Apple is open... To anybody able to pay premium prices. Good one, Tim! He actually said "open to anyone regardless of (cut) income (cut)".
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Tim Cook Reminds Employees 'Apple Is Open' After Australian Retail Store Employee Bars Black Teens
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When the government is involved in everything, everything becomes political. Australia has a big government, one of the five eyes, for one thing.
Skin color, hair color etc don't matter.
As is equal rights for the LGBT community, apparently.
Is it somehow obvious that the employees asked them to leave because of their skin color ? Or, is it somehow obvious that the employees would behave differently if the group of teenagers where whites ? Everyone seems eager to automatically mark them as racists, but how is this obvious from the article ? I just see some ill-tempered employees who should not be in that position because of their bad behavior. Why is this turning to racial issue so easily ?
A white Australian of European descent said to me once, without a hint of self awareness or irony: "Everyone coming to Australia should have to integrate and be more like us indigenous Australians"
So incidents like this are not a surprise.
So incidents like this are not a surprise.
That dude needs to be fired, no trained. His parents did a shi**y job training him for life.
It's easy to jump to conclusions on the Internet. Pot/kettle/black, no?
Due to Macrumors wants to be politically correct and following the lead of Tim Cook. I would like to apologize to those who cannot voice their opinions.
But I'm not up on a soap box like Cook is. Tim's moral compass shouldn't work only when money isn't involved.
Considering the WORLDWIDE attention this incident gathered it seems logical to me that that employee got the message loud and clear - stunningly -- in a worldwide court of opinion and from the companies CEO.. Firing the guy in my eye wouldn't have been as big as allowing a person opportunity at redemption and amends. NONE of us are perfect, in our professional OR personal lives.
Apple -- thumbs up!
He could have at least gave each of the kids their choice of iPod Shuffles.
Cheap bastards.
Cheap bastards.
1 incident is not a "culture of..."
one video is not an "epidemic"
As was seen in videos of issues is there is 10 minutes before and 10 minutes after, and that plays into the decisions being made by all involved, both good and bad. I'm more of a "let's see what else comes out about this..." kind of person.
Monday Morning Quarterbacks never make bad decisions, as the consequence of the bad ones is there for everyone to see, and it's easy to say, "I wouldn't do what led to that bad consequence*"
*This is being said as a fan of the Seahawks and not a fan of the outcome of last year's Super Bowl.
one video is not an "epidemic"
As was seen in videos of issues is there is 10 minutes before and 10 minutes after, and that plays into the decisions being made by all involved, both good and bad. I'm more of a "let's see what else comes out about this..." kind of person.
Monday Morning Quarterbacks never make bad decisions, as the consequence of the bad ones is there for everyone to see, and it's easy to say, "I wouldn't do what led to that bad consequence*"
*This is being said as a fan of the Seahawks and not a fan of the outcome of last year's Super Bowl.
Is there any video leading up this incident?
Plus we all know Apple hates backpacks!
Plus we all know Apple hates backpacks!
Have you seen the video? There isn't a lot of room for interpretation. Please see the video first and then tell comment. I am not part of a lynch mob. I often time think everyone gets the short into a bunch for all the wrong reasons and the race card gets pull too quickly. But this seems to be pretty clear to me after watching the video.
All one has to do is look for the discussion on this topic in the politics forum on this site, racism is still running rampant, sadly.
I will be very honest, I have noticed multiple times at AppleStore, retail reps rushing to help/woo white customers (greater odds of having a higher disposable income) while all the other ethnic groups roam around the store asking for someone to help them. Its sad to see that at Apple but I guess its all about sales.
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The guy on the left looks like he wants to steal something. Perhaps also the guy second from the right. A couple of the guys look fine. Based on the photo I might be concerned.
Now I'll have to go see the video. Sounds like I'll see an inappropriate response from the employee(s).
Now I'll have to go see the video. Sounds like I'll see an inappropriate response from the employee(s).
Political nature? WOW.
It was 6 young males (according to a local newspaper) wearing backpacks inside a store. They don't look like criminals but it would be better if we saw a video on how they were acting inside the store. Were they acting suspicious? Maybe not. Bottom line? We don't know.
Clickbait news. Move on.
It was 6 young males (according to a local newspaper) wearing backpacks inside a store. They don't look like criminals but it would be better if we saw a video on how they were acting inside the store. Were they acting suspicious? Maybe not. Bottom line? We don't know.
Clickbait news. Move on.
I see no problem with what the employee did.
He identified the group of children with backpacks as a threat to the Apple Store, and decided to eliminate that threat by asking for them to leave. Any group of people that moves as a pack is a potential threat, and tends to be intimidating to other customers. There will have been several factors that led to the request, not least, the presence of several large backpacks.
Just as Apple, under Tim Cook, exercise their right to search the bags of employees without restriction, so they exercise their right to remove members of the public from the store. Tim should be proud that his employee did the right thing, and the employee should be rewarded with a pay rise or bonus.
He identified the group of children with backpacks as a threat to the Apple Store, and decided to eliminate that threat by asking for them to leave. Any group of people that moves as a pack is a potential threat, and tends to be intimidating to other customers. There will have been several factors that led to the request, not least, the presence of several large backpacks.
Just as Apple, under Tim Cook, exercise their right to search the bags of employees without restriction, so they exercise their right to remove members of the public from the store. Tim should be proud that his employee did the right thing, and the employee should be rewarded with a pay rise or bonus.
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This is Australia mate. We don't ***** foot around like you lot. Everyone involved in the incident needs to go down to the pub (even the kids) get a few beers in them, say something someone doesn't like, then when it's lock out have a punch up out side. Problem solved, case closed. Australian justice.
I thought the video that I just watched an Apple employee was involved. An employee should represent the company and that should be part of their training. I don't know about the law in Australia but obviously the store ("Apple" Store) team and management handled the situation inappropriately. You don't even want to know how did you got your iToys and so Apple is not always innocent.
Yes, be diligent but preemptively taking steps when you truly do not know is systemically what's wrong here. Walking, driving, shopping while black is NOT a crime and without any sliver of evidence that a crime is being committed, they have no right to treat them as such.