LOL! kind of like when they had that video after antenna-gate saying "hey, if you grip a blackberry or a moto q this way it also drops signal, we are not the only people who suck!
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Tim Cook Publishes Open Letter on Maps for iOS 6
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LOL! kind of like when they had that video after antenna-gate saying "hey, if you grip a blackberry or a moto q this way it also drops signal, we are not the only people who suck!
Chances are you can blame Steve Jobs for this map issues. It was well known he was more involved in the iPhone 5 and had laid plans out for that. This means those plans were already to far in motion for Cook to really change the direction. All he could do is try to minimize the damage. The iOS developers would of moved on to iOS 6 for the most part a few weeks before the beta test. All they would of been doing is fixing bugs but most of the time spent on iOS6.
Steve Jobs was running the company at that time which means Google maps was planned on being yanked.
Do you have a DUMB app, or is it native in your OS ?
We're not talking of a new feature that is lame, like for instance SIRI.
We are talking of an existing feature that is made lame.
I guess you won't care if in iOS7 Apple changes their phone app, and you can then only make calls in your village:
Caus' you will "only have to wait for a few years to improve."
"And it already works much better than A. G. Bell's phone when it came out !"
Lots of people are saying what Imaginary Steve would or wouldn't have done.
Since the real Steve Jobs is no longer around to refute, Imaginary Steve will do anything you want, and say anything you want him to say.
I don't trust Imaginary Steve, or anyone who invokes him.
And Steve is with me on that, 100%
Since the real Steve Jobs is no longer around to refute, Imaginary Steve will do anything you want, and say anything you want him to say.
I don't trust Imaginary Steve, or anyone who invokes him.
And Steve is with me on that, 100%
Apple should have left google maps installed for another year. And also have Apple Maps as a beta installed or a download. Then given people App Store credit for helping make it more accurate.
I didn't pay you to bump in to me. A lot of people paid for new, superior iPhones.
Look I admire Tim Cook admitting his failure on this one. But what choice did he have? Apple Maps is an inferior product, even when compared to google maps in iOS 5.
Yeah iOS 6 alone is free, but in regard to maps it's still a downgrade. And apple doesn't make it easy to roll back to iOS 5.
I don't know why so many people are defending these maps. I love iOS but I am not going to defend Apple every time they screw something up.
FWIW I didn't even know GMaps had streetview until a few months ago and i've been using iPhones since the 3GS.
From an education point 3D maps is much more useful.
And from, you know, using a Maps app to actually FIND the spot your looking for, or how adjacent parking lots might or might not connect to each other without going back out on the street, or where nearby restaurants or other businesses face in relationship to where you are going, etc.. etc.., Street View is far more useful than 3D Flyover.
Mark
Not trolling. I wouldn't go back to the old maps even if I could. Street view is pointless. I didn't realize that transit directions didn't exist anymore, but even that is just a luxury. I get around Boston just fine without them.
I think the open letter is pretty classy. No excuses they admitted the problem.
Even apple can make mistakes and people seem to have a hard time with that.
If google maps were still on ios6 it would not have had turn by turn with VoiceOver which people would have complained about.
Even apple can make mistakes and people seem to have a hard time with that.
If google maps were still on ios6 it would not have had turn by turn with VoiceOver which people would have complained about.
For the way I use Maps, I'm not having any trouble with it. 3D on my iPad can make palm trees look really interesting but I understand that. I also remember how rudimentary Google Maps were on the very first iPhone. For a first release, Apple Maps is pretty good. It needs to improve and it will.
Google has been sitting on its hands for two years. They recently updated the satellite photos of some areas but that's about all. The product worked but it had ceased to grow. Apple is looking at taking handheld maps further and I'm willing to hang in there with them as they take their first steps.
Apple Maps passed my acid test of finding my old condo in San Diego. Every one of the dedicated GPS devices out there directs me to drive through a concrete barrier that has been in place about 20 years (I saw it go in). Apple Maps correctly routes me in on another street to the garage entrance of the building. Getting that right is a trick I did not expect. I'll cut Apple some slack.
Google has been sitting on its hands for two years. They recently updated the satellite photos of some areas but that's about all. The product worked but it had ceased to grow. Apple is looking at taking handheld maps further and I'm willing to hang in there with them as they take their first steps.
Apple Maps passed my acid test of finding my old condo in San Diego. Every one of the dedicated GPS devices out there directs me to drive through a concrete barrier that has been in place about 20 years (I saw it go in). Apple Maps correctly routes me in on another street to the garage entrance of the building. Getting that right is a trick I did not expect. I'll cut Apple some slack.
This has got to be one of the low points of Apple. Who wrote this letter, because it is horrible? You never admit you are wrong (you fix it), You never EVER advertise a competing product.
Sorry, we have no brains for you, but you could get some from a hamster or a worm.
Have a nice day Sir.
I agree it's a nice fluid experience. What ruins it is inaccurate data.
That said, Apple has quite a ways to go to get things up to par. It's no easy task.
That was a total non-issue. People just love blowing anything that makes Apple look imperfect out of proportion.
To me - thats a little bit too much. No reason to excuse like this. Maps isn't great, ok, but they are improving and for me it works just fine. If not - yeah use Google Map Web App.
Completely agree. This tarnishes Apple even more than the Maps in my opinion. Makes Cook look incredibly weak which is not what you want in a CEO of a company in an extremely competitive marketplace.
There was absolutely zero reason for Cook and Apple to apologize. If people want a different map solution they can download another app. Jobs would never have admitted a problem or apologized, and this is the reason that Apple is going down the ******* with Cook at the helm.
OK, here are 2 screen captures, of Big Ben's location.
in one case it is correctly placed in london, in the other case it finds 'london road, in Staten Island, New York.
both are genuine screen captures, but one is a 'fake' (obtained by playing with the address.
guess which one?
point is, people can and will purposedly post BS just to 'score a point'.
again, the app ahs major issues, but a lot of what is reported is BS.
in one case it is correctly placed in london, in the other case it finds 'london road, in Staten Island, New York.
both are genuine screen captures, but one is a 'fake' (obtained by playing with the address.
guess which one?
point is, people can and will purposedly post BS just to 'score a point'.
again, the app ahs major issues, but a lot of what is reported is BS.
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Oh because knowing what your unknown destination looks like is pointless, a bumpy aerial view will suffice. And getting your train schedule on the fly is nothing but a luxury and we should be happy they gave us what we've got? Get off it mate, 'You should know everything beforehand anyway' excuse is lame.
Apple should restart signing 5.1.1 on older devices up to 4s. Granted IP5 may not support 5.1.1 but there is no reason (other than arrogance) not to allow 5.1.1 on 4s thru standard restore process.
Source? And were you in the most recent negotiations to verify this was still the case even IF true in 2009?
People keep trying to draw parallels with Jobs failures but they are nowhere near on the scale of Maps.
1. FCPX - a product that was released in a stupid way somewhat unfinished. But it's an incredibly fluid editor that's a dream to work with and many of the missing Pro features like multicam are back.
2. The Cube - a gorgeous piece of industrial design with massively high owner satisfaction. Didn't make sense as it cost the same as a more expandable G4 tower.
3. MobileMe - not bad per se, just very anaemic. Third-party options covered the ground better.
4. The Flower Power iMac. Wasn't like you were forced to use it.
5. Xserve. A very small seller. Apple made a killer product but had no background in enterprise servers so it was seldom used as more than a small officer server. Could have handled the transition better.
Maps degraded massively the user experience of millions of iOS users. If mapping is one of your major reasons for owning a smartphone they've really crippled your handset.
1. FCPX - a product that was released in a stupid way somewhat unfinished. But it's an incredibly fluid editor that's a dream to work with and many of the missing Pro features like multicam are back.
2. The Cube - a gorgeous piece of industrial design with massively high owner satisfaction. Didn't make sense as it cost the same as a more expandable G4 tower.
3. MobileMe - not bad per se, just very anaemic. Third-party options covered the ground better.
4. The Flower Power iMac. Wasn't like you were forced to use it.
5. Xserve. A very small seller. Apple made a killer product but had no background in enterprise servers so it was seldom used as more than a small officer server. Could have handled the transition better.
Maps degraded massively the user experience of millions of iOS users. If mapping is one of your major reasons for owning a smartphone they've really crippled your handset.
If Apple had set aside the "thermonuclear war" offensive for the sake of its customers, iOS 6 users could have had the best maps on the planet (Google), turn-by-turn navigation, Street View, AND 3D Flyover:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/28/3422656/google-maps-45-degree-satellite-imagery-update
Apple is reinventing a wheel that already exists. Apple's wheel will NEVER be equal to the wheel that already exists. Even if Apple is able to catch up to where Google is at today, by the time Apple gets there Google will still be 5-10 years ahead.
Apple should agree to Google's terms and give the customers what they deserve with their iPhone purchases, the BEST possible mapping solution!
Mark
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/28/3422656/google-maps-45-degree-satellite-imagery-update
Apple is reinventing a wheel that already exists. Apple's wheel will NEVER be equal to the wheel that already exists. Even if Apple is able to catch up to where Google is at today, by the time Apple gets there Google will still be 5-10 years ahead.
Apple should agree to Google's terms and give the customers what they deserve with their iPhone purchases, the BEST possible mapping solution!
Mark