine. but for it or the mini it would very hard to quantify the actual gain because of that unlike with laptops. i dont think its possible to notice a 3 mm decrease in actual depth. were there a lot of desks that were just too short for the previous version?
Overall for desktops no. But it is incremental over time The iMacs of today are so much lighter than the original fruity iMacs of the 2000's. Much easier to move around and easier to ship cause of the lighter weights. Past that not too much gained.

Notebooks on the other hand, lots to be gained. Squeezing more battery into that few mm gained does matter as shown in the latest keynote.

the original imac had a cd drive instead of a floppy drive and it also received a usb port which was a standard and brought huge benefits when the world was previously split with ps/2 and adp. that computer is a prime example of "skating where the puck is going" and apple guiding you there with the new tech. now its just subtraction and selling adapters and optical drives at a premium.
Exactly. And the cost to keep supporting legacy tech is a pointless expense really.

yes that question could be classified as a bit off topic but i was curious.
That's cool :)
 
You are wrong here but we agree to disagree and that's cool


Overall for desktops no. But it is incremental over time The iMacs of today are so much lighter than the original fruity iMacs of the 2000's. Much easier to move around and easier to ship cause of the lighter weights. Past that not too much gained.

Notebooks on the other hand, lots to be gained. Squeezing more battery into that few mm gained does matter as shown in the latest keynote.


Exactly. And the cost to keep supporting legacy tech is a pointless expense really.


That's cool :)

i am wrong that you used a metaphor that is used far too often and most of the time without any context or knowledge of history?

obviously they are getting lighter and easier to ship (differently shaped packaging as well) which should give apple the option of lowering the price. but as i said in my last post and im sure you agree that an ir sensor and optical drive did not add up to a big portion of the 4.3 kg weight loss (27" model btw).

how can something be called legacy when nothing has really supplanted it yet? if anything apple in this case is skating from where the puck was without being sure where it will end up.

the solution for owners of apple remotes is to either buy a ir usb dongle, bluetooth remote or use wifi because a tiny $1 board is obsolete?

various solutions have approached supplanting optical discs (btw im drinking the apple koolaid and ignoring that bluray discs actually exist) in different ways but the 2 biggest things are probably increased internet speeds and hard drive prices which apple has zero influence over and their decision making will make no difference on either of those two markets.

obviously i think optical drives should be/have been removed eventually from desktops but as i said in one of my previous posts its all about timing. there are lots of things you could remove because they puck will eventually end up in a different spot.

today is a very different world than 3-4 years ago but i still question whether the gain is worth the loss at present with the mini and imac. we will probably disagree on that one.
 
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