Buy a printer and it will need setting up to a WiFi network. You can't do that on a tablet or a smartphone. Then how do you maintain your tablet and smartphone? You need a pc or Mac.
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Tim Cook: iPad Pro Will Replace Notebooks and Desktops for 'Many, Many People'
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Buy a printer and it will need setting up to a WiFi network. You can't do that on a tablet or a smartphone. Then how do you maintain your tablet and smartphone? You need a pc or Mac.
Some people have indeed replaced their computers with iPads, but how many MORE are going to do so because there's now a bigger iPad? That is, how many can get by with an iPad pro as their main device who couldn't have gotten by with an iPad air 2?
How do you install a clean iOS update onto your iPad pro without a pc or Mac? How can you do iTunes backups?
Most people here haven't a clue that millions upon millions of customers surf the web, check email, say hello to lovd ones, watch a movie and go to bed. Repeat and rinse. That's who Tim Cook is embracing, besides the obvious hundreds of industries the new iPad Pro can leverage as either an extension or first use device. The iPad Pro will reinvigorate the iPad line. Everyone realizes by now that CAD/CAM industries can truly use this device. Complex Power Systems to Manufacturing Control Systems automation software suites, you name it. If you cannot see it you are not in any of these industries.
Good point. But it's up to Apple or third party manufacturers to support setting up and printing from iOS. Technically there's nothing stopping printer support from iOS. (I hate proprietary protocols like AirPrint)
Anyway, in my dream world, there won't be need for printing anything and everything will be done electronically. Unfortunately that day still has not come, but we are getting close.
For maintaining my tablet or smartphone? I actually haven't touched the nightmare that's iTunes for ages, except when I switched my phone because backing up and restoring from a PC/Mac is faster than doing so through the iCloud. But it's doable PC-less.
The big problem is music. I have a ton of songs on my PC and there is no way to manage them without iTunes.
I think many of the reasons why iOS cannot replace OS X or Windows is done by Apple itself. It's unfortunate.
Tim...Really? Don't like how the game is changing....If this is any indication of the possible roadmap that Steve may have left...
Maybe the bean counters have taken over.....Why does this seem like when Steve moved out of Apple the first time....The Board dictates and Tim follows..beginning to lose hope....
Maybe the bean counters have taken over.....Why does this seem like when Steve moved out of Apple the first time....The Board dictates and Tim follows..beginning to lose hope....
For a lot of mobile employees, an iPad pro could easily be all they need on the road.
Salespeople are a good example. Keynote, Safari and Email would just about cover it. They spend most of their time schmoozing customers anyway. You don't need a laptop for that - it could just get in the way.
Salespeople are a good example. Keynote, Safari and Email would just about cover it. They spend most of their time schmoozing customers anyway. You don't need a laptop for that - it could just get in the way.
If the very device that Tim Cook is saying will replace a pc actually needs to be plugged into a pc/Mac on occasion then he's talking baloney.
After reading some of these messages here I can see how closed minded you people are. Tim is absolutely correct when he say the iPad pro will replace computers for many. A lot of people, my retired mother and father included already use their iPads as primary computing devices.
Most things most people do on a pc can be done on an iPad. Apple didn't just make this up out of thin air. It's facts. All you people complain about no file system, no desktop apps etc. Why do you need to manipulate a file system? Why do you want desktop apps? It has fully capable iPad apps that do the same thing in an instant.
Some of you but not all might need these things. Even if you do need these things you represent a small percentage that do. Most people do not need to manipulate the file system, desktop apps a mouse or keyboard, or connect any accessories.
Some of you guys are talking about how you develop and use Xcode or you're a web designer etc. Get a grip, this isn't about you and your professional work. This is about most people doing common tasks, email, texting, web, apps, music, video, reading, writing, typing, do things faster, don't want to sit in front a desktop, don't want a laptop on their lap, who wants to walk and use the iPad at the same time. Move around the office or home while using with ease. Apple is primarily a consumer based company, and the iPad pro will be fine for what most consumers use their computers for.
Most things most people do on a pc can be done on an iPad. Apple didn't just make this up out of thin air. It's facts. All you people complain about no file system, no desktop apps etc. Why do you need to manipulate a file system? Why do you want desktop apps? It has fully capable iPad apps that do the same thing in an instant.
Some of you but not all might need these things. Even if you do need these things you represent a small percentage that do. Most people do not need to manipulate the file system, desktop apps a mouse or keyboard, or connect any accessories.
Some of you guys are talking about how you develop and use Xcode or you're a web designer etc. Get a grip, this isn't about you and your professional work. This is about most people doing common tasks, email, texting, web, apps, music, video, reading, writing, typing, do things faster, don't want to sit in front a desktop, don't want a laptop on their lap, who wants to walk and use the iPad at the same time. Move around the office or home while using with ease. Apple is primarily a consumer based company, and the iPad pro will be fine for what most consumers use their computers for.
Uh, I'm not espousing Cook's position here. I agree with you that an iPad is not an adequate laptop/desktop replacement. I think you missed the point of my post.
I hate to say this, but most people nowadays aren't good at telling what's a good tool and what's not. You know, Microsoft was the market leader back in the years when the Mac achieved its peak quality and productivity (we've moved away from that peak, unfortunately). And Java is perhaps the worst thing ever happened to Computer Science, yet Android became a market leader by adding a Java UI to a crippled Linux with reduced security. And in the days when UNIX workstations were the best tool, people insisted in trying to mimic them with inferior PCs that couldn't even compare.
So, I think Tim is sadly right here. iOS is clearly uncomfortable and unproductive for everyday computer work, but most Apple customers belong to the kind of users who made Microsoft rich in the past, and they will probably not care if they need to store their private data in iCloud or if their workflow becomes uncomfortable.
So Tim might be right saying current Apple users might switch. Just like the high probability I'll switch from Apple.
Hi, I'm running an OS X Server system. I'm managing 10,000 iPad/iOS devices. I blast images to these devices. I'm an Enterrpise and we have custom solutions from Apple and IBM. Get it yet?
Businesses can have a few in-house Macs and deploy all updates from them to their employees. It's just a natural extension. It's cheaper having a team of 100 realtors showing perspective clients everything at half the cost of a laptop.
Apple isn't talking about ending their laptops, desktops and workstations. They are saying non-Apple ecosystem perspective customers can have a great product in the ipad Pro and expand as they need to do so. Or not.
No, unfortunately Lightroom for mobile does not support direct RAW file import using the Camera Connection Kit or Wi-Fi.
Lightroom for mobile does not store your original RAW image files but instead syncs smart previews, so therefore requires a creative cloud membership. So it is unfortunately not a viable alternative as one stillneeds a computer as a central repository.
By your definition, ANY ipad can do that, and thus can replace a PC.
But the question here is, how does the PRO replace the PC better than any of the lesser expensive ipads?? How can you make a case for people to buy the PRO over the regular ipad?
I don't understand this thing about needing a pc to setup a printer. I bought an HP printer with AirPrint for like $79, and I can print all day long from my phone or tablet. No special configuration required. I must be missing something.
Wrong many people prefer to use touch. They have touch screen cell phones and tablets, and track pads on their laptops. People prefer touch.
Yah that's not gonna happen.
You're severely underestimating what people do with their computers.
My guess would be at least half of all teens code today - from making school projects to coding their Tumblr themes. Photoshop is also extremely popular with the creative crowd, and then you have MS Office for anyone with a job. So, between the three of them, you're covering a very large portion of computer users... at least half. These things are needed for anyone to consider them to be able to replace laptops.
Also, I'm surprised Apple doesn't have an Xcode IDE yet for iPads.
You're severely underestimating what people do with their computers.
My guess would be at least half of all teens code today - from making school projects to coding their Tumblr themes. Photoshop is also extremely popular with the creative crowd, and then you have MS Office for anyone with a job. So, between the three of them, you're covering a very large portion of computer users... at least half. These things are needed for anyone to consider them to be able to replace laptops.
Also, I'm surprised Apple doesn't have an Xcode IDE yet for iPads.
Yeah some can do Airprint but my HP laserjet needs setting up to the WiFi network and despite faffing for over two hours I couldn't get a Mac to do it, so out came the trusty pc and it was done in 10 mins. I can now print using my phone or tablet, but I couldn't install the printer on the network with one.
One could argue that it's about having some control over your computing experience. I like to live in a world where a person can still choose a computer environment with file systems, feature-filled software, accessories and a certain level of personalization. iOS devices (iPads and iPhones) represent a simplified, consumer oriented experience. I will not argue, perfect for many! But it seems like you're suggesting that we all get used to devices that only do things in one particular way. Luckily, for now, I think Apple is trying to hold on to all of us.
Some do, but a mouse is much more precise and accurate to use for computing. I do love the trackpad on the MacBooks, and they are almost good enough to never need a mouse but people still need something more precise sometimes and that's what the mouse is for.
It's replacing my Macbook Pro. I recently got a iMac 5K for my major computing stuff. I always used my Macbook Pro for games and mostly movies and stuff like that. So now the games are on my iMac and all my books and movies for travel on the iPad Pro. I just wanted a bigger screen for the movies while I travel.
Until there has some sort of agreement of what percentage is in "many", most of the arguments in this forum will be trivial. Many is more than a "few" and less than "most" so my number is 30%. Many people, and Tim most likely has a good idea, only register an iDevice. But then, they never had a desktop device in the first place.