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Tim Cook: iPad Pro Will Replace Notebooks and Desktops for 'Many, Many People'
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That's the POV I never understood on this forum--many believe there is no outside world. MacRumors isn't the average, but the exception. Most everyone with a computer (that I have ever seen) is merely doing the round of emails/surfing/simple document creation/music/video.
You don't need an expensive laptop for that.
Tim Cook is also speaking for the future, not for the moment or even the next month. That's another myopic MacRumor's stance--everything mentioned in tech interviews and press releases merely states an unchanging future. Tech changes month to month, evolving and expanding, into a future where paradigms shift quickly depending on software and hardware capabilities.
The moment I saw the iPhone unveiled, I imagined the tablet computer, and as soon as the iPad was unveiled, I imagined the replacement of laptops/desktops by tablets (but never completely). The progression is going slower than I expected, but it is happening and it will happen sometime in the next 5 years; it relies on the OS/hardware capabilities and functions.
People that rely on computers for complex tasks will still need laptops far into the future, but most people, over 90% of the market, only need them for simple tasks. Tim Cook is talking about those people and the future starting with the release of an expanded iOS.
You're right. But they already have an iPad. What's going to get them to upgrade? A bigger screen at twice the price? I doubt it.
That's just nonsense. The majority of people uses computers for a few basic things:
- Browsing the web
- Reading and writing emails
- Watching photos
- Videochat
So, could you please elaborate your statement why the majority needs Mac OS on an iPad?
We're all too busy with reasons why we will buy one to try and explain to you why you will.
why would those people buy a 1000 $ tablet tho if thats all they doing
Entirely independently of each other, three former Windows users I know have told me that they have dumped their Windows laptops/desktops and replaced them with iPads. They have no intention of ever buying another laptop/desktop again. They are all working people in management jobs.
Personally, I prefer a laptop. But Tim is right...for a growing number of people, the desktop era is over.
Personally, I prefer a laptop. But Tim is right...for a growing number of people, the desktop era is over.
Tim Cook dreams. It was, like yesterday? When there were proclamations of the moribund tablet industry that hit its peak? Everyone was satisfied with that they had and had no reason to upgrade?
That says Windows sucks more than it says an iPad is the superior platform - or is it one and the same?
That says Windows sucks more than it says an iPad is the superior platform - or is it one and the same?
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All this talk about tablets replacing notebooks/desktop makes no sense. Its just marketing tactic by Apple - "post-pc era" crap. If they mean it'd replace laptops and desktops for casual users who mainly use browser, facebook, twitter, etc then they'd be true. But people are already using smartphones for that and iPads in this case are merely enhancing the experience of the smartphone and not replacing desktops/laptops. If they're referring to other users who are pro using software like Adobe suite, Microsoft Office, etc then they must be living in a dream world. People use Mac OS and Windows for a reason - a simplistic touch screen OS that maxes out on a device at 13" screen without a mouse isn't going to cut it. Not to mention the iOS apps are not in the same level as desktop apps. Even with the stylus iPad Pro only would only be a useful addition to creative professionals and not exactly a replacement for their iMac and Mac Pro. And then we come to the price - a device that costs almost as much as a Macbook isn't going to replace anything without the functionality that laptops offer - screen size, proper mouse & keyboard, desktop class OS and software.
Actually desktop market is collapsing year after year ...
BTW no, I don't think any tablet will replace notebooks in the near future. I can't replace my MacBook Pro with an iPad, for many reasons (the OS X being the primary, but also the form factor, the proper keyboard and trackpad).
The iPad Air 2 has not replaced a desktop. The pro is just a big Air 2 for many many many people. The reason it has not replaced a desktop is cause it runs OS X without a file system or ability to run iTunes , which you force people to activate thier OS X devices.
I'm going to get one to trial, but if the speakers are one of the main selling points.... The Bose speakers connected to my desktop are going to be hard to beat
Edit : so basically cook is saying Microsoft were correct with the surface, and he copied one. A KB and a Stylus does not make an iPad Air a notebook/desktop killer.
I'm going to get one to trial, but if the speakers are one of the main selling points.... The Bose speakers connected to my desktop are going to be hard to beat
Edit : so basically cook is saying Microsoft were correct with the surface, and he copied one. A KB and a Stylus does not make an iPad Air a notebook/desktop killer.
Stereo sound is innovative? Sad to see that Apple is becoming a real joke. Microsoft on the other hand is becoming innovative. Welcome to Bizzaro world.
Really, you need a desktop to "code" a web page!!!! What? Come on, you can "code" most things (and I'm being very loose here in calling any of this coding), with a text terminal running 20 years old hardware. Even more old school dev can be done straight on a server somewhere (could be half way around the world...), where you're Ipad is merely a remote.
I'd gather most people who think they need a desktop, merely are USED to their desktop. So, it's more changing tools that's the bother/inertia and not the inadequacy of the Ipad per say.
Yes, there are some tasks were a Ipad just doesn't work, but they are fewer than most think.
His wrong. And you run iTunes on a Windows PC WTF? You of all people that loves apple so much Ha ha ha...
Most of those people have a tablet.
Why would I want to get home and assemble a iPad pro with a KB and stylus , when I can just pick up my iPad Air 2. A much more convient form factor, given the pro is running then same OS.
It's a question which device you will use based on the OS, not a larger iPad.
Really, with Surface 4 that's now gathering a huge load of complaints; yes, innovative in bad build quality and QA.
Allow the device to run OS X and maybe "Mr Tim Cook" people will replace there laptops.
I reached out to the guy that tested the Ipad pro last month, asking is there direct interaction into PS like a drawing tablet. I didn't hear a thing back or even found my answer.
I reached out to the guy that tested the Ipad pro last month, asking is there direct interaction into PS like a drawing tablet. I didn't hear a thing back or even found my answer.
You do not need an expensive, let alone ultra expensive, tablet either. The geeks are a really big portion of the people who buy expensive gadgets/hardware/software.
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Besides all the other valid criticism like storage, price, connectivity, mouse support, UI etc. still don't see how this device can replace many laptops/desktops without proper multi user support. I guess by now it is only the software holding this back (same goes for the UI). CPU/GPU/SSD performance is there, Touch ID 2 on the 6S is very fast, you could probably change the user with a single press of your thumb, but no.
Apple somehow thinks this is personal device like a smartphone or a watch and everyone should buy one. The same greedy mindset is already limiting existing iPads. And it is a big disadvantage of the new Apple TV 4 for families. Yeah i know, i should probably buy 5 of them for everyone in my household. And instead of the shared Macbook Pro, we get 5 iPPs.
Apple somehow thinks this is personal device like a smartphone or a watch and everyone should buy one. The same greedy mindset is already limiting existing iPads. And it is a big disadvantage of the new Apple TV 4 for families. Yeah i know, i should probably buy 5 of them for everyone in my household. And instead of the shared Macbook Pro, we get 5 iPPs.
Unless your using some pedal to metal Unix variants, you're merely setting the bar arbitrarily where you want it to be. For me, anyone using Windows is someone who thinks they're in control but they're really not.
That's coming from someone who used terminals as my main way to work into the early 2000s....
Saying that, I wouldn't foist the machines I use on my parents... I don't even want them to touch Windows!
They have full lives and dealing with the intricacies and idiosyncrasies of 1990s computing drove them (and me who was doing tech support to them) near mad!
It's amazing how many people here lack the imagination to think beyond established paradigms. Look at Microsoft that has introduced top notch iOS versions of their apps that integrate perfectly with their desktop versions, and Adobe that will do it now for the iPad Pro too (I remember some here complaining that that would never happen only a few weeks ago).
The majority of Apple consumers (going by sales of products the iPhone and iPad are at the top, hence iOS is the leading platform) do not need desktop functionality. They are in fact most of the times annoyed or confused by it (I not so fondly remember being a Sony laptop and needing two evenings to configure Windows Vista - that was my Apple transition moment right there). This is one of the reasons why the iPad is so successful. It is because it is easy to use and does what most of the users want it to do, without endless configuration and fumbling with settings. Many people welcome the lack of a file structure and love that the app just has the files ready that it can work with.
I do concede myself that Apple should work on the file sharing and integration capabilities, but have an open mind to new ways of working with files that go beyond the 20 year old Explorer model. With the introduction to iPad Pro, Apple will surely develop the OS for that device in the sense that it will get more advanced features. All of Apple's products mature over time and get better, so why not in this case.
I understand that many want a product to be perfect for them in the first generation, but use cases differ. In addition I'm absolutely positive no one on this board of experts can name one product that was perfect from the get-go and wasn't improved afterwards. Not one product from one producer on this planet.
So, many die hards like many of us here will probably stick with their mac for a while or forever. But there are many that have held off of tablets that might take the plunge now. The "why would I upgrade" question we hear so often here is not a very relevant question in the grand scheme of things. There are many many many people that do not own tablets or that have old tablets or tablets from another manufacturer. I for one have an iPad Air2 which zooms along quite nicely. In about a year I might look at the iPad Pro2 or whatever it will be called and decide then whether an upgrade is warranted.
I would rather have two speakers and a larger battery. I hope public places are not full of iPad PRO customers playing loud music or videos.