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iPhone 7/7 Plus have headphone jacks.

Apple calls them Lightning ports. If you have headphones with an outdated 3.5mm jack, iPhone 7/7 Plus comes with an adapter for you.

That was easy!
iPhone 7/7 Plus have headphone jacks.

Apple calls them Lightning ports. If you have headphones with an outdated 3.5mm jack, iPhone 7/7 Plus comes with an adapter for you.

That was easy!

Ha ha. I love that (official) line :confused:

If only carting round a bag o' dongles for a common port was easy, eh?

Steve the Visionary ....

Tim the Enchanter

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How was it rude? Apple has been terrible recently at shipping products. They "underestimated" iPhone demand and many got their phones a month or more after launch, AirPods are still not out, MacBooks took a month to ship. When people want to pay Apple for their shiny new products and the company simply doesn't deliver per expectations, it makes sense to be upset, frustrated, and show it.

Why would you expect people to be nice and understanding about it? Apple should know better.


While I agree the poster should have used a different tone and asked more politely, I didn't find the phrasing that harsh. but your question is unfortunately revealing of a serious contemporary problem. When we find ourselves asking "why would you expect people to be nice"? things have sunk pretty low. It's an outgrowth of the anonymity problem. No doubt if the poster was speaking directly with Tim Cook, he would have used a much better tone.
 
Surprised Tim responded.

The person who wrote to him was so rude-very unprofessional.

The demanding tone of the customer's e-mail was incredibly rude. However valid his frustration, there's no excuse for that.

This isn't a business email with your boss. This is an email from a frustrated customer that has been let down by a company that they have probably committed $1000s of dollars to over the years. Assuming the email is legit I am glad that Tim apologized. All is forgiven for leading us on for nearly three months, now just deliver the product. Apparently Apple's leadership isn't very demanding, otherwise we'd have products on schedule. This type of feedback is what makes market forces work!
 
This is an amazing behavior that shows what Apple is as a brand.
Despite the numerous wireless bluetooth earbuds being available today, even the ones from Beats, we have people waiting for Apple to release the Airpods.
 
While I agree the poster should have used a different tone and asked more politely, I didn't find the phrasing that harsh. but your question is unfortunately revealing of a serious contemporary problem. When we find ourselves asking "why would you expect people to be nice"? things have sunk pretty low. It's an outgrowth of the anonymity problem. No doubt if the poster was speaking directly with Tim Cook, he would have used a much better tone.

But he was not. It was a note about a problem, and 30 seconds in Tim Cook's time are worth more than I make in five years - and also probably more than the poster makes in five years. You can't and shouldn't insert politeness that wastes their time. At most a Hi Tim at the beginning, and Thanks for reading this at the end, but that's it. No person who's working 15 hours a day going from meeting to meeting and has to deal with a lot of crap as Tim certainly does can waste 30 seconds/email just to read polite words (especially since Tim Cooks probably has to read 1000 emails a day, and his staff probably ten times as much). They need the most basic info, that's it. Problem --> Reason --> End. That's it.
 
This is an amazing behavior that shows what Apple is as a brand.
Despite the numerous wireless bluetooth earbuds being available today, even the ones from Beats, we have people waiting for Apple to release the Airpods.

Are there any available that are truly wireless? That's what I want. No wires at all.
 
Hmm.. customer bought into his "vision" and now feels trolled.. lol, "demands" a date, Tim fails to come up with a pipeline sentence.

Seems legit.
 
I'm surprised he responded to that.
Apple at one time prided itself on "under promise-over deliver" this created a psychological effect in the consumers mind that correlate to high customer satisfaction. Basically allowing the company to set realistic expectations and then push themselves on delivery really making the customer think they are special or lucky. Look at former iPhone releases, or even recent ones when Apple iPhone upgrade program enrollee's felt slightled when they weren't first in line for the iPhone 7, and Apple working with them to get them the new device as soon as possible. This is also something that Apple customers have come to expect based on the precedent established under Steve Jobs. During the October event there was a great deal of time devoted to the AirPods (they even made an Ad-) when they stated late October "they" set the expectation. To my best recollection there was no official press release only anecdotal comments that they were delayed to "get right" with a "coming soon" tag on the product webpage. This customer had every right to express his frustration, and give the stagnation and abandonment of much of their product lines I imagine this is one of the more positive customer emails he has been receiving lately. You can't give a pass on a company with currently vaporware promises (when they're on the shelves I redact the vaporware slur, until then I think it stands).

Others have posted, I imagine sharing the customers feeling and frustration of "should I wait or just go somewhere else?" It is this exact sentiment plaguing much of the negativity through many of the Mac threads. Historically Apple released new/updated macs regularly more or less with a year-year and a half cycle. When Apple entered the mobile phone and later the tablet sphere customers (granted dictated by established marketing and market practices) became accustomed to yearly (or damn near close) iPhone updates and somewhat reliable iPad updates (there have been models that have skipped a year, but generally the iPad product lines have seen at least one of the primary lines see noticible updates).

By Apple becoming what it is today-they have set a precedent with their customer base, and when they take it for granted, there will be push back, in the form of a disgruntled customer email, or just the shear loss of customer blocks as they move to other platforms and devices that meet their current needs. They've set the expectation for themselves, not the customers building up this magical king Midas of a company in their minds.
 
For their asking price, Id rather get myself a really decent pair of good sounding (and admittedly bigger) BT headphones from a reputable company... AND invite my kids and wife out for icecream...

... I HOPE that would also decrease the likelyhood of my wife complaining about me selfishly spending too much money on myself! :oops:
 
Remember the white iPhone 4?

Instead of cherry picking, how about thinking of all the launches under Steve and all the launches under Tim and how many things were announced and released quickly thereafter by each. And, for that matter, how many great things were created and how many were axed under each.

Maybe it's just nostalgia but I feel the company is just losing it every which way (with the exception of profits) and delivering on announcements is another such slip.
 
Ha ha. I love that (official) line :confused:

If only carting round a bag o' dongles for a common port was easy, eh?

Steve the Visionary ....

Tim the Enchanter
This is not like the dongles for the Mac. You would simply plug the adapter to your "legacy" earbud, and leave it like that. I don't have the iPhone 7, but I don't see this being an issue at all. If Apple did not include an adapter, then yeah, maybe that warrants a complaint.
 
Why is it ok because everyone else is more rude "on the internet?" If someone talked to me like that in person, I'd laugh in their face and walk away.

"Give us the release date". The entire tone of the message was rude and childish.

I want these earphones as much as anyone, but emailing the CEO and demanding a release date lets us know that guy is very self entitled. There is a much more professional way to address these concerns directly to the CEO (if you think that's a good way to do it), and he chose not to.

Do you even realize that out of the thousands of emails Cook receives every day he chose this one to reply to for a specific reason? Apparently Cook didn't think it was rude because he responded, knowing it'd be published and seen by millions of people. Maybe he recognized that by answering this specific email he could show himself to have acknowledged the frustrations of customers? Get off your high horse.
 
The demanding tone of the customer's e-mail was incredibly rude. However valid his frustration, there's no excuse for that.
You're wrong. It was a direct email. I personally believe that's why Cook responded. Request. Problem. Remedy. That's all Cook needs. His reply was equally direct. As it should have been. It's business. This wasn't an email between life long friends or a couple in a relationship. It was a vendor/customer correspondence. It was a simple "I have a problem with something you did/didn't do. What are you going to do about it because I can buy someone else's product."

I'm sure they get obsequious love letters to Apple all the time. That wasn't the time for one.
 
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They may start shipping but you can be guaranteed a 4-5 week back order. It's what Apple does with everything these days. I don't know why Apple thinks this is all acceptable. Oh that's right, "look at our revenue!".
Mass tends to increase in velocity when going down a slippery slope.
 
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Well, the original iPhone was announced in January and didn't ship until June.
Due to regulations and there was no way to keep it secret/quiet because of all the public disclosures. I believe Steve Jobs addressed this when it was announced.
 
Surprised he didn't just say "I've been using them since before iPhone 7 launch, to my recollection not once have they fallen out of my ears, they're the BEST earbuds we've EVER created -- thanks for asking" and leave it at that,

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Great picture - he looks like someone's Granny who's forgotten to put the false teeth in.......quite appropriate given his (lack) of leadership ability.
 
Your wrong. It was a direct email. I personally believe that's why Cook responded. Request. Problem. Remedy. That's all Cook needs. His reply was equally direct. As it should have been. It's business. This wasn't an email between life long friends or a couple in a relationship. It was a vendor/customer correspondence. It was a simple "I have a problem with something you did/didn't do. What are you going to do about it because I can buy someone else's product."

I'm sure they get obsequious love letters to Apple all the time. That wasn't the time for one.

Exactly. That's how people communicate in a business relationship. Even with the POTUS. See below. No greetings, no hi, no bye, nothing. Just the facts and a minimum of opinion. (source: https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/virtuallibrary/releases/sep16/diem.pdf)


MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT
FROM: Henry A. Kissinger
SUBJECT: Conversation with South Vietnamese Ambassador Diem, .January 24, 1969

I saw the Vietnamese Ambassador for a few minutes this evening and made the following points to him:
-- The Nixon Administration believes it essential that the Government of South Vietnam (GVN) and the U. S. Government work closely together ln the months to come.
-- We have the impression that some of the difficulty between us over the past few months resulted from unnecessary arguments over language.
-- We intend to be tough with the North Vietnamese on the issues, but will try to get maneuvering room by using soft language.
-- South Vietnamese attitudes over recent months, we believe, were partly a result of distrust of the U.S. Perhaps the GVN was reluctant to concede anything because of uncertainties over what we might next ask.
-- This Administration will deal honestly and frankly with the GVN. We will listen carefully and sympathetically to the GVN, although we may not always be able to do what is asked of us. Bui

Diem admitted that relations had deteriorated over the past months, and said that he personally believed unnecessary things had been said by both sides.
I told the Ambassador that he should feel free to call on me any time he wished. I emphasized that I would like him to tell me what the real Vietnamese concerns were, rather than to go over arguments largely put out for public consumption.
 
I find it funny that people claiming that it's necessary to talk to people "way above your pay grade" in this direct manner, they neglect to mention that half of Cook's response is superfluous text.

Thanks for your note. Sorry for the delay---we are finalizing them and I anticipate we will begin to ship over the next few weeks

Most of that is completely unnecessary. So much for being succinct, right?

There is a polite way to quickly and directly address these concerns, and he didn't use it.
 
Ethered on the first comment. Apple's become such a joke these days.
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LOL, outdated. :rolleyes:


Mike, with all of the negativity on Macrumors your holiday humor that "Apple has become such a joke" is much appreciated. "Such a joke" that despite the trollers' predictions that the "anti-consumer" "boring"iPhone 7 would be a sales disaster for Apple and flop, the iPhone 7 is being sold as fast as Apple can produce them and is now predicted to be bought by close to a quarter of a billion consumers world wide in its first twelve months. The other "joke" of a product, the Macbook Pros are also being sold as fast as Apple can make them and have already set sales records.

The one thing that is not funny, however, is that Apple is struggling to find places to store all of those profits as Marc Gurman has a source that is reporting the banks are complaining that their vaults are soon going to be out of room to store all of the cash that Apple keeps making.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from Apple to you and all

 
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