Tim Cook on Apple Watch: 'You're Going to Wind Up Charging It Daily'

[kdarling]

"Wind up"

Interesting choice of words

Yeah, my first thought was that they'd introduce a new feature:

"So see, you just pull out the Digital Crown like you're setting the time on a real watch, and then spin it like a sonuvabitch as fast as you can... and bam! Five more minutes of battery time! "

 

[OllyW]

When did, "People will use it so much they'll wind up charging it every day," become 'it will tell time for only half a day'?

I was replying to the post (that I quoted) that predicted 12-14 hours battery life.

 

[Roessnakhan]

Yeah, my first thought was that they'd introduce a new feature:

"So see, you just pull out the Digital Crown like you're setting the time on a real watch, and then spin it like a sonuvabitch as fast as you can... and bam! Five more minutes of battery time! "

Socket bit + powerdrill = never run out of power.

 

[Glassed Silver]

"Since the Apple Watch requires daily charge cycles, users are given a more intimate experience of sitting down with their Apple Watch and waiting for it. iPhone users familiar with this feature would be pleased to know that charging their Apple Watch will work seamlessly through their daily routines. Consciously checking on the remaining battery life often allows users to gain a personal connection with their Apple Watch."

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I love these fake Jony Ive marketing monologues.

Glassed Silver:mac

 

[StyxMaker]

Fact is they didn't shut it off until AFTER Pay was available. If Pay wasn't getting any traction there would be no reason to shut it off. They didnt shut it off for Google Wallet which has been available for several years.

Do we have to discuss this even on threads that have nothing to do with Apple Pay?

 

[SHNXX]

It's remarkable that people keep suggesting that watches could be powered by motion.


Uh yes, when the watch needs to turn some gears and wheels, not when the watch needs to power 300ppi color screen with sensors running.

 

[2298754]

I really want one... but i'm not going thru another iPad 3 debacle again. I'm waiting for the 2nd gen.

 

[windywalks]

Slightly disappointed - not at all surprised. I have been wearing a Pebble since it came out via Kickstarter. I have never got more than a full day out of the battery even though they claim "days."

Maybe the current production models have a different battery than my Kickstarter model, and I wouldn't even been surprised if that were the case...but the fact of the matter is I have unplugged my Pebble in the AM, gone to sleep that night and awoke to a dead watch the next AM SEVERAL times.

Still love my Pebble, still want an Apple Watch...taking it off and charging every night is just something you deal with at this point. Frankly I don't think it's that big of a deal - as a healthcare worker I've worn watches for years and years - personally I ALWAYS take them off to shower....so why not just take it off when you go to bed anyway?

Even now with the constant background pedometer, Up! watch face and notifications my Pebble doesn't run for less than 4-5 days. Earlier it used to run for a whole week. Unless yours vibrates it self to death during the day it shouldn't last as little as that. Mind you, mine isn't a Kickstarter edition, but rather a recent (july) gift.

However a watch that doesn't last 24 hrs at the least would suck and defeat the purpose of being a watch. You won't carry around a spare quartz or mechanical watch in case your Watch runs out of juice during the day just as you don't carry your feature phone in case your iPhone goes flat. Also, as far as I like the looks of the Watch, it's not nearly half as good looking for me to carry around a dead piece of questionable jewellery for the remainder of the day.

As for sleep tracking, I rather have my iPhone under my pillow, than use something that's attached to my wrist. It just makes me anxious as I even take of my engagement ring when I go to sleep.

 

[taptic]

If you just need a time keeper, this most certainly is not the product for you.

Obviously. But it will replace a time keeper in addition to all the special stuff it does and thus needs to be able to function as both.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Do you mind providing a quote of someone here saying "one day battery life is great"?

There are several posts in this thread saying that one day battery life is fine. I suggest reading the thread. And then read the link provided to the thread about the Galaxy Gear where one day battery life is bashed.

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Do we have to discuss this even on threads that have nothing to do with Apple Pay?

Yes, it's in the fine print of TOS.

 

[dec.]

There are several posts in this thread saying that one day battery life is fine. I suggest reading the thread. And then read the link provided to the thread about the Galaxy Gear where one day battery life is bashed.

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That was a very long "no", but thanks for confirming.

 

[SuperPolli]

Is This So Bad?

This isn't really such a bad thing. Take it off when you go to sleep and plug it in. It's not a big problem. As long as it lasts at least 16 hours I would think. That's a standard 6 am-10 pm day.

 

[AppleScruff1]

That was a very long "no", but thanks for confirming.

Read the thread. Then defend.

 

[Robstevo]

Love the fact everyone is saying this isnt a bad thing, yet they teat in andoid equivalent for the exact same thing, This thing looks like fail to me, however the concept (just like the android equivalent) is good.

Maybe revision 2-3 will be better but yea I'm going to be waiting.

 

[B2k1977]

de facto CEO?

I read something about Jobs giving Ive tenure or something to that effect. He has full creative freedom he can basically do whatever he wants without being checked by anyone else in the company. So to answer your questions I guess yea, because I don't think Tim is very involved in product design, he's more of a business guy.

 

[AppleScruff1]

24 hours is pointless. You get up today at 8am with a freshly charged watch. You use it for 24 hours and get up tomorrow at 8am when it just runs out of battery.

You want at least 16 and possibly 23 hours. Beyond that, the next useful amount is 40 or possibly 47 hours so you can charge every second day. 24 or 30 hours is pointless.

Good point. Making it through a day and a half is pretty useless, your better off charging every night. So it should jump from one day to two to be practical so you either charge it every night or every other night. Having to charge it during the day is pointless.

 

[Keirasplace]

Love the fact everyone is saying this isnt a bad thing, yet they teat in andoid equivalent for the exact same thing, This thing looks like fail to me, however the concept (just like the android equivalent) is good.

Maybe revision 2-3 will be better but yea I'm going to be waiting.

The Android equivalent has a slower less efficient SOC (Apple made a custom SOC... No one else did that), so it can't do more.

IT is Impossible since they :
- Got the same screen tech
- The same comm chips
- The same battery tech
- IOS is also reknowed for being thrifty on resources

If this watches does EXACTLY the same as the android ones, it will last longer. If you use it MORE, of course it won't last as long. Seriously, people like you are massively obtuse.

BTW, Android solutions are ALL 50% bigger in volume than the Apple solution.

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Read the thread. Then defend.

You do understand that god damn use makes a difference don'T you? Seriously, I'm tired of this playing with words and being obtuse.

Galaxy gear, especially the initial models were ridiculously inefficient (just like the crappy 360 (especially pre update)) even if they are big as boats. So, they did little and got gassed... Are you going to defend that? Nobody would, not even those that actually bought them.

If you do NOTHING, anything can last a day.

IF I play intensive FPS shooter games, I will kill all phones fast (a few hours), that's a given.

He's saying people will use it so much they'll need to charge it if they want to available the next day. That's it. That's the extent of what was said.

How much use is that? We will have to see it when it arrives. Apple has a tendency to under promise and over deliver (like promising 10h in the Air and giving 14, or 10h in the Air 2 and giving almost 12h).

The key in what he said is, IT WILL BE DEAD FROM HIGH LEVEL OF USE. Not dead after being babied all day like the Moto 360.

 

[FrankB1191]

I know plenty of 30-somethings who can't wait to get an iWatch. I get the impression that don't give a damn what it does, or that it would need to be charged every night. My taste in watches runs in another direction, so it won't be on my wrist, but that's not to say it won't make a lot of people happy....

 

[Rogifan]

I guess for those that want that on their wrist it's a good thing.

Not sure everyone does though.

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The more I think about it - the less I might be concerned about how much usage I get off of a charge if they enabled fast-charging on the device.

If some of the newer phones coming out can get up to 80 percent charge in what - 15 minutes? Certainly they can do this for a smaller watch/battery.

I might have missed this in the reviews - but how long does a full charge take on the Apple watch. That should be part of the equation if you're going to gripe.

What reviews? No one has reviewed this device yet outside of talking about hardware design. No one has been able to use the software. And Apple has said very little about battery life aside from most likely you'll need to charge it every night.

 

[samcraig]

What reviews? No one has reviewed this device yet outside of talking about hardware design. No one has been able to use the software. And Apple has said very little about battery life aside from most likely you'll need to charge it every night.

Splitting hairs. Reviews/articles/commentary/statements. Point is - I don't believe I've seen it in print yet - and it sounds like it hasn't been. So the question remains which is equally important. How long does it take to charge.

 

[Rogifan]

Do you mind providing a quote of someone here saying "one day battery life is great"?

Or how about providing a quote from someone who scorned phablets but now says the 6 Plus is the best thing ever. I hate when people throw out mass generalizations or make absurd claims in some silly effort to prove hypocrisy.

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Splitting hairs. Reviews/articles/commentary/statements. Point is - I don't believe I've seen it in print yet - and it sounds like it hasn't been. So the question remains which is equally important. How long does it take to charge.

It's not splitting hairs! How can you review a device when you're not able to use the software? So far no one has been given a device to use. Any "reviews" either came from the hands on area at the event or from someone who got time with the watch under Apple supervision. In both of those circumstances the device was running demo software. We don't know how long it takes to charge just like we don't know how long it can go without a charge (other than Cook saying you'll probably need to charge it each night with heavy use). Apple has not made any of that information public. I'm not sure why it's important right now considering the device isn't available for sale.

 

[Keirasplace]

True. The difference is that in all my years of using Apple products (started with an Apple IIc in the '80s), this is the first time I really think Apple screwed up on a product. I've had my doubts on a few Apple products until I saw one. I've been very impressed by some products that turned out to fail. I even tried to justify the puck mouse. I admit to a strong bias toward Apple and what they make. That said I think they totally screwed the pooch on this, and I've never felt this way about anything Apple ever made. We'll see though, I could be wrong. But where I could see the value of other products once the details and pictures came out, even if it wasn't something I might use, with the Apple Watch I just don't. The more I see, the more I DON'T see the value of one, don't see it being a success. I have never been as pessimistic on an Apple product as I am on this one. I see chrome and glitz and style but no substance that would make it worth the money, make it worth adding to my life. I really feel the Apple Watch could be the companies New Coke. Their Edsel.

But I very well could be wrong.

The comments about the ipod were 50 times more negative than about the watch... They got all archive for your enjoyment on this site. Iphone, slightly less negative but still massive. Apple has very little risk in getting this thing out considering the number of phones and the breadth of their ecosystem. The watch has been well receive as a fashion object, the toughest test, and I'm sure it will crush the performance and usefullness of all other watches on the market right now. If they sell 10M next year, that's still a much bigger launch than the Ipod or Iphone and 1-2B dollars in profit in the bank.

 

[Aloft085]

Socket bit + powerdrill = never run out of power.

But doesn't that run on battery power as well? Hmm.

 

[Rogifan]

I read something about Jobs giving Ive tenure or something to that effect. He has full creative freedom he can basically do whatever he wants without being checked by anyone else in the company. So to answer your questions I guess yea, because I don't think Tim is very involved in product design, he's more of a business guy.

Jobs is dead. Whatever he said/did doesn't matter as Cook is running the show now. I highly doubt anyone under Cook can do whatever they want, especially since Cook is the one pushing intense collaboration amongst his directs.

 

[samcraig]

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It's not splitting hairs! How can you review a device when you're not able to use the software? So far no one has been given a device to use. Any "reviews" either came from the hands on area at the event or from someone who got time with the watch under Apple supervision. In both of those circumstances the device was running demo software. We don't know how long it takes to charge just like we don't know how long it can go without a charge (other than Cook saying you'll probably need to charge it each night with heavy use). Apple has not made any of that information public. I'm not sure why it's important right now considering the device isn't available for sale.

You are splitting hairs because you knew what I was asking and getting at. I said "I might have missed this in the reviews - but how long does a full charge take on the Apple watch. That should be part of the equation if you're going to gripe."

So no reviews. But rather than harp on the fact there are no reviews (who gives a flying fig) you could simply state that so far - there's been no discussion on how long it takes to charge.

Hey I get it - you're fired up tonight. And I am sure I didn't help by calling you out on your comment that apple would NEVER release a watch that only had one day worth of battery.