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It'd be pretty exciting if they just dropped the device and put their focus back into making a good computer.

I hope not. I'm one of those who actually found a very good purpose of these devices. I have Macbook Pro, but I only use it at home and carry a 12.9 inch iPad Pro outside.
 
Great.

Maybe Tim can finally step up with some vision. Because Apple is coasting on momentum and old ideas.

1. How about simplifying the line-up some and getting rid of the ******** markups

iPads - 5.5, 7.9, 9.4, 10.2; All compatible with the Apple Pencil. All starting at 64gb at base price.

2. Now let's add some catch-up

- Wireless charging using Qi or something easily available
- USB-C port instead of Lightning

3. Now let's crib from everyone else.

- Better screens (full color space, higher brightness, lower darkness) with qdots or OLED
- Run the screens to the edges, curved, like Sharp. Include better palm rejection on the edges

4. Finally, let's actually do something someone else hasn't done.
 
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I hope not. I'm one of those who actually found a very good purpose of these devices. I have Macbook Pro, but I only use it at home and carry a 12.9 inch iPad Pro outside.

You know Apple makes a laptop that's 0.9" smaller and another that's even more powerful that's only 0.4" larger.
 
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Only 1 out of every 10 iPads sold is a Pro, and yet Tim Cook is still spinning it as a positive. There is an obvious reason why the iPad sales have been declining 20% each year. It's the price.

It's not just the price, it's also the fact that a tablet is useless:

Exhibit A:

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  • Tries to be a laptop
  • Has no filesystem
  • Slow CPU if trying to replace laptop
  • iOS is limited
  • requires lots of extra adaptors to get full functionality that a laptop has
  • EXPENSIVE
  • Limited apps
  • Apps that are there are limiting (try doing what Photoshop on the desktop does)
Exhibit B:

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  • Not much bigger than iPad Pro
  • Has a filesystem!!!
  • Accepts a plethora of devices and has the ability to connect up to 4 devices with USB-C
  • Full keyboard
  • Completes every task you can think of and does a lot more than an iPad
  • Technically expensive as new MacBooks are a ripoff, but there are alternatives anyway
  • CPU is really fast.
  • GPU onboard allows you to do much more include some real gaming
Hmmm.... wonder what makes more sense?!
 
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I have an iPad mini 4 for some note taking, media consumption, mail, browsing.. that's it. and it will last me a long time before considering a new iPad.

I could take it more seriously and purchase an iPad pro and play with it to get my workflows right...BUT it's still constraint in software.
I do number crunching all day and both numbers and excel on iOS don't cut it. I could get it to work with an RDS to a windows machine (LAME) but the workflow will be immensely complicated and the amount of version files will explode.

I think Apple wants me to hire swift developers and create our very own apps for our business...NOT gonna work!
 
I have a phone that does all the things a tablet does. Are you deliberately ignoring this fact?

But not necessarily as well.

Let me give you a scenario. Take an iPhone plus model and a 9.7" iPad Pro with Apple Pencil. Mirror both to a projector screen via Apple TV. Now try annotating on a PDF document inside notability using each device in turn.

There is no contest. The iPad Pro fits the screen better because of its 4:3 aspect ratio and the Apple Pencil offers a better writing experience compared to the iPhone. Both can run the same apps on paper, but the form factor alone makes all the difference in usability. Not to mention the iPad has the longer battery life, which will allow it to last an entire day of work while the iPhone will likely be brought to its knees by noon.

Even the iPad mini has a screen twice the size of the iPhone plus. So reading documents will be easier on a larger tablet.

Numbers alone don't always tell the whole story.

You know Apple makes a laptop that's 0.9" smaller and another that's even more powerful that's only 0.4" larger.

Which ultimately means little if the things this added computing power allows me to do that I can’t get done on iOS has very little to do with actually getting my type of work done.
 
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And a lot of people do work from their phones. But occasionally they need a bigger screen. Are you deliberately ignoring that fact?

Yeah, and when they need a bigger screen they usually want a laptop to do stuff, not an enlarged phone that's already done what they could have on the phone. A tablet isn't accomplishing ANYTHING more than what a phone already is.

Tablets are USELESS... thus the declining sales.
 
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Yeah, and when they need a bigger screen they usually want a laptop to do stuff, not an enlarged phone that's already done what they could have on the phone. A tablet isn't accomplishing ANYTHING more than what a phone already is.

Tablets are USELESS... thus the declining sales.


Phil Schiller said something along the lines "if your iPhone doesn't cut it you can move to your iPad and if your iPad doesn't cut it you can move to your laptop"...

Well I love putting my phone down at home and pick up my iPad but I hate the software constraints and the fact that the hardware is a generation behind. all day long i push my screen off on the side and when I'm home, it's back on the top again.
I want to check the weather when I wake up on my iPad...wait it's a 3rd party app...

I kinda like the idea he's trying to sell but the implementation sucks, and to me it's mostly a software problem.
 
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But not necessarily as well.

Let me give you a scenario. Take an iPhone plus model and a 9.7" iPad Pro with Apple Pencil. Mirror both to a projector screen via Apple TV. Now try annotating on a PDF document inside notability using each device in turn.

There is no contest. The iPad Pro fits the screen better because of its 4:3 aspect ratio and the Apple Pencil offers a better writing experience compared to the iPhone. Both can run the same apps on paper, but the form factor alone makes all the difference in usability. Not to mention the iPad has the longer battery life, which will allow it to last an entire day of work while the iPhone will likely be brought to its knees by noon.

Even the iPad mini has a screen twice the size of the iPhone plus. So reading documents will be easier on a larger tablet.

Numbers alone don't always tell the whole story.



Which ultimately means little if the things this added computing power allows me to do that I can’t get done on iOS has very little to do with actually getting my type of work done.

Which SHOULD make you question why Apple ignores consumers wanting a touchscreen Apple computer....
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Phil Schiller said something along the lines "if your iPhone doesn't cut it you can move to your iPad and if your iPad doesn't cut it you can move to your laptop"...

Well I love putting my phone down at home and pick up my iPad but I hate the software constraints and the fact that the hardware is a generation behind. all day long i push my screen off on the side and when I'm home, it's back on the top again.
I want to check the weather when I wake up on my iPad...wait it's a 3rd party app...

I kinda like the idea he's trying to sell but the implementation sucks, and to me it's mostly a software problem.

Which could easily be fixed if Apple innovated with laptops and made OS X touch screen capable. Microsoft is kicking their ass and manufacturers that are making those flippable laptop are just crapping all over Apple's existence.

Apple's only doing this for profits; purposely stagnating progress to squeeze every penny out of you.
 
Which SHOULD make you question why Apple ignores consumers wanting a touchscreen Apple computer....
I don't question it... the answer is that it currently can't be implemented properly. Anyone who is so jazzed about having a touchscreen notebook can switch to any touchscreen enabled Windows notebook.

I also know that most of those clamoring for a touchscreen macbook do not have extensive experience owning a touchscreen notebook. (note, I said "most" not "all") They are going on what they THINK the experience will be like not based on FIRST-HAND experience.
 
No he's right. He means that iOS is designed for an iphone and shoved onto an ipad...not the apps themselves. The apps are fine but the OS which limits how many icons are on the screen at a time and how many are in a folder page at a time to some ridiculously low number with huge amounts of vacant space is what he was referring to

That hardly matters because most of the time you are using apps, not staring at the home screen.
 
Which SHOULD make you question why Apple ignores consumers wanting a touchscreen Apple computer.....

Apple does sell a touchscreen computer. It's called the iPad. It was completely redesigned for touch from the ground up, runs native apps optimised for touch and direct input, is extremely portable, has long battery life, is way easier to use than any other desktop operating system, and it's hands down the best tablet I have ever experienced.
 
Apple does sell a touchscreen computer. It's called the iPad. It was completely redesigned for touch from the ground up, runs native apps optimised for touch and direct input, is extremely portable, has long battery life, is way easier to use than any other desktop operating system, and it's hands down the best tablet I have ever experienced.

If your job involves more than a couple of simple tasks done on a computer the iPad doesn't cut it and won't for another... say... 10 years...
 
I've had my iPad Pro since it launched. It is quite powerful... And yet very, very frustrating from an app availability perspective. Companies like Microsoft, Adobe and others, even Apple themselves, have done little to utilize the abilities of this device. It's more powerful than many full sized laptops I've owned in past years. Why can't we have full versions of Photoshop, Illustrator and Lightroom? Why are we stuck with severely dumbed-down versions of Excel and Word?

I don't care what awesome new innovations are coming to the iPad next. As long as 99% of all the apps out there are the same that run on my phone, just enhanced for the larger screen and perhaps Pencil support, I'll pass on an upgrade. Tablet sales are slumping across the industry because NO ONE is making software to leverage the hardware. You want desktop class apps on a tablet? Have to buy a Surface Pro... Unfortunately, Windows isn't as ideal as a tablet OS and has its own laundry list of problems within the tablet paradigm.

Oh, and someone needs to find the person at Apple who decided the ESCape key is little more than an afterthought and flog them with a wet rope. Completely removed from the iPad keyboards and now only present on the new MacBook Pro as a Touch Bar feature.
 
Likewise, you could technically operate a PC with a smartphone sized display. So what is the actual reason for a bigger display? Greater functionality. It isn't really as practical to do certain types of tasks on tiny screens for longer periods of time.
And since you can cast the screen to a TV for those situations its still a measured need, just quantitative and not qualitative like it is between an iOS device and a desktop.
 
Apple does sell a touchscreen computer. It's called the iPad. It was completely redesigned for touch from the ground up, runs native apps optimised for touch and direct input, is extremely portable, has long battery life, is way easier to use than any other desktop operating system, and it's hands down the best tablet I have ever experienced.

It's a terrible computer in that case... where's the file system? Where's the connectivity with devices? Where's a legit keyboard? Where are all the applications that do what a desktop app does?

All that headache and a ripoff price tag for a device that's replaced with a phone anyway?

Useless.
 
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For many people he was right. Many people use laptops solely for email, article reading and social media. All things the iPad provides in streamlined apps. Pretty ignorant to think you know everything when all you see is extreme tech users on macrumors.

*Re-reads the article*

*wonders how Apple gets someone so brainwashed*
 
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If your job involves more than a couple of simple tasks done on a computer the iPad doesn't cut it and won't for another... say... 10 years...

Legacy developers from the desktop typically treat iOS as a supplement to their legacy desktop apps. Non-legacy developers are more likely to have more full-featured iOS apps, but since it's not legacy it takes time to develop and add features etc. That's the difference. Plus, the Pro line for iPad has really only been available for about a year now. I think you're going to start seeing more robust offerings with the A9X being the baseline for performance and the A10X coming up. The A9X is a really powerful SoC.
 
It's a terrible computer in that case... where's the file system?
Dropbox + documents. Or keep the files silo'ed by app. I have actually come prefer that arrangement. A file manager now seems so cumbersome and archaic in comparison.

Where's the connectivity with devices?
Lightning to vga adaptor. Apple TV. Native 4g connectivity.

It's a mobile computing device. You are supposed to use it out in the open, without being tethered down to other pieces of hardware.

Where's a legit keyboard?
Bluetooth keyboards are already a thing.

Where are all the applications that do what a desktop app does?
Why, when the whole point is for me to do on an iPad what can't be done on a PC (or can't be done as well?)

All that headache and a ripoff price tag for a device that's replaced with a phone anyway?

Useless.
I don't think my phone replaces my iPad Pro. Far from it.
 
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