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The iPad mini can't be cheaper because the iPod Touch is over priced @ $299. You can't sell a device with a larger screen for less money! The iPod Touch should be $199 and the iPad mini around $250
I think you hit the nail on the head.
 
I disagree Timmy boy

But I expect nothing less than you to defend your company's price points regardless.

Absolutely, Who gives a sh** about this "GREAT" and "NOT CHEAP" iDevice, if you use it only for reading (note: every single "word" at apple comes from Marketing team so it's understandable ;) )
 
My 64GB retina iPad is crammed to the gills with apps, and I haven't noticed any performance issues. I'm not sure what your issues are.

I also have a 64 gig which is loaded up with apps & music.

I notice sometimes that animations such as opening folders or sliding to Spotlight can appear a bit jerky.

Flying around some websites (namely news sites) on Safari appears very jerky, but then again I suppose they are crammed with advertisements.

However ... I'll bet that the 4th gen iPad will not stutter on such sites, regardless of how many advertisements are present.

Also, developers will undoubtably be developing with the 4th gen iPad in mind now so you can guarantee that things will only get worse from here in.

I think we will all (3rd gen iPad owners) start to notice stuttering more now that this has been pointed out.

It's much like a dead or stuck pixel ... if you don't know it's there, it won't bother you. However, once you find it, you can never seem to simply "forget" it and it constantly bugs you!

I've swayed from being completely shocked by the announcement of the 4th gen iPad, to wanting to get one, to not being bothered, to thinking now that I'll give this to my mum and just go and buy a 4th gen?

But ... will there be yet another refresh in Feb as per "usual"?
 
What I still fail to understand is the iPod touch pricing. The iPad mini isn't ridiculously high priced or anything, but the touch sure is.

Nothing to understand. Apple prices what the market will bear. If people stop buying the iPod Touch the price will drop in a hurry.
 
At the end of the day, I'm sure Apple knows best about what it's doing and how they want to price things, as weird as the prices may seem to us.

Who knows, maybe they're pricing it based on the supply they can deliver over the next year and know they'll all sell without problem. And then next year they'll have the newer iPod touch at 199 and iPad mini at 249 to continually extend to more of the market.
 
During Apple's fourth quarter earnings call today, CEO Tim Cook explained the company's pricing philosophy for the iPad mini in some detail. The following is a portion of our rough transcript:

Article Link: Tim Cook: iPad Mini Priced "Aggressively" A: When we set out to build it, we didn't set out to build a small, cheap tablet. We set out to build a smaller iPad that offered the full iPad experience. The difference between us and the competition is profound. 35% larger screen than 7" tablets. 2 great cameras. Fastest communications with dual bank Wi-Fi. Fit and finish of our precision enclosure is breathtaking when held in your hands. That's what we've done, the iPad mini has higher costs and gross margin is significantly below our corporate average. Height of the cost curve, but we want to make a large number and we're going to work to try to get down the cost curve and get more efficient with manufacturing as we've done with our other products.

One of the things we try to do is to create a product that people will love for months and years and continue using. That's what iPad Mini is designed to do. You can see that more broadly on iPad by looking at the usage statistics. Over 90% of web traffic from tablets is from iPads. Apple will not make a product that somebody may feel good about for the moment, but then won't use when they get home. That's not the experience we want our customers to have. I would encourage you to use an iPad mini and I don't think you'd be using anything other than an iPad once you do that.

As long as APPLE sticks to that philosophy, their continued success is pretty well guaranteed.
 
Worse than that, who is the person that can afford the top end iPad 4 with all the bells and whistles, but still foregoes the iPad 4 and opts for the base model mini?
I'm one of those. Here's why. I've bought 3 iPads so far none for myself. 1 for my dad(iPad 2), daughter iPad 2 and 3. I don't need and iPad but I want one. So $329 is a no brainier for me. I will probably buy 3 or 4 by the end of the year.
 
Nothing to understand. Apple prices what the market will bear. If people stop buying the iPod Touch the price will drop in a hurry.

I wonder if they're really planning on selling many touches at that price. Seems more like price anchoring to establish relative value of things like a mini iPad.
 
The iPad mini can't be cheaper because the iPod Touch is over priced @ $299. You can't sell a device with a larger screen for less money! The iPod Touch should be $199 and the iPad mini around $250

And you're basing that on what exactly?
 
Perfect size

Not sure why some of you think it's not a good size...
I'll be travelling around europe next year for 6 months, and it will be the right size to check maps, skype/facetime my family, read emails, browse the web etc.

I have an Iphone 4, but the screen is a little small for easy web use.
The ipad retina is way too big to travel with, and my brand new 15" macbook pro is way too expensive to travel with. Non apple products don't have iOS and the app store, I've been happy with the iphone 4.

Having said that, it is a little expensive so I'll try get a 2nd hand one next year. Not having retina? oh well. It's still got a decent resolution and higher PPI.

I'm not sure on the cellular or wifi model...I guess most places have wifi and It'll be more fun NOT constantly being connected to everyone I know back at home.
 
the old adage is so true.

You get what you pay for.

If you want cheap crap then go buy those $200 tablets and enjoy the great experience and quality. :rolleyes:
 
the old adage is so true.

You get what you pay for.

If you want cheap crap then go buy those $200 tablets and enjoy the great experience and quality. :rolleyes:

Have you actually looked at the Nexus 7? It is anything but poor quality.
 
I noticed how they talk about the screen being larger on a device that is suppose to be smaller, it is not suppose to be THAT close to an iPad along with being larger it has a lower resolution screen. Once it has a retina screen and a couple other things the pricing will make more sense.
 
In New Zealand there is only a $50 different between the 16Gb iPad Mini and the 16Gb Nexus 7.
Just looked the NZ iPad and Nexus prices. Wow the Nexus very expensive in NZ. Recently Apple has been good at setting the NZ and AU price only slightly above the US price (after adding GST). It seems almost certain that there will be a Nexus update in the next week, hopefully Google will update the NZ price to be more reasonable.
 
Yes, the iPad Mini is a beautiful device.

I still won't buy one until it's upgraded with a retina display and A6X processor.

After all, if the smaller iPod Touch can benefit from the premier display and the iPhone 5 from the more powerful chip, why not the iPad Mini?

You need at least 4 iPod touch screens to equal one iPad mini screen. The cost would not be 4x greater but more than 2x greater. In the future iPad mini may have retina, but for now to keep pricing down and margins up, Apple must go with lower resolution. If they started at $399 and 8 GB you might get retina.
 
I will be purchasing an iPad mini and many are asking why someone would, so I will give my reason. I purchased the original iPad and have not upgraded since. I do love my iPad and I still use it quite a bit, but don't use it quite as much as I initially thought I would and the battery life has gotten quite bad. I certainly don't use it enough to replace my MacBook Pro and it still can't replace my iPhone. Since it can't replace one of my devices and the iPad is more of a "luxury" item to own, I can't justify myself spending more than I would for something like an iPod or roughly $300. The retina iPad is well over this limit and the iPad 2 is further from that price point for the same thing with only a slightly bigger screen. I don't really use my iPad for movies so that slight difference in screen size is not a big deal to me. So basically I end up with an improved device over my original iPad for a reasonably priced luxury item that I know will be dependable and likely last another 2+ years without issue.
 
You need at least 4 iPod touch screens to equal one iPad mini screen. The cost would not be 4x greater but more than 2x greater. In the future iPad mini may have retina, but for now to keep pricing down and margins up, Apple must go with lower resolution. If they started at $399 and 8 GB you might get retina.

Maybe the $399 not the 8GB because that cost has not been an issue for some time, if we can buy memory from 8GB to 16GB for five dollars I am sure Apple gets it for a good discount. I see the screen as being a much larger issue.
 
I laugh at the quote of apple saying they want to make products that aren't just appealing in the moment, meanwhile we have articles here describing how droves of people rush to ditch their previous generation device when a new one comes out, even if only a few months have passed.

Well, there's always idiots that love Apple devices a little too much.
 
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