Finally something I agree with Cook on. System diversity is a powerful thing as it allows us to swiftly accomplish on some systems things that would be ludicrously difficult on others. To try to make one model fit all is likely to drive users who need those differences to other platforms.
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Tim Cook Insists Merging Mac and iPad Would Result in Compromises
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Strip this bean counter of his CEO title
Always defending and explaining things like the price of iPhone X and equating it to cups of coffee
And now doubling down on iPad and Mac needing to be separate. There goes the rumor ios 12/10.14 merging features and app compatibility.
Or does it? Is he saying this now but he’ll change his mind after WWDC?
One thing is for sure Apple is dead. It’s just a rotting corpse with lipstick on and lack of decent competition (having one competing platform, Android, isnt enough for either of them to be incentivized to innovate)
Always defending and explaining things like the price of iPhone X and equating it to cups of coffee
And now doubling down on iPad and Mac needing to be separate. There goes the rumor ios 12/10.14 merging features and app compatibility.
Or does it? Is he saying this now but he’ll change his mind after WWDC?
One thing is for sure Apple is dead. It’s just a rotting corpse with lipstick on and lack of decent competition (having one competing platform, Android, isnt enough for either of them to be incentivized to innovate)
You have never seen anyone use a Surface with the stylus?
I do seem to recall hearing him say a year or two ago that the iPad Pro was going to replace my laptop, no? Or am I mis-remembering that? He seems to have changed his mind.
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound. I don’t care about my “notch” as it serves a fundamental purpose
Yeah, Apple is not going to merge the Mac and iPad. What they'll do is add most of the Mac features to iOS and then neglect the Mac even more until it's dead. At least that's their behavioral trend. Makes no sense to me either, especially when an iMac Pro sells for $5k but an iPad Pro is $800. They're turning into a consumer gadgets company instead of a computer company. Sad.
So, unified device is not worth the compromise, but thinness is worth compromising battery life, repair-ability, keyboard ergonomics, and port selection. Get a better excuse Tim.
Completely agree with this. iOS is really handicapped, and really limits your ability to do anything meaningful. Sure it has it’s niches, but OS X is where anything meaningful gets done. That being said, I think there is no reason why OS X can’t have a touch screen, and depending on what you are doing, it could be useful.. It’s just a fear that everyone would stop buying their iPads.
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I consider the iPad a media consumption device, and the Macbook a productivity device. Two different things.
Tim is saying the os’es shouldn’ t merge, and that is where i agree.
But he could actually be saying:
-we want apps to merge and will provide tools for that at wwdc 2018 so developers will develop a version for the iphone and ipad that is touchscreen enabled/optimized, but also have a mac version optimized for keyboard/mouse and touchbar.
-we can even make this easier by releasing an arm based mac(book) with an arm based macOS.
-there can be a posibility to make a detachable/hybrid between an ipad and macbook , that when no keyboard and trackpad housing is attached the ipad would run in ios(touch) mode and when the keyboard/trackpad is connected touch is disabled and it will run in macOS mode.
He actually isn’ t saying anything about new HW, but the principle of not merging IOS with MacOS. And i agree.
But he could actually be saying:
-we want apps to merge and will provide tools for that at wwdc 2018 so developers will develop a version for the iphone and ipad that is touchscreen enabled/optimized, but also have a mac version optimized for keyboard/mouse and touchbar.
-we can even make this easier by releasing an arm based mac(book) with an arm based macOS.
-there can be a posibility to make a detachable/hybrid between an ipad and macbook , that when no keyboard and trackpad housing is attached the ipad would run in ios(touch) mode and when the keyboard/trackpad is connected touch is disabled and it will run in macOS mode.
He actually isn’ t saying anything about new HW, but the principle of not merging IOS with MacOS. And i agree.
Exactly. This is why I'm shocked so many Apple fanboys think today's MacBook Pros are great laptops. They're already watered down and becoming more and more like glorified tablets.
They sell hundreds of millions of iOS devices in a year, and 25 million macs. They get most of their profits from iOS, not mac. Price isn't the issue.
I personally don't believe Cook because he's watering down the Mac: for example he got rid of MagSafe, one of the best innovations ever created for a corded appliance. MagSafe is not like horse-and-buggy, tube television, floppy drives, etc. MagSafe will always be relevant for corded appliances even in a million years from now.
Tim Cook “We would also like to add, that with this new iPhone announcement, Apple has also become the foremost leader in dongle sales”
Wrong.
1) devices have been getting lighter and lighter, meaning magsafe is less and less useful since the magnet either is too strong and doesn't disconnect, or too weak and disconnects too easily. It works better for heavier devices that have more inertia.
2) in a million years appliances won't be corded.
So yes, he still sees the iPad as his main device, and only uses the Mac when he absolutely has to for work. Considering Apple's treatment of the Mac (all you have to do is look at the last MacOS Server update and the state of the Mac mini to get a feel for it), that's probably the least surprising thing in the interview.
I'm starting to turn into one of the "Steve Jobs would have never let this happen" folks, simply because it has become impossible to ignore the change in Apple's treatment of the Mac since his passing.
I haven’t. I forgot the surface even had one to begin with. The only styluses I see today are for iPads, DSs, and Galaxy Notes
Then make the laptop a real computer. Give the MacBook Pro real ports. Its really convenient how thin mine is but I would be happier if it was thicker with a better battery and a real keyboard.
Good thing Apple has that requirement completed. What should they work on next?
Can Tim stop talking about that and start talking about the updated Mac mini instead?
Apple CEO Tim Cook remains against the idea of merging the Mac and iPad to create one unified hardware and software experience, according to a brief conversation he had at Apple's education event in Chicago last month.
"We don't believe in sort of watering down one for the other," said Cook, speaking with The Sydney Morning Herald's Peter Wells. "One of the reasons that both of them are incredible is because we pushed them to do what they do well. And if you begin to merge the two ... you begin to make trade offs and compromises."
"So maybe the company would be more efficient at the end of the day, but that's not what it's about," he added. "It's about giving people things that they can then use to help them change the world or express their passion or express their creativity. So this merger thing that some folks are fixated on, I don't think that's what users want."
Cook reiterated that he generally uses a Mac at work, and uses an iPad at home and for travel, but added "I use everything and I love everything."
Apple's boss also revealed that an Apple IIc, released in 1984, was his first computer. "I first used it for a project, as a senior in engineering school, making an inventory control program or for a rental business that was close by," said Cook, who majored in industrial engineering at Auburn University.
Cook's comments echo those he shared with the Irish Independent in 2015, when he said Apple is not interested in creating a "converged Mac and iPad."
"What that would wind up doing, or what we're worried would happen, is that neither experience would be as good as the customer wants. So we want to make the best tablet in the world and the best Mac in the world. And putting those two together would not achieve either. You'd begin to compromise in different ways."
While the Mac and iPad will remain distinct products, Apple has and will continue to bridge the gap between its desktop and mobile platforms. In 2014, for example, it introduced Continuity features like Handoff and Universal Clipboard that enable more seamless experiences across Mac, iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch.
Apple may go one step further in iOS 12 and macOS 10.14, as Bloomberg's Mark Gurman recently reported that developers will be able to design a single third-party app that works with both a touchscreen, and a mouse or trackpad, depending on whether it's running on an iPhone, iPad, or Mac, starting later this year.
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I have a feeling he's saying just mashing them together now would result in compromises but when that red circled calender date in Cupertino is upon us he'll take to the stage to proudly announce Apple, and oh boy only Apple, have solved those compromises. Thank you Tim.