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I really don't like it when "Not Steve" gets up there and tries to emulate Steve but then says things very "Not Steve".
 
I have the iPhone X 64gig and thats all I need. I use Plex to back up all my photos and stream all my music from my own server. I don't need anything more.
And your point? Anecdotal stories doesn't mean anything. At these prices, Apple should be putting in much more storage. Or are you content with Apple's sky high prices and profits?
At what point do you say enough is enough? $2000? $3000?
 
Hard to get excited nowadays they just replace the images and the keynote is the same s the previews year.

Fastest iPhone ever
Best iPhone we have ever done
2X speed

Throw in some Bionic and Retia here and there and you have the 2019 Keynote ready.

It is hard to believe there are still people buying the same thing over and over.
 
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Serving everyone...? He only wants to serve the investors.

An iphone costs the same than a computer and almost double the iPad?

The only low option Apple is offering is 2 year old technology iPhone.
 
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/26/iphone-se-demand-is-strong/

Demand was strong in 2016. Demand was strong enough to keep it on sale for another 2 and a half years. Demand is obviously weaker now because they haven't updated it.

Where is your data that substantiates your assertion?

And those references were from 2 1/2 years ago.

My assertion is that Apple has a huge volume of of well-analyzed historical sales data that has driven their success.

If you want to believe otherwise, I'm ok with that.
 
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When they finally announced the prices during the event, there was awkward silence in the crowd. A deafening silence. In an S year, the expectation was there would be a price drop, if only by $50.
 
My assertion is that Apple has a huge volume of of well-analyzed historical sales data that has driven their success.

If you want to believe otherwise, I'm ok with that.

Yes that show the SE sells well (as seen by its market share in many countries), and it shows that profit margins aren't as great with the SE, so it had to go.
 
I think it has effectively pushed me into keeping my products well into 3-4 years or more range.
Thankfully, just a mid cycle battery replacement and they actually do last that long so it's win-win.

I’v been keeping my phones for 3-4 years since the beginning. I personally just don’t want to spend a lot of money on having a phone.

The good news is iOS 12 will make older phones run better. So performance wise you should get more longevity out of an older phone.

But eventually my SE will just not work, apps won’t work, or it won’t work well with the Apple ecosystem I’m in. I’ll need a replacement. Nothing in the current Apple line appeals to me because I simply don’t want a large phone. The SE size is exactly the size I want.

I did occur to me that the original SE came out in March. So maybe Apple will come out with a phone I would buy before the next main iPhone models are released. I could definitely see them trying to push people to buy their super expensive phones by not having the SE type option for now.
 
For anyone who wants to send a message to Tim that the prices are too high, don't buy it. When they see sales are low, then they will start dropping prices. At the rate of production of the phones and sudden huge inventory because less people are buying, they will have to do something. If this repeats next year, they will think twice about over-pricing. Be patient and wait it out. Just think about cars, car dealers will offer specials due to large inventory and/or year-end sales to make room for new models.
 
Indeed it is, but still... he’s about to literally destroy millions of X units (the “most innovative phone ever”) just 1 year after launch in pursuit of profit. Gotta acknowledge that.

Most likely because iPhone X at a lower price + iOS 12 (faster) would have been a very compelling option chosen by many and would have eaten into the iPhone Xs sales... Which means they don't see enough improvements/features in the iPhone Xs compared to the X and don't want to risk it.
I'm also not convinced they have loads of X left because they probably stopped producing them a while ago so I'd say very minimal losses...
 
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I have 64GB on my iPhone 6 and still have 40GB left. I guess it depends how many photos and music you want to carry. My laptop has 256GB and has been more than enough.
And in other news, some people actually use their laptops and phones.
 
And just about as powerful. If they’d just let us run Mac OS we’d have a terrific all-in-one solution.
Except the phones use ARM processors and feature even less ports than the laptop Macs, and offer much smaller form factors and no physical keyboards; however, a top-end iPhone with 512 GB storage easily competes with the latest MacBook and MBP offerings (which sport 512 GB SSDs, fragile keyboards, one to four USB-C slots, and a headphone jack) in most respects. I can see clear advantages for MacOS with larger form factors such as the iPad - less so for the iPhones in their current incarnations.
 



At an event in Cupertino yesterday, Apple announced three new iPhone models: the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR. Prices for the iPhones start at $749 for the iPhone XR in 64GB, and increase to as much as $1,449 for the iPhone XS Max in 512GB, which represents Apple's most expensive iPhone to date.

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Commenting on this price range in an interview with Nikkei today, Apple CEO Tim Cook said, "We want to serve everyone." Apple introduced the iPhone XR at a cheaper price point so that customers who wanted the advantages of the iPhone X line -- Face ID, an edge-to-edge screen -- could find them on a lower-cost iPhone.
Likewise, the iPhone XS Max represents Apple's biggest iPhone yet, and serves the customers who enjoyed the features of the 2017 iPhone X, but wished it came in a larger size.
Apple will also still sell the previous generation iPhone 7 and iPhone 8, at new lower prices. The iPhone 7 will now start at $449 in 32GB and increase to as much as $669 for the iPhone 7 Plus in 128GB. The iPhone 8 will start at $599 in 64GB and rise to $849 for the iPhone 8 Plus in 256GB.

Discussing the iPhone in general, Cook says that, "The role of the iPhone has become much larger in people's lives," and that will justify the price of the devices for many customers.

Those interested will be able to pre-order their iPhone XS or iPhone XS Max beginning tomorrow, September 14, and the smartphones will then launch on September 21 in over 30 countries and territories. The iPhone XR will go up for pre-order in about a month, on Friday, October 19, and then launch on October 26.

In addition to the iPhone, Apple yesterday also announced the Apple Watch Series 4 with a 30 percent larger display, thinner body, ECG reader, fall detection, and more. Similar to iPhone XS, Apple Watch Series 4 pre-orders will go up on September 14 and the smartwatch will launch on September 21.

Article Link: Tim Cook on iPhone Prices: 'We Want to Serve Everyone'

I can't believe how much Apple is gouging consumers this time around. But hey, you don't have to buy if you don't want to. If the market sustains the pricing then you can't really blame Apple. Plus I invest in their stocks so it's a good thing for me, most analysts believe their stock will keep going up as it has been even after introducing the very highly priced X. For me it's worth the premium to be free from the Google privacy nightmare, no way I'd ever go back to Android after the almost daily privacy scandals from that side. Plus I think Apple has the best hardware, their bezel/notch design leapfrogged everyone else and no one has caught up yet.

What may end up happening is that consumers will hold onto their phones for longer. This is already happening, but the flagship price wars will only increase this trend. Personally I have no issues affording a new iPhone every year, but this year I'm pretty sure I will use my XsMax for 2 years because of the pricing and put the money to better use.
 
The thing about "how contracts used to work," though, is that you actually paid more than that. Often a LOT more. With the old two-year contract/upgrade system, if you didn't upgrade the very month your account was eligible, you were paying for a phone that was already technically paid off. I had my 4S for 3 years. I was upgrade-eligible after 2. So for a $649 phone (unlocked price), I really paid $874, and they hid that away from me by not breaking down how much of my monthly bill went towards the plan and how much went towards the phone.

My point in all this is that iPhones have always been pretty damn expensive, we just didn't know it. $749 for the 2018 entry level is NOT bad at all, considering the 2011 entry level was only $100 less and there have been massive improvements in the technology since then. And especially considering that, if you keep your phone longer than 2 years, the modern version is CHEAPER than the years-old versions!

I found Tim Cook's username on MacRumors - it's seinman :)
 
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I haven’t read all the comments, so I’m sure that this has been said already. When has Apple ever cared about cost? Apple doesn’t care that you don’t want to spend $1500 for an iPhone. I’m not trying to be mean, but if you don’t want to spend that much on a phone then don’t. Apple is offering cheaper alternatives that still work amazingly well and will continue to get software updates well beyond any Android phone on the market.
 
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Yes that show the SE sells well (as seen by its market share in many countries), and it shows that profit margins aren't as great with the SE, so it had to go.

The GPM is there. It's just not meeting sales expectations for an update (and resulting ROI) to make sense.
 
Except the phones use ARM processors and feature even less ports than the laptop Macs, and offer much smaller form factors and no physical keyboards; however, a top-end iPhone with 512 GB storage easily competes with the latest MacBook and MBP offerings (which sport 512 GB SSDs, fragile keyboards, one to four USB-C slots, and a headphone jack) in most respects. I can see clear advantages for MacOS with larger form factors such as the iPad - less so for the iPhones in their current incarnations.

Keyboard and monitor are already useable. It’s the mouse and OS we’d need. I could do without ports (would be nice if they had a TB3 instead of lightning). Seriously, I dream about that setup. Then again, I’m probably in the minority.
 
The iPhone Xr is pretty similar to the Huawei P20 Lite. The iPhone has FaceID and the A12 Bionic, but the P20 Lite has a 2280x1080 screen and fingerprint reader. They both have 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, but the P20 Lite has Micro SD slot upto 256GB and a dual camera setup. Yes, the P20 Lite has copied the notch and vertical cameras from the X, but it's not a bad looking phone. The prices... iPhone Xr £749.99, Huawei P20 Lite £279.95. Is the iPhone £470 better? I honestly couldn't say so. If any family members were looking for a cheap iPhone and were contemplating the Xr, I would honestly have to recommend the Huawei.

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The big problem is that the Huawei P20 doesn't have iOS!
 
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