Tim Cook, Making Apple His Own

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  1. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    I thought this was an interesting article...never saw these comments from Ive before.

    Tim Cook, Making Apple His Own

     
  2. macs4nw macrumors 601

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    I continue to believe TC has so far done an admirable job, under challenging conditions, and doesn't get the credit he deserves from some tech pundits and bloggers. (Or from the occasional MR poster, for that matter.)
     
  3. weup togo macrumors regular

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    I'm curious what you think today.
     
  4. macs4nw, Nov 23, 2016
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    Wow, that's some 2½ yrs ago. An eternity in the Tech world really. Since you dug that up, feel free to peruse some of my more recent posts about Tim's current performance.

    There seems to be way too much emphasis on profits lately, mainly to the detriment of legacy products. In my opinion necessitated by Tim's lack of patents to his name, as well as generally less of a vision going forward, and a more muddied, less focussed effort in product development, evidenced by a huge and somewhat confusing (and in some cases duplicitous) product lineup.

    To put it more plainly, imho Tim's sole job security at Apple is profits for the shareholders. With the TV effort now apparently permanently at the 'hobby' stage, and project 'Titan' seemingly in flux, as well as an absence of exciting other new products on the near horizon, the nickel-and-diming to sustain those almighty profits seems to have started. Steve could simply not be replaced, and with his famous pipeline now virtually depleted, stagnation is a real possibility. Incremental yearly updates just won't cut it indefinitely.

    Sorry to be bear-ish, but with an eye towards the company's long-term future, Apple is realistically speaking more than likely on the descend side of the curve. Only a miracle new steward can sustain them for a new generation of increasingly savvy and demanding tech clientele.
     
  5. AidenShaw macrumors P6

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    Or, Tim could fire Jony. We'd see a new Apple rather quickly. Maybe even Phil would get off his ass.
     
  6. weup togo macrumors regular

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    Spot on, I agree 100%. Humorously, this thread was the top related thread to another new thread in the last 24h.

    I'm glad the tide is turning against Tim's shoddy leadership. I was the first person I know to express any reservations about the changes he started making within months of SJ's death. It was too soon then to know if it would be a pattern or just missing the old days.
     
  7. I7guy macrumors G5

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    How is the tide turning? I don't see it where it counts. Arm chair ceos and analysts excluded.
     
  8. maflynn Moderator

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    While I agree that most of the "tide" is from Apple's core fan base, but there is an increasing concern about Apple's leadership coming from investors, and those voices are the ones that apple cares about, since its basically Apple's owners becoming concerned.

    I've posted this before, but I think its on topic here:
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    So investment bankers are asking about Apple's strategy, and all they got was a rambling answer about how great the pipeline is. Well, we've been hearing that sort of answer from Cook for about 4 years (maybe longer), and to be honest, I'm not seeing much come from apple's pipeline that really excites me. While I will admit, that I'm not the typical apple customer any longer, I think its safe to say that thinner products are not considered innovative and exciting.

    Those investment bankers want to know Apple's strategy, because the iPhone, (apple's cash cow), will not last forever, and cracks in the dike are already appearing, so as owners they'd like to know more about Apple's direction from Cook.

    I think the news about starting, killing off, then re-focusing Apple's car initiative, the failure of its homekit product, its failure to sign media companies for its streaming initiative and apple-tv growth are all signs that apple is stumbling around not sure what it wants to do.

    Just my $.02, but with Steve Jobs, Apple had a laser focus on what it was going to do, but with Cook they seem to lack focus, will and ability to execute a business plan.
     
  9. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    My take is that Tim Cook is less able to collaborate with other companies that do a better job than Apple can do. Instead we get shoddy junk that doesn't function and spin about how it's changing the world
     
  10. I7guy macrumors G5

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    Shoddy junk is hyperbole. Apple does not produce shoddy junk, and why would one even buy products that one believes is "shoddy junk"?
     
  11. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    I was referring to the software. Its not junk - but it's reliably shoddy whereas not too long ago it was reliable outstanding
     
  12. I7guy macrumors G5

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    Software, thanks for clarifying. Out of the gate, I can't remember a release in the 6 or 7 years that didn't have some issues. It always seems the last version before the next release is always the best. I'm on 10.2 beta and really liking IOS 10 on my 6s.
     
  13. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    This is something of a sticking point on the forum. I definitely acknowledge that all software has its little issues, but in my experience the bugs are more and more moving into the territory of fundamental functioning of apps not just side features. I am SURE to get someone saying that's anecdotal, but I also think I've seen plenty of the same sentiment around the internet
     
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    Even a while ago there were plenty of people having all kinds of issues with all kinds of things--these forums are full of that kind of stuff pretty much no matter what version of iOS or macOS/OS X or anything like that we are talking about.
     
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    The problem with Apple is that it has become complacent and is no longer concerned with excellence.

    One example: have you ever seen an Apple keynote? They are astonishingly poor. They are delivered by executives who earn more money than most of us will earn in our lifetimes, yet they're amateur hour. Either Cook doesn't know or he doesn't care that the people he's paying are bad. Either way, the clear impression is that he's someone who is interested solely in short-term profit and snorting as much personal cash as he can for as long as he can.
     
  17. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Now company announcements are not being exhilarating and "innovative" enough and that is a sign of something/anything?
     
  18. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    you should watch the end of each one tim does and see how repetitive they are. I get an overwhelming feeling I'm being lied to.

    I think the car pool karaoke takes the cake. Either Apple are marketing to kids, or Apple think the adults that buy their products are kids. whats that you say? They just bought it and were doing a bit of promo? Well thanks for the stomach churning corny ad that wouldn't keep a three year olds attention, and what is that promo worth to the company.. how many more viewers will they get for it? It's insignificant.
    You can't even trust Tim Cook that he's having fun.

    Then there's the fake clapping and 'wooing'. Watch Phil Schiller stumble over his words before 'it's the most powerful MacBook ever made' (can someone please tell Phil that it had ought to be!) in the latest keynote and then the robotic way the audience claps and woos. Of course it's no surprise they plant enthusiasts, but the people that organise for them to be there shouldn't then believe what they're doing is a reflection of the offerings!!

    I just really think the board are in their own echo chamber. If it were a choice between an excellent product and $1 less profit or a poor product and that one extra dollar, does anybody doubt what tims choice would be. And if you think that's ok, that's how the board got to where it's at
     
  19. I7guy macrumors G5

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    I've been watching the keynotes for a few years only. And I happen to like them and like the management team. I am not emotionally invested in Apple though, to me they are another company that produces products I want to buy and enjoy using.
     
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    I totally agree phil stumbles because he knows deep down that it a lie and its the same old line every keynote.
     
  21. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    I didn't say he stumbled because it was a lie. I think they're quite good and delivering dubious lines
     
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    My bad, sorry for the misunderstanding.
     
  23. McGiord macrumors 601

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    Doesn't matter who is the responsible, spotlight no longer works thanks to Siri and buggy software releases.
    Music App sucks.
    All is a subscription nowadays and with and every product release instead of happiness we have fear to loose functionality and a regret to install the updates.
     
  24. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    No worries at all, just thought I'd point out the difference
     
  25. Zirel Suspended

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    Just the fact that that "article" calls the Apple Watch "iWatch", demonstrates what it is: trash.

    "Uninspiring"? Uninspiring only because nobody else is able to copy. It's bigger than any other swiss brand on the first year (and not by "units") but Rolex, and in the second year, I smell the biggest watch brand.

    The technology is not easily imitable and the design impossible to reach to other brands, also, the trust people have in Apple to make a decent quasi-medicinal device is unparalleled to the other Asian companies. Sorry, Android fanboys salivating at this article.
     

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