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The board is co-chaired by U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross and Advisor to the President Ivanka Trump...

I wish it good luck but its leadership doesn't give me much confidence. Wilbur will be telling workers to go to the bank to get loans and Ivanka will be doing...whatever it is that she does.
 
Indeed, and you didn't even get into the long-term impact of the tax plan, the government shutdown, the trade war with China, among many other things. The depth of misguidedness in the original statement is mind-numbing.
Yeah, there seems to be a very specific type of Trump supporter in online forums who make these short, ridiculous, completely unfounded statements, and then disappear. Probably out of a sense of shame and self-preservation.

All of those things that you mentioned are likely to have a negative influence down the road. (I am happy to see an American president finally address the inequities of our trade relationship with China, but the way he’s going about it is absolutely horrible.)

It’s funny that you mention the long-term impact of the tax plan, because when people see how small their returns are this year, the **** is going to hit the fan sooner than later. The average returns so far are being calculated as 8.4% less than last year, and there is already a new hashtag going around Twitter: #GOPTaxScam.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/under-new-trump-tax-code-average-refund-8-4-percent-n970066
 
Apple has billions in profits under Tim Cook. The US has added more debt then all of Obama’s eight years under Trump’s leadership.

Borrowing is not leadership.
Not a Trump fan, but WTF are you talking about?
The debt nearly doubled from 10 Trillion to 19 Trillion under Obama. It's gone up 3 trillion under Trump so far.
My math skills may be a bit rusty, but 3 trillion is a lot smaller than 9 trillion.
 
Always amusing to have a positive economy, the highest black and Hispanic employment rates, etc. explained away as caused by a previous administration and/or just a byproduct of some general upswing.

Orange man BAD! Trump is a racist! Trump hates Mexicans! Russia collusion! What else is the lunatic left going to concoct next? Trump derangement syndrome infects the dim-witted and shows no signs of stopping.
 
AAPL 9 years ago: 51.31
AAPL now: 170.74

Next.
Apple in September 2012: $91
Apple in December 2018: $150

Apple's initial growth during the transition to Cook was in no way attributable to Cook. The iPhone 5 was definitely still Jobs. It wasn't until the Apple Watch in 2015 that we had a product that was 100% done under Cook and had nothing to do with Jobs.
 
Trump is doing a fine job on the economy. Can’t say the same about Cook and Apple though
The markets are still well down from this time last year. My investments have gone back up a bit since the end of last year, but only to about what it was when he came into office. So not bad, but not good. However I saw a report yesterday that there are a million more people who are 3 months or more behind on their car loan payments than there were at the peak of the financial crisis nearly 10 years ago. It's like seven million people who are way behind on their car loans, which is typically a bad sign that things below the surface are worse than we think. Hope not, and you would think not given the jobs numbers, but I think it didn't help that the government was shut down for over a month and many people depleted their savings. If I remember right there are also less people in the workforce than there used to be, so that might make the jobs numbers not seem quite as bad. It also seems like the tax cuts aren't working out very well for a lot of people who have filed thus far, so people may have overspent thinking they would get a big refund this year. Stupid thing to believe a politician without proof, but most people aren't rational.
 
Always amusing to have a positive economy, the highest black and Hispanic employment rates, etc. explained away as caused by a previous administration and/or just a byproduct of some general upswing.

Orange man BAD! Trump is a racist! Trump hates Mexicans! Russia collusion! What else is the lunatic left going to concoct next? Trump derangement syndrome infects the dim-witted and shows no signs of stopping.

How is that amusing? Do you really think the economy is something you can change in one day as if you're redecorating a kitchen?

The economy expanded during Obama's term, and has continued to expand since. Yet you attribute the continuation of that expansion to someone who has done nothing but raise taxes on everyone but the rich, started trade wars with every major trading partner, and shut down government for over a month because he didn't get his way.

Makes sense.
 
Yeah, there seems to be a very specific type of Trump supporter in online forums who make these short, ridiculous, completely unfounded statements, and then disappear. Probably out of a sense of shame and self-preservation.

All of those things that you mentioned are likely to have a negative influence down the road. (I am happy to see an American president finally address the inequities of our trade relationship with China, but the way he’s going about it is absolutely horrible.)

It’s funny that you mention the long-term impact of the tax plan, because when people see how small their returns are this year, the **** is going to hit the fan sooner than later. The average returns so far are being calculated as 8.4% less than last year, and there is already a new hashtag going around Twitter: #GOPTaxScam.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/under-new-trump-tax-code-average-refund-8-4-percent-n970066

When you pay less in taxes during the course of the year and you don't change your witholdings you will get a smaller tax return. Pretty simple to understand. Completely ignoring the fact that if you are a person who gets back large sums of money in a tax return every year your'e not very intelligent with money management anyway. But yeah, that's Trumps fault.o_O
 
Does anyone really think some board of extremely wealthy CEO's is going to do anything to improve conditions for American workers?
1. There are a lot more constituents on the policy board than CEO's.

2. He is addressing the skills gap with the folks that can address it and the folks that can utilize the increasingly trained folks right away.

3. He is ignoring critics and just doing in reality what they have talked about for decades with zero identifiable progress.

How about this, if you find some direction they are going you disagree with and have a better idea, do something radical. Write a letter to the committee. Yes, paper and a stamp.
 
I mean, it's all a dog and pony show. Does anyone really think some board of extremely wealthy CEO's is going to do anything to improve conditions for American workers?

A list of names on an article and a fancy luncheon that probably cost more than some kid's college tuition. That's all these advisory committees ever seem to amount to.

I've had dinner with Walter Bumphus (2nd name on list) numerous times. He served on the board of a small company I co-founded years ago. A very down to earth guy who really does try to help average workers (such as myself) in many ways within the educational community. So there are at least some CEOs that do care.
 
Yeah, there seems to be a very specific type of Trump supporter in online forums who make these short, ridiculous, completely unfounded statements, and then disappear. Probably out of a sense of shame and self-preservation.

All of those things that you mentioned are likely to have a negative influence down the road. (I am happy to see an American president finally address the inequities of our trade relationship with China, but the way he’s going about it is absolutely horrible.)

It’s funny that you mention the long-term impact of the tax plan, because when people see how small their returns are this year, the **** is going to hit the fan sooner than later. The average returns so far are being calculated as 8.4% less than last year, and there is already a new hashtag going around Twitter: #GOPTaxScam.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/under-new-trump-tax-code-average-refund-8-4-percent-n970066



Well people who are dumb enough to look at their tax refund and say it’s a scam are just that. Dumb. My refund was just a hair less than last year but when you look at my total taxes paid year over year I paid around 5k less which I’m sure is the case for other people. Why is it so hard for people to understand.
 
Apple in September 2012: $91
Apple in December 2018: $150

Apple's initial growth during the transition to Cook was in no way attributable to Cook. The iPhone 5 was definitely still Jobs. It wasn't until the Apple Watch in 2015 that we had a product that was 100% done under Cook and had nothing to do with Jobs.
1. Why are you looking at December when now is now?
2. 91 is still << 150
3. AAPL in 2015 = 120s, still << 170.

So, no matter how you slice it, Cook is doing a fine job at the helm financially.

And btw, the OP congratulated Trump on the economy while bashing Cook. If Cook can’t take credit for AAPL growth for a few years because of Jobs, and you’re probably right, then Trump can’t take credit for the economy’s growth for a few years because of Obama.
 
Trump is doing a fine job on the economy. Can’t say the same about Cook and Apple though

Trump inherited a very good economy (8 years of continuous grow before he became president)and after a year of presidency all analysts and economists are talking of the next USA recession. Economically speaking probably it's biggest accomplishment has been destabilising the world economy with his dumb tariffs...
 
I'm assuming you blamed Obama for the increase in the national debt when he was in office?

Let me guess, during that period it was the Republicans in Congress' fault? :D:D:D
It’s all relative. The debt did go up during Obama’s tenure. But it was a reaction to try to dig us out if the hole dug by George W.’s administration, and STILL it was less than the massive debt increase under Trump. And he managed to help turn around the economy with one of the most obstructionist congresses that we’ve ever had.

Truth: Republicans falsely claim to be the “conservative” party that is concerned with the economy, but in reality they have been anything but conservative. Republican presidents over the past 40 years have run up the debt at an insane pace that is unprecedented in US history, while Democratic presidents have actually shown far greater restraint and fiscal discipline, increasing the debt at a far lesser pace, and in some cases lowering it, all while outperforming the Republican counterparts on Wall Street and in GNP. Perhaps, by the end of Trump’s term, the myth thst Republicans are concerned with the economy will be busted. The only economic conditions that they care about are the ones that exist in their personal bank accounts.

And for the love of God, why are you using those green smiley faces emoji‘s?. Please. No. Never.
 
How is that amusing? Do you really think the economy is something you can change in one day as if you're redecorating a kitchen?

The economy expanded during Obama's term, and has continued to expand since. Yet you attribute the continuation of that expansion to someone who has done nothing but raise taxes on everyone but the rich, started trade wars with every major trading partner, and shut down government for over a month because he didn't get his way.

Makes sense.

Quote where I said that an economy can change overnight.

Quote where I attributed the current economy specifically to Trump.

Since you mentioned Obama, do you attribute the “expanded economy” to his leadership? To what do you attribute the current record low black and Hispanic unemployment rates?

Yup, makes sense.
 
The markets are still well down from this time last year. My investments have gone back up a bit since the end of last year, but only to about what it was when he came into office. So not bad, but not good. However I saw a report yesterday that there are a million more people who are 3 months or more behind on their car loan payments than there were at the peak of the financial crisis nearly 10 years ago. It's like seven million people who are way behind on their car loans, which is typically a bad sign that things below the surface are worse than we think. Hope not, and you would think not given the jobs numbers, but I think it didn't help that the government was shut down for over a month and many people depleted their savings. If I remember right there are also less people in the workforce than there used to be, so that might make the jobs numbers not seem quite as bad. It also seems like the tax cuts aren't working out very well for a lot of people who have filed thus far, so people may have overspent thinking they would get a big refund this year. Stupid thing to believe a politician without proof, but most people aren't rational.


DOW when Trump took office. 19827
DOW today 25500

I’m not saying Trump is the reason why it’s up 6k. But the DOW was also right around 25500 last year at this time. It’s onky down 1400 from it’s all time high. I’m just sighting facts. Your post is purely emotional based on your hate from Trump just like most of the far left.
 
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