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I never cared for Apple's News app or whatever. Any source of information that's "curated" will have a bias one way or another. People have lost the ability to think critically and make up their own mind. Most people with strong opinions are just regurgitating whatever they were spoon fed from their "source" of choice. Whether it's right wing or left wing.

People prefer to be led, as opposed to thinking for themselves and having informed opinions. When I research a given position I have, my first stop is sources or opinions that are different than the one I hold. I want my opinion or position to be proved "wrong". I want to hear what the "other side" has to say. I want to form an informed and well thought out position. And I take everything I read with a grain of salt. Just calling it "news" doesn't mean it's credible. I mean, it worked in the Soviet Union for a while until people realized there was no news in Pravda, and no truth in Izvestia.


And people will fight to the BONE over their viewpoint. Whatever viewpoint they've latched on to and never give an inch. Never say "Hmm, maybe I should look into this on my own". Just take a position like they're rooting for the hometown football team and that's IT. No give or take.

Is it possible that Apple News curators are as "smart" as you... maybe, just maybe? And that the presented stories are the result of critical thinking and balanced assessment of their sources?

That's what I get from Apple News, but I only listen to the 15-minute daily podcast. Reading the articles in the app might be a different experience.
 
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Sounds like the FTC wants to make sure the real facts get shared with Americans
lol. Just looking at the picture. I didn’t realize Mexico has three countries. Hot dog.

Maybe they need to hire some new proofreaders. Cause it should have probably said, 3 Latin American Countries.

I need more money and a good lawyer to start filing lawsuits against these idiots.
 
How about a simple choice menu? Indicate which news sources you want to follow? Also: doesn't Apple Pay those news sources for the aggregated news?
If they keep it around then yes put the user in full control and the choices to select from randomly shuffled. But were I Apple I’d drag to the trash and pivot the company to a hardware innovation and function with a software quality focus.
 
Is it possible that Apple News curators are as "smart" as you... maybe, just maybe? And that the presented stories are the result of critical thinking and balanced assessment of their sources?

That's what I get from Apple News, but I only listen to the 15-minute daily podcast. Reading the articles in the app might be a different experience.

You put smart in quotes as though I described myself as "smart" and I never did.
 
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Just take a position like they're rooting for the hometown football team and that's IT.
Didn’t see your post first as I was still composing my own, but this, the sportsification of ideology, is the most stomach-turning part of it all for me.

We have people who literally wear uniforms, fly flags, and wrap their cars for their “team”. Grown adults who make their “team” a foundational pillar of their entire identity and social group.

Providing these people information that contradicts their pre-existing beliefs and “what they’ve seen” with a not statistically significant, self-selecting sample size of 1 makes actual evidence either invisible or compromised to them. Changing their mind on anything isn’t simply asking them to admit they’re wrong…it’s asking them to deny their entire sense of self.

That’s why they can’t be reasoned with. Lost causes.
 
Apple News is clearly heavily left leaning, like 90% of mainstream media, but you can just choose not to use it. It is disappointing that it is so lame, but that's the way it goes. I am not a fan of the government pressure. I would prefer the market to just continue ignoring it. Terrible ratings is the best way to deal with biased content.
In the UK we have only two daily papers not owned by billionaires with a right wing, Murdoch style, agenda.
 
Speaking as a Briton, it’s about time! We aren’t allowed to say certain things, else we may get arrested. Apple are manipulating the news, and it should stop.
Are you wise? There’s absolutely nothing you can’t say in my country.

However if you’ve
Incited racial hatred
Incited murder
Slandered someone
Incited a hate crime

Prepare to accept that you’re a criminal and you’re going to court.

Oh and if you choose to do a little racism, be an adult, accept that you’re a racist.

Really simple rules actually.
 
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In a letter to Apple CEO Tim Cook, seen by the Financial Times, FTC chairman Andrew Ferguson cites recent press coverage of a report from conservative media watchdog Media Research Center (MRC), which claimed that Apple has promoted "leftist outlets" in its content choices.
Is Tim Cook going to have to give Andrew Ferguson one of these?

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Ironic that it was Reagan himself who abolished, through veto, the FCC's Fairness Doctrine. Even great presidents can get things wrong.
The Fairness Doctrine was a fundamentally flawed, complete joke.

It’s better for society as a whole that a news story about the earth’s revolution around the sun and rotation on its own axis and how that affects weather patterns wouldn’t have to provide a “contrasting viewpoint” with “equal time” talking about a glass-domed flat earth has governments with machines that can juice the weather to increase the severity of natural disasters to push a “narrative” or “agenda”.

For those who might be thinking, “c’mon, that’s a ridiculous example and an appeal to extremes,” I’d say…have you read (especially books, not social media posts) much lately? These days, that example isn’t extreme.

The evidence-free so-called “other side” of many issues shouldn’t even be dignified with an acknowledgement, let alone equal time.

On the plus side, I have found a personal silver lining and useful time-saving heuristic in the relatively recent explosion of the use of the word “narrative” as a shorthand for “I don’t believe what you just said, therefore it isn’t true”. Once I see someone break that term out in a discussion about any subject, I know there is nothing to be gained from remaining in that discussion or continuing it.
 
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Fitness+ come to mind which should just be cancelled.
Just one simple question: for what length of time have you personally used Fitness+?

Edit: To be clear, I have zero interest in debating you (or anyone else) on the merits—or lack thereof—of Fitness+, especially when this thread isn’t about that.

I’m simply curious what level of first-hand experience—if any—played a part in your assessment/conclusion, that’s all.
 
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Daily Mail, Breitbart?

These are not serious news sources. Come on.

I tend to highly curate my Apple News with much more central derived news sources. Which means I don't want a steady diet of Breitbart OR Daily Beast
 
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He is not dealing with rational people, he is dealing with people acting like mafiosos, who will come to your store with baseball bats and break everything including your knees.
“You’ve got a pretty nice stock price, here.

…it’d be a shame if something happened to it.”
 
It is amusing to me that when it is "Conservatives" who are being censored, it is the Liberals and Left-leaning users who want them to continue to be silenced, but when it is the other way around, the Liberals and Leftists are screeching endlessly. I don't think anyone should be 'censored'. Let people come up to their own conclusions. Liberal bias is clear in most news and media outlets.
 
I never cared for Apple's News app or whatever. Any source of information that's "curated" will have a bias one way or another. People have lost the ability to think critically and make up their own mind. Most people with strong opinions are just regurgitating whatever they were spoon fed from their "source" of choice. Whether it's right wing or left wing.

People prefer to be led, as opposed to thinking for themselves and having informed opinions. When I research a given position I have, my first stop is sources or opinions that are different than the one I hold. I want my opinion or position to be proved "wrong". I want to hear what the "other side" has to say. I want to form an informed and well thought out position. And I take everything I read with a grain of salt. Just calling it "news" doesn't mean it's credible. I mean, it worked in the Soviet Union for a while until people realized there was no news in Pravda, and no truth in Izvestia.


And people will fight to the BONE over their viewpoint. Whatever viewpoint they've latched on to and never give an inch. Never say "Hmm, maybe I should look into this on my own". Just take a position like they're rooting for the hometown football team and that's IT. No give or take.

You know you're on the right track when you think everyone else is stupid.

You put smart in quotes as though I described myself as "smart" and I never did.

It's almost as if some of the "sheeple" are able to read between the lines. As an aside, quotation marks aren't just for direct quotes.
 
The Fairness Doctrine was a fundamentally flawed, complete joke.

It’s better for society as a whole that a news story about the earth’s revolution around the sun and rotation on its own axis and how that affects weather patterns wouldn’t have to provide a “contrasting viewpoint” with “equal time” talking about a glass-domed flat earth has governments with machines that can juice the weather to increase the severity of natural disasters to push a “narrative” or “agenda”.

For those who might be thinking, “c’mon, that’s a ridiculous example and an appeal to extremes,” I’d say…have you read (especially books, not social media posts) much lately? These days, that example isn’t extreme.

The evidence-free so-called “other side” of many issues shouldn’t even be dignified with an acknowledgement, let alone equal time.

On the plus side, I have found a personal silver lining and useful time-saving heuristic in the relatively recent explosion of the use of the word “narrative” as a shorthand for “I don’t believe what you just said, therefore it isn’t true”. Once I see someone break that term out in a discussion about any subject, I know there is nothing to be gained from remaining in that discussion or continuing it.
I get your point but I think your argument is flawed because it suffers from what is called reductio ad absurdum which can almost always be remedied. At the extremes, many policies can suffer undesirable outcomes. But a prudently crafted policy that requires what are essentially "public square" type platforms to strive to be impartial is sound public policy. Otherwise, those platforms risk falling into the trap of being political propaganda tools.
 
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