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Tim Cook: iPad Pro Will Replace Notebooks and Desktops for 'Many, Many People'
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They can deliver a superior user experience with superior support. Wake me when there's a Google store nearby or a Ms store that has technicians on site in thousands of locations.
I find the iPad is an excellent consumption device - i know a lot of people who do most of their consumption on iPads but work on a Mac or PC. Some people of course don't need to do any work, so the iPad is great for them.
However I find its still just so limited... Every time I go to do something productive with my iPad, its just so difficult having to work around iOS... It needs iCloud Drive to be better implanted for file storage, some sort of external storage support amongst other things.
Not going to read all the responses but I see the iPad pro PC replacement as part marketing and part truth.
Say it will replace a desktop computer and you have convinced some it will. But also I can see many people who would use this over a desktop. I see people using a regular iPad instead of a laptop or PC. Not everybody needs to code or develop things on a computer but for years have bought a desktop because that was a computer. Used a desktop rather than laptop because laptops were more expensive. But they love their smartphones and tablets. The idea of touching a computer is very personal. And the pro seems like it is the best of the iPads. The larger screen makes it easier to see many things on it and the side-by-side apps will be a great way to use it.
Just as many people buy Mac pros and many people say they are way too much for what you get. The same can be applied to the iPad pro.
Say it will replace a desktop computer and you have convinced some it will. But also I can see many people who would use this over a desktop. I see people using a regular iPad instead of a laptop or PC. Not everybody needs to code or develop things on a computer but for years have bought a desktop because that was a computer. Used a desktop rather than laptop because laptops were more expensive. But they love their smartphones and tablets. The idea of touching a computer is very personal. And the pro seems like it is the best of the iPads. The larger screen makes it easier to see many things on it and the side-by-side apps will be a great way to use it.
Just as many people buy Mac pros and many people say they are way too much for what you get. The same can be applied to the iPad pro.
I'm a fairly loyal to Apple right now. That's largely because they stand behind their products for the most part and I get a certain level of quality that is currently unmatched by competitors. Yes I'm willing to pay a bit more for it. It works for my needs right now. I was a PC/Linux guy before. Then I bought my first mac in 2005 and everytime I say I'm going to buy a PC I end up with a Mac.
I am actually enjoying watching people ranting and bashing against Tim Cook and iPad Pro. I hope they're wrong.
I know this iPad will be successful. Why? People want bigger screen since it does split screen.
We will see how it goes. I will record this entire thread and post / poke fun of you all when Apple will announce the Q1 2016.
I know this iPad will be successful. Why? People want bigger screen since it does split screen.
We will see how it goes. I will record this entire thread and post / poke fun of you all when Apple will announce the Q1 2016.
I second that as well - it is amazing the number of people posting on this forum who think that Tim is referring to the people like us on this forum when he says "for many, many people" when it is clear that Tim is talking about the average person; my niece or mum and maybe my next door neighbour - all who would benefit from a device that shields them from making stupid mistakes by providing a walled garden with in place upgrades etc. If that means that going forward end users will be on the iOS and power users like us are on OS X then it should mean that Apple can focus on adding features that power users want on OS X whilst focusing on turning iOS into a consumer friendly operating system that caters for the masses - the consumers get what they want and the power users get what we want meaning it is a win-win for all concerned.
How? besides expensive slow wireless ones that have very poor system support...
What if I wanted to store video clips on an external drive to edit in iMovie, or store my photo collection on an external drive ?
I'm starting to think Apple only made the 2015 MacBook so the iPad Pro would be more powerful than it and Apple could say "iPad Pro is a laptop replacement!!".
No it's not. It's referring to people that can get everything out of the iPad Pro that they usually get from a PC, given that particular person's usage pattern ... Mainly the type of people that merely use a PC to browse website, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and thing of that nature, with some light gaming. They can do all of that on an iPad. For those people, it can replace their laptop of desktop computer. It's not saying that it can do everything that a laptop or desktop can possibly do, regardless of person.
In other words, it depends on the reasons for which a person would use a laptop or desktop.
Lots of people here are throwing context completely out the window in an attempt to make some sort of a point about why the statement doesn't apply to them, as if to say Tim Cook was specifically referring to them. If you find yourself having that sort of reaction, then that's probably a good sign that you're not a part of the demographic to which he was referring.
I travel a lot for work and contemplated bringing along just my iPad instead of my monster sized thinkpad w-series since I was just going to present some slide decks. First Keynote messes up the formatting on the PowerPoint slides, that's ok I have office 365 and The PowerPoint app but even then some fonts are substituted. But the number one problem is that there is no good presentation "clicker" for the iPad. First, most places have projectors with vga inputs so the you need to use the Lightning to Vga dongle. With that attached the iPad is tied to the desk, so you need a Bluetooth type clicker to advance the slides as you're on the podium or standing in front of the room. It's clunky to hold a huge iPad with a 50' vga cable dragging along and trying to flip slides with your other hand. So far the only Bluetooth clicker I've seen is the satechi but it's no longer available and apparently does not work with iOS 9. Don't see it taking the place of my laptop anytime soon even for basic tasks.
This is one of my biggest problem with iPad Pro. Say the iPad could run full featured Adobe suite. Are you expected to gorilla arm, hold the tablet with one hand, or hunch over an iPad laid flat on a table the entire time you work? The new keyboard solves a problem for typing but it bothers me that Apple seemingly didn't feel the need to address the whole gorilla arm usability issue.
Even then it won't be replacing my MBPr by any stretch of the imagination.
An iPad plus accessories may be a good solution for some, but the type of work I do, day in and day out, is not tablet friendly. Pushing this idea of "Post PC" or whatever the current "vision" is now... reeks of Apple's greed.
I can't help but think on a per unit basis, they are making an especially fat profit on this "Pro" model.
While this is true, I support a lot of iPad users who are your every day people - non of them have moved completely onto iPads and the reason being most use their computers for some sort of work, and find the restrictions on the iPad actually make simple work more complex.
The iPad is a perfect device though for the person who mainly consumes, and does' need to do much work as you're right it removes the complexities of a desktop computer, however they've got a fair way to go to nail productivity on the iPad.
For some people it probably can. Not everyone needs to plug in peripherals anymore. We have wireless printers and scanners now. Photos upload through the cloud. HTML 5 has largely replaced Flash. And some people might leave an older PC or Mac around for the few cases where they do need to connect to an old device or a USB key.
There are things Apple can do to improve iOS. They can make it easier to add attachments to emails. They can make the browser in the iPad Pro default to requesting desktop sites. They can store local files in a central location. I think they should consider these if they want to make Tim Cook's vision a reality. But the hardware looks impressive.
I know that, that's why I have bought so many Apple products over the years. The thing is, with this statement, it is blanketing the "many, many users" like it will replace the desktop. I personally don't think it could replace a desktop. I tried to do this for a couple years with an iPad Mini 2 and an Air 2, and it was painful. No file system makes it hard to manage things around the OS (iCloud Drive made it better). Emailing and merging documents is a hassle compared to a desktop OS. There are a lot of things.
Yes, it could replace it for some people, but honestly, I don't see it replacing it for many. This is just my opinion, sorry if I am offending anyone or coming across as a jerk.
I would rather Apple didn't default to desktop sites. People's sites should be mobile by default. It's an insult to me when it isn't. If Apple can make native apps responsive CSS and javascript experts can do the same for websites.
I spent nearly a grand on my sister's iPad and she hasn't once asked me if she could have a computer since. Problem solved. iPad is enough.
I don't think this "solution" is the best for "many, many people" either. A lot of tasks that people in various professions do require a true computer with a desktop OS, real keyboard, and mouse.
I guess its how we interrupt the author who intercepted the interviewer who interrupted Tim.
Since were not the original writer.
Quite amusing that many commenters seem to think that the majority of computer users across the globe use them for work, when in fact the vast majority of computer users use them purely for social networking and cute cat videos.
Will the iPad pro replace my full blown computers? nope because I use my computer to make a living.
Will/could the iPad pro replace every other member of my households computers, of course it could. Their current computers are iPads.
Tim Cook is 100% correct iPad pro will replace laptops and desktops for many many people, tablets already have.
Will the iPad pro replace my full blown computers? nope because I use my computer to make a living.
Will/could the iPad pro replace every other member of my households computers, of course it could. Their current computers are iPads.
Tim Cook is 100% correct iPad pro will replace laptops and desktops for many many people, tablets already have.
Office 365 is actually pretty good. I wouldn't run a Monte Carlo analysis on it, but Word and PowerPoint are pretty good and Excel works for simple spreadsheets.
Anyway, may main point is that people should stop asking Apple to put OS X on an iPad or add a touchscreen to the Mac. They aren't going to do that. They might add some functionality to iOS. Push Apple to do that instead. It is more likely to be fruitful.
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I think this may be true now but honestly only developers/designers/ops/db video and media editing folk need the power of a full computer. Everyone else like writers and marketing folk and 90% of all other jobs out in the world have no use for the amount of power in a full computer. They don't even use all of it or anything close. I also think iOS will end up swallowing OSX at some point. I think that is the most likely scenario.
I wonder if MSFT would add additional features to Excel so power users would pay to use it on their iPads.
I don't think it's practical right now. Secondly, this stuff doesn't happen overnight. Behaviors change over time. The iPad was just planting the seed. We are getting a first glimpse of where Apple wants to take us.
It's too expensive. If we all decided not to buy it at this price point they will have to bring the price down. We know they have massive profit levels and we know they can cut prices.