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If you're curious, like me, as to apple's technology behind the scenes I think this link fleshes out the details a bit more.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/09/apple-researches-a-new-haptic-option-more.html

Thank-you - - that's a great background link on perhaps the Apple Watch's most under-anticipated feature.

One application that hints at the Taptic Engine's possibilities is with Maps...

It can tap you on the right side of your wrist to go right for walking directions, and on the left side of your wrist to go left.
 
I'm sure Apple will be able to get some neat effects, but as far as tapping goes, I think that even older eccentric motors would do just fine.

I admit I don't really understand the technology behind this, but I haven't heard of any other products that tap you on the wrist. If there are older tech that can do this, but Apple is the first one to think of using it to tap people on the wrist, is that a new invention?
 
it funny to see how people are not interest at all on the :apple:watch but apple watche articles got the most comments. :rolleyes: 480 here wow! :p
 
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I don't actually believe that $349 is a big ask for this device. People routinely pay thousands of dollars for watches that do nothing but tell time, and not even that accurately. Even fashion watches routinely cost hundreds of dollars.

This is basically a computer with retina display on your wrist, so the fact it is only $349 is amazing.

I'll be happy to pay more for the stainless steel model.

I would agree with you entirely IF:
1. it were water proof enough to swim with (not dive). At the very least approved for showering with. All indications to date are that it is not

2. the battery life with 'real world use' is at least 2 days.

I would pay more for a stainless steel one as well. But not the first generation watch. Later down the road perhaps.
 
My last watch was ~$4000 it'll need a cleaning about every decade that will cost ~400. Calculating my age to current expected life span I'll pay ~.34 a day for my watch. I don't think the problem is so much the price it's the price attached to disposable tech, tech that will need security updates and the like that it's not likely to get. This really applies to all smart wearables not just Apple wearables.

Thats why amortized the apple watch cost over one year: about a dollar a day. Apple will certainly support the product with security updates for one year! I dont understand your comment

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I don't actually believe that $349 is a big ask for this device. People routinely pay thousands of dollars for watches that do nothing but tell time, and not even that accurately. Even fashion watches routinely cost hundreds of dollars.
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But expensive watches are attractive or convey status. The apple watch is ugly and heavy, and conveys brand participation--but not really status. Does it do more than tell time? It will tell you your pulse, it will tell you if you have a phonecall or text, and if you squint, you might able to use it for maps.

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Do you read Tarot cards as well ?

No, but I study products and markets. I dont need to tap the face of the apple watch for a month to assess how it will function. Its all there in the presentation. Same with windows 8. I should add I like windows 8, but it was clear that windows 8 and its rt vario were going to confuse a lot of consumers
 
Thats why amortized the apple watch cost over one year: about a dollar a day. Apple will certainly support the product with security updates for one year! I dont understand your comment

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But expensive watches are attractive or convey status. The apple watch is ugly and heavy, and conveys brand participation--but not really status. Does it do more than tell time? It will tell you your pulse, it will tell you if you have a phonecall or text, and if you squint, you might able to use it for maps.

I just typed a long post but this is a forum not a blog, it was intended to illustrate the timeless of non-smart watches. It's not intended to be a criticism of you or a smart watch.
 
If you're curious, like me, as to apple's technology behind the scenes I think this link fleshes out the details a bit more.http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2012/09/apple-researches-a-new-haptic-option-more.html

Thank you. According to the patent, they use a standard magnetic linear vibrator and add a boosted mode where a rod goes outside and bangs (taps) on the device case itself. Let me draw it:

taptic.png

One application that hints at the Taptic Engine's possibilities is with Maps...
It can tap you on the right side of your wrist to go right for walking directions, and on the left side of your wrist to go left.

That blogger is fantasizing. Apple never said any such thing. (Nor does the patent above allow it.)

What Apple did say in the keynote (as correctly reported by others) is that the watch would provide a different feeling for each direction to go.

As in perhaps a long vibration for go-left, and a short burst for go-right.

I admit I don't really understand the technology behind this, but I haven't heard of any other products that tap you on the wrist. If there are older tech that can do this, but Apple is the first one to think of using it to tap people on the wrist, is that a new invention?

Yep, looks like it's an invention that combines a tapper and a vibrator in one unit. A short vibrator burst can also feel like a tap, of course, but this would be stronger.
 
Knowing it's connected means you know it's accurate.
From Apple site...

"Working with iPhone, Apple Watch continually checks against the definitive global time standard with the same precision found in GPS satellites."

Doesn't sound very connected without the phone....

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Will it have a GPS receiver? If not, it's more useless than I imagined.
Per Apple site it relies on the phone for wifi/gps so no, not built in it seems.
 
He said it would need to be charged daily, that's the extent of what he said. He never gave any figures.

Well, I believe his "Apple Script" was actually along the lines of:

You are going to enjoy using this product so much, you are going to want to charge it each day.

Or something like that, which you have correctly decoded into English :)
 
That mentality destroyed BlackBerry.

Long-term a product needs to justify itself. MacBooks, iMacs, iPods, iPhones, etc all do that. Products that don't--even Apple products--are overlooked like the Apple TV.

Long-term? Totally agree.
But for launches... Does not matter what product they're launching. If there is a new product with an apple logo on it, there will be a large enough customer base at launch to justify R&D, production, Marketing, etc. (see Apple TV). Can't think of another company that has this unique luxury: make money while beta testing ideas/products. It's pretty remarkable.

Cheers.
 
Give the guy a break. What sort of innovation do you expect? It seems like everyone expects miracles these days. How long did it take to go from punch cards to command line? Command line to GUI? GUI to touch? True innovation (not the "add a feature and call it innovation" that most companies do today) takes decades. No one is innovating these days. They are iterating. A reliable, voice-driven UI is the next big innovation, but we are years away. Today's assistants like Siri are just the beginning. I don't think we'll see any major paradigm shift for at least another decade.

I also think you're totally wrong about Google too. Now with Ray Kurzweil serving as their spiritual guru, I think Google is going to attempt some pretty crazy ambitious things in the future. They're already investing heavily in AI and robotics, two areas of great interest to Kurzweil. Singularity here we come...

Ok, Your correct. :apple:
 
Long-term? Totally agree.
But for launches... Does not matter what product they're launching. If there is a new product with an apple logo on it, there will be a large enough customer base at launch to justify R&D, production, Marketing, etc. (see Apple TV). Can't think of another company that has this unique luxury: make money while beta testing ideas/products. It's pretty remarkable.

Cheers.

Your mentality is classical bad business.

Good marketing departments--like the one Apple has--spend millions of dollars on ads, billions on maintaining an image. The last thing they want is to hurt the brand by releasing junk.
 
I've already told and proven to you that he said it would need to be charged daily.

ThaT,s not just what you were saying before . you think I have no memory or what.

He said you'll love using it so much that you'll want to charge it each day. Does that look like a product you baby till the end of the damn day. Its a product you use a lot and it goes till the end of the day.... Like the Iphone.

Everything else is rumors and invention.

You'll also notice that there are 2 watches, one 2/3 the volume of larger one with the same functionality. So, how long does the big one last, please spit me so quote about that.
 
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I doubted Apple on the iPod, I doubted again on the iPhone, and I totally thought the iPad would flop. I don't see how this watch is going to be a success, but I've been proven wrong way too many times to call this one a disaster in waiting.
 
ThaT,s not just what you were saying before . you think I have no memory or what.

He said you'll love using it so much that you'll want to charge it each day. Does that look like a product you baby till the end of the damn day. Its a product you use a lot and it goes till the end of the day.... Like the Iphone.

Everything else is rumors and invention.

You'll also notice that there are 2 watches, one 2/3 the volume of larger one with the same functionality. So, how long does the big one last, please spit me so quote about that.
It's exactly what I said, that you want to remember it differently is your problem.
 
From Apple site...

"Working with iPhone, Apple Watch continually checks against the definitive global time standard with the same precision found in GPS satellites."

Doesn't sound very connected without the phone....

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Per Apple site it relies on the phone for wifi/gps so no, not built in it seems.

Definitely more connected than most high end watches. And as long as you're connecting (seamlessly) to the iPhone occasionally, you can rest assured that you are seeing the right time when you look at your watch. If you have to manually change the time as you have to on most high end watches, you're guessing the correct time and allowing your estimation to be the correct time until you change it again.
 
One application that hints at the Taptic Engine's possibilities is with Maps...
It can tap you on the right side of your wrist to go right for walking directions, and on the left side of your wrist to go left.
That blogger is fantasizing. Apple never said any such thing. (Nor does the patent above allow it.)

What Apple did say in the keynote (as correctly reported by others) is that the watch would provide a different feeling for each direction to go.

As in perhaps a long vibration for go-left, and a short burst for go-right.

I watched the keynote like everybody else and heard exactly what Kevin Lynch said at 1:25:57 of the video. Your proposed long-short code is a much or more of a fantasy as the blogger's. I simply don't believe that Apple will resort to something as unintuitive as a primitive form of morse code to communicate direction in maps when they have featured it so prominently. The listed patent was filed almost three years ago, perhaps by now Apple has enhanced the linear actuator such that it is mounted horizontally and the tap rod extends to surfaces at both the left and right sides of the Apple Watch. Time will tell.
 
I doubted Apple on the iPod, I doubted again on the iPhone, and I totally thought the iPad would flop. I don't see how this watch is going to be a success, but I've been proven wrong way too many times to call this one a disaster in waiting.

Wow--i think your luck was about to change! I'm interested that apple is all in on this product--no talk of "hobby" product like apple tv. This comment by Cook is another indicator that apple is "all in" on wearable tech.
 
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