Why does everyone think that Apple wants to crush the competition. Google and Amazon's business model is to sell their hardware for zero profit. Not sure if Apple wants to compete at that level. I am sure they are happy to leave the lower price range for Google and Amazon and just carve out their mid tier range. There is room in this space for multiple products at different price points. BMW could also crush Toyota if they reduced their prices, but it would be a no win for both companies.
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Tim Cook: iPad Mini Priced 'Aggressively'
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Why does everyone think that Apple wants to crush the competition. Google and Amazon's business model is to sell their hardware for zero profit. Not sure if Apple wants to compete at that level. I am sure they are happy to leave the lower price range for Google and Amazon and just carve out their mid tier range. There is room in this space for multiple products at different price points. BMW could also crush Toyota if they reduced their prices, but it would be a no win for both companies.
I really was just saying thanks!
I think you must have read my comment wrong?
I have loved my iPad and we have become especially close during the past 6ish weeks since my iMac's video card died and my iPad has been my only device (apart from my iPhone).
Going back to me noticing stuttering ... I never noticed it before today, funny enough. I created a new folder in my bookmarks and added bookmarks for a bunch of London/UK newspapers and it appears to be these sites which cause the stuttering. But they are littered with live advertisements and embedded video so it is now obvious what caused the stuttering.
When viewing the Apple UK site it was stuttering and reloading stuff as I was scrolling up & down ... BUT, this was when I also had one of these newspapers open in another tab. After I cleared all cache & history in Safari's setting, things are now smooth again.
It is a known fact that newspapers make the majority of their money (and sometimes all of their in money) from advertising, so there you go!
Also, my router is in another room and my signal is fluctuating between full & 2 bars so you might just be right with regards to WiFi issues. My router is very fast but if the full signal is not making it to my iPad then this will also have an effect on browsing etc.
Nice one ...
Edit: narrowed the issue down to one particular newspaper's site (which I won't name) and I have removed its bookmark.
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I get it
I was hoping for $279, $299 myself, but more for the competition than what i myself would pay.
I get suspicious of opinions on here that are simply looking for shock value.
Tim Cook's comments are fairly smart...it acknowledges that he "gets it," that there are tablets out there for $159-199, but reminds us that the experience is different. It would have been stranger if he implied that Apple has blinders on in regard to the competition. It is relatively newsworthy to know that their margin is lower than other products. What percentage lower would actually raise eyebrows, I don't know...10% less margin? 20% less margin?
I think that the diamond bezel and thinner borders are fairly amazing...for me it would be a real selling point. I also think that some people just need something a touch smaller....hold it in one hand, fit in a backpack or purse, carry it with them...versus the larger iPad that is.
If anything is odd to me, it's that it's not that much smaller. 9.7 to 7.9 almost doesn't look mini. It must be that they thought, "what would actually make the iPad mini work as a smaller unit...well, it should fit in one hand nicely. Then, lets make it as large as we can, and still fit it into one hand."
I wonder if future larger iPads might start cutting the borders down, too. What if the same 9.7" iPad gets the diamond bezel and tighter borders. That would be kinda cool.
I was hoping for $279, $299 myself, but more for the competition than what i myself would pay.
I get suspicious of opinions on here that are simply looking for shock value.
Tim Cook's comments are fairly smart...it acknowledges that he "gets it," that there are tablets out there for $159-199, but reminds us that the experience is different. It would have been stranger if he implied that Apple has blinders on in regard to the competition. It is relatively newsworthy to know that their margin is lower than other products. What percentage lower would actually raise eyebrows, I don't know...10% less margin? 20% less margin?
I think that the diamond bezel and thinner borders are fairly amazing...for me it would be a real selling point. I also think that some people just need something a touch smaller....hold it in one hand, fit in a backpack or purse, carry it with them...versus the larger iPad that is.
If anything is odd to me, it's that it's not that much smaller. 9.7 to 7.9 almost doesn't look mini. It must be that they thought, "what would actually make the iPad mini work as a smaller unit...well, it should fit in one hand nicely. Then, lets make it as large as we can, and still fit it into one hand."
I wonder if future larger iPads might start cutting the borders down, too. What if the same 9.7" iPad gets the diamond bezel and tighter borders. That would be kinda cool.
People will stop complaining when they go buy their android tablet because it is cheaper and realise that they should have paid the extra $50 to get 3 times the tablet they just bought.
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Then they would have to lower the iPod price ranges too. Think about the difference in quality between a Samsung tablet and an iPad then think about the price difference. I know which one I'd choose.
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Then they would have to lower the iPod price ranges too. Think about the difference in quality between a Samsung tablet and an iPad then think about the price difference. I know which one I'd choose.
They're sell a billion
It would be nice to make the price lower, but Apple sells things. For a profit.
And Google and Amazon are selling at or below cost. In the old days, this was called "unfair competition." As it is, really.
And Apple, which wants to make money selling things, looks like it's greedy. To a bunch of chumps.
It would be nice to make the price lower, but Apple sells things. For a profit.
And Google and Amazon are selling at or below cost. In the old days, this was called "unfair competition." As it is, really.
And Apple, which wants to make money selling things, looks like it's greedy. To a bunch of chumps.
The low-res iPad mini screen is the only thing I don't like. $21 extra is totally worth it to have an ad-free, superior (in most ways) device.
As for the whole "lame camera" thing, that's a lame argument. I doubt you've ever used one, but the 5MP spec is not lame, so that's all you have to go by. And plenty of people use the back camera. I've actually never seen very many people use the FaceTime camera.
The main selling point is it is half the weight and still an iPad experience. I love my 3 but I have been complaining about that extra weight over iPad 2 is very noticeable and unpleasant since day 1
Strong comments from Tim, yes. And bully for him. But I wish Apple leadership would shut up about it already. More statements will just cause doubt over their confidence in the price and the product; like a politician repeating a talking point, and I know we've all had it with that! The number isn't an issue unless everyone agrees its an issue (and obviously Tim doesn't).
But if we're really (mostly) Apple fans, let's do our part and stop the whining about the price. The iPad Mini is the sexiest, highest quality tablet of its size in the entire market. Everyone who's held one knows it. We all know it. Shouldn't that cost a premium? Everything else is quibbling over specs. No one is indignant when a high-end anything is priced ahead of the pack, except when it comes to computers where for some incomprehensible reason people feel that price should follow specs alone, otherwise it's greedy gouging.
Frankly I'd be less irritated about iPad Mini pricing and more irritated about a new iPad only 6 months after the previous one. Remember the $200 iPhone price drop brouhaha, Tim? Making something much better or much cheaper so soon is almost egregiously shorter than anyone would typically upgrade, and is not cool.
But if we're really (mostly) Apple fans, let's do our part and stop the whining about the price. The iPad Mini is the sexiest, highest quality tablet of its size in the entire market. Everyone who's held one knows it. We all know it. Shouldn't that cost a premium? Everything else is quibbling over specs. No one is indignant when a high-end anything is priced ahead of the pack, except when it comes to computers where for some incomprehensible reason people feel that price should follow specs alone, otherwise it's greedy gouging.
Frankly I'd be less irritated about iPad Mini pricing and more irritated about a new iPad only 6 months after the previous one. Remember the $200 iPhone price drop brouhaha, Tim? Making something much better or much cheaper so soon is almost egregiously shorter than anyone would typically upgrade, and is not cool.
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Apple, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc are all dumping. It's unfair how the big companies can just kill smaller ones off by offering services that make them lose money. Google is the biggest offender here, but Apple does it a little too.
I'm pretty sure they are relating to devices that just sit in a desk drawer and collect dust, which has little to do with upgrading a device for the next model.
their R&d and overhead must be real high
Varies, it will be very high if they can't sell the device.
It's amortized over the number of units sold.
Although it's almost 20% smaller, I bet the cost of building a 7.9-inch iPad is not that much cheaper than building a 9.7-inch iPad. Apple's margins are probably a lot tighter for the mini.
I could see them offering this iPad mini for $299 or some reduced price when they come out with a Retina display version of the mini. Kind of like how they kept the iPad 2 around when the iPad 3 came out.
It's the Internet so I know I shouldn't be, but I'm pretty shocked by how many people don't seem to understand the difference between specs and user experience and price vs value; especially since this is an Apple-related site.
At the end of the day, the mini will most likely fly off the shelves resulting in monster backlogs, and all this chatter about the mini being too expensive will soon be forgotten and its superior value will become self-evident to all but the extreme haters.
At the end of the day, the mini will most likely fly off the shelves resulting in monster backlogs, and all this chatter about the mini being too expensive will soon be forgotten and its superior value will become self-evident to all but the extreme haters.
I don't have to tell you. You just can look by yourself.
You're absolutely clueless and you didn't answer his question. Better build quality and better software beats a faster processor.
Thank you! I care more about size than portability.
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299 is cheaper than Amazons 8" tab.