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Tim Cook Responds to Facebook Criticism of iOS App Tracking Transparency Changes, Says It's 'Hard To Argue Against' Privacy

Privacy is important, but so is properly informing consumers with a more accurate text dialog ... Apple should agree, it’s user agreement is incredibly long
 
Facebook is going about this whole situation the wrong way. Instead of fighting these privacy changes, their PR machines should be in full gear to explain to consumers the benefit they get. Facebook and Google both offer extensive products and services to consumers at no monetary cost, they monetize user data instead and hope you buy something from a targeted ad. Their current approach makes it look like they’re hiding something whereas a smarter approach would be to say “Look at everything we give you at no outward cost in exchange for the data we collect” and let consumers decide whether the services offered are worth the privacy trade offs involved. If consumers aren’t comfortable with FB/Google’s business practices then those companies should make an effort to understand their customers’ concerns and either be more transparent about their practices or change them, not attack the companies trying to offer consumers a choice.
 
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I love that Facebook initially responded with, “this will hurt the small business and we’re going to fight for them.” Then a couple weeks later, “we’ll actually come out on top so forget all that stuff we were saying earlier.”
 
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xyz01 said:
The full context here is that these snippets were anonymous, and no longer connected to a user. It would also not be entire conversations, but situations that triggered Siri and Siri didn't understand.

Sure, it's better now where you are asked when you set up the device and then the same thing happens as before - but I just don't see that as a big deal.

There are aspects of Apple's business I find problematic (usually ones related to using position in one market to get positions in others), but privacy is not one of them.
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Sorry but your take is absolutely wrong. There is nothing to say that the audio recording didn’t contain identifying information let alone the myriad of other absurdities you’ve decided to skim over. How on earth can you side with Apple here...?
 
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Ads have value until they add tracking especially targeted tracking. Facebook the worst tracking organization.
 
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The_Gream said:
The bag thing I am pretty sure got taken care of (not saying I wouldn’t have fought for something better or compensation), but the employees knew about the bag search rule when they took the job, so I can’t feel to sad for them.
The IDFA was created to centralize the tracking (and people always had the ability to turn it off - sort of) and allow Apple more control over the information. Just like a lot of decisions made, hindsight is 20/20.

You mean the people who clicked okay on allowing Apple to collect their data in an unlinked to them method to make improvements to Apple services?
The people agreed to it, but probably forgot they agreed to it - and from my experience most people don’t read the question in the set up phase of their tech products and just click “Accept/Next” then complain later about what ever the issue is.
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Reason077 said:
This was added afterwards. Initially, Apple was potentially collecting any Siri conversations - there was no explicit consent to do so.
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You get it! Not only was there no explicit consent, even if there was consent it should not be buried inside 20 pages of legal fine print which you have to agree to in order to activate some basic services. It also points to the culture inside Apple and other tech companies which thought this was even a good idea in the first place. Apple is generally more trustworthy than most but they will still do whatever they think they can get away with to turn a profit.
 
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citysnaps said:
Sadly, I think it's really about some people getting emotionally triggered by seeing a picture of Tim Cook. It really doesn't matter what the story or subject matter is. The success Apple has achieved over the years under his leadership will never be enough for some, and provokes jealousy and anger in others. Lashing out is a satisfying feel-good response.
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With regard to TC I believe some are actually angry that under Tim Cook’s leadership apple is where it is. Some wanted apple to fail under TC to prove a point that he is not a fit CEO.

Which is why there is so much binary thinking regarding privacy and the understanding of what it really is.
 
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I agree 100% with what Apple is doing on "this" topic.

However, Apple needs to clean up its own act, as well.

This New Law will help tremendously:

A proposed First New Law would require Apple to disclose per-Category Revenue Numbers for (at least) the iOS App Store here in the States, & require them to do so "at the end of each work week".

And, last but NOT least, to specify what percentage was generated by the Top 10 apps in each category, as well as what percentage of apps in each category that generated NO revenue.

Such a simple First New Law would NOT ONLY illustrate just how catastrophically broken the iOS App Store currently is, but more importantly, very-likely become the Catalyst that forces Apple's Mgmt to quickly fix it.

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For those of you who are UN-aware, the NON-Game portion of the App Store is catastrophically broken !

Either Cook & Schiller couldn't fix it, OR simply didn't want to fix it (because they know 90%+ of the App Store's revenue is Game App-related, & that they've already driven most Adults from the App Store).

Apple's Mgmt is (clearly) obsessed with Game Apps & promoting Apple Arcade.

Yet, they have both a Duty & a Responsibility to promote & recommend the Best Apps, NOT just the Game Apps that are in Apple's best interest !

As such, it's time for the NON-Game portion of the App Store to be spun-off as a Public Utility, taking a fixed 1% commission !
 
Cosmosent said:
I agree 100% with what Apple is doing on "this" topic.

However, Apple needs to clean up its own act, as well.

This New Law will help tremendously:

A proposed First New Law would require Apple to disclose per-Category Revenue Numbers for (at least) the iOS App Store here in the States, & require them to do so "at the end of each work week".

And, last but NOT least, to specify what percentage was generated by the Top 10 apps in each category, as well as what percentage of apps in each category that generated NO revenue.

Such a simple First New Law would NOT ONLY illustrate just how catastrophically broken the iOS App Store currently is, but more importantly, very-likely become the Catalyst that forces Apple's Mgmt to quickly fix it.

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For those of you who are UN-aware, the NON-Game portion of the App Store is catastrophically broken !

Either Cook & Schiller couldn't fix it, OR simply didn't want to fix it (because they know 90%+ of the App Store's revenue is Game App-related, & that they've already driven most Adults from the App Store).

Apple's Mgmt is (clearly) obsessed with Game Apps & promoting Apple Arcade.

Yet, they have both a Duty & a Responsibility to promote & recommend the Best Apps, NOT just the Game Apps that are in Apple's best interest !

As such, it's time for the NON-Game portion of the App Store to be spun-off as a Public Utility, taking a fixed 1% commission !
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How does privacy somehow dovetail into financial reporting? Don’t bother to explain, I’ll break my back trying to understand the contortionist logic behind the answer.
 
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I7guy said:
With regard to TC I believe some are actually angry that under Tim Cook’s leadership apple is where it is. Some wanted apple to fail under TC to prove a point that he is not a fit CEO.

Which is why there is so much binary thinking regarding privacy and the understanding of what it really is.
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For sure on that. And the not so thinly veiled slurs against TC by some speak volumes about that anger and views about his fitness to lead Apple.
 
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travelsheep said:
A horse walks into a bar. Barkeeper: „What's with the long face?”
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"I have bowel cancer."

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Handsome Bacon said:
This company has become so full of it. Pull Twitter and FB out of the app store if you dislike privacy violations and "hate speech" so much. You won't because you're basically cut from the same cloth, or you are just flat out afraid of them. This is posturing, you really don't care.
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Seems you’ve misunderstood. This isn’t about apple saying you can or can’t use personal data, it’s about giving the customer the power to decide for themselves.
 
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bradman83 said:
Facebook is going about this whole situation the wrong way. Instead of fighting these privacy changes, their PR machines should be in full gear to explain to consumers the benefit they get. Facebook and Google both offer extensive products and services to consumers at no monetary cost, they monetize user data instead and hope you buy something from a targeted ad. Their current approach makes it look like they’re hiding something whereas a smarter approach would be to say “Look at everything we give you at no outward cost in exchange for the data we collect” and let consumers decide whether the services offered are worth the privacy trade offs involved. If consumers aren’t comfortable with FB/Google’s business practices then those companies should make an effort to understand their customers’ concerns and either be more transparent about their practices or change them, not attack the companies trying to offer consumers a choice.
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So you see loss of privacy as being returned with many "benefits"?
 
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