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After reading his biography, I was left with two impressions. One the genius that he was in terms of the asthetics and attention to detail that turned into the amazing products we have today. The second impression is that this obsession made him not a great man when it came to relationships, including his family and co-workers. Therefore I wonder about Tim's comment that he was a great friend. Obviously having never met the man I cannot really comment, but anyone reading his bio would surely at least raise an eyebrow at the "great friend comment."

Well, in the Isaacson bio of Steve, there are quotes from some people who said what a great friend Steve was, how he was there for them at bad times etc.

I can't recall exactly who said it, but obviously there's a lot we don't know.
 
It would've been better to send nothing at all? I hope your kidding. The entire technology industry owe their lives to Steve Jobs. Without him, I'd be typing this on a crappy Blackberry, and not the true smartphone Steve invisioned. It's extremely rare that someone can actually say "I changed the world." Steve could say that in has grave for the next 100,000 years and it will still be a true statement.

Just to be an ass, without Steve Jobs:
- you wouldn't be writing this in the first place
- We would have other tech and we wouldn't know any better
- Every SJ-worshipper would probably be worshipping somebody else.

Also, in 100,000 years, I doubt anyone will know who Steve Jobs was, other than an insomniac on that era's version of wikipedia... We all know who Henry Ford was, but I fear the younger generations might not... And that was "only" 100-ish years ago...

Puts on flame retardant suit...
 
After reading his biography, I was left with two impressions. One the genius that he was in terms of the asthetics and attention to detail that turned into the amazing products we have today. The second impression is that this obsession made him not a great man when it came to relationships, including his family and co-workers. Therefore I wonder about Tim's comment that he was a great friend. Obviously having never met the man I cannot really comment, but anyone reading his bio would surely at least raise an eyebrow at the "great friend comment."

I work in the technology industry myself. I have been part of teams that have created some pretty amazing stuff over the years.

Most of the time there are multiple people contributing the creative content. Many times there are competing solutions to a given problem. And each design gets critiqued and picked apart by the others. Everyone has to defend their design and shoot holes in the other designs. We all know our way is the "best" way to solve the problem, and everyone else's won't work.

There is an interesting dynamic in successful organizations full of creative people, like Apple: their passion for the product tends to be compartmentalized quite easily.

We would have, shall we say, "animated discussions" about the product. People outside the process looking in, including those in the business side of the house, would think a mass firing/quitting/mutiny was at hand, if not something worse. Then, we would all head out together for lunch or a beer after work, catch up on family stories and have a great time.

Everyone really had the same goal: the best product we could collectively create. And we all fought to make that happen.
 
The world would not be the same, possibly similar but not the same without Steve and the people who he worked closely with.

Such a shame he did not go and do treatment immediately and instead seeke other 'alternatives'.
 
personally I know everyone has their own grieving timelines, etc.

But as a company I'd hope Apple starts looking forward. 1st anniversary of the death of Steve, sure, reflect. But I hope the 2nd is more muted... Love Steve and everything he brought, but Apple needs to focus on the future not the past.


Thank you. Time to move on. A ghost isn't gonna save Apple from falling behind its competitors.
 
After reading his biography, I was left with two impressions. One the genius that he was in terms of the asthetics and attention to detail that turned into the amazing products we have today. The second impression is that this obsession made him not a great man when it came to relationships, including his family and co-workers. Therefore I wonder about Tim's comment that he was a great friend. Obviously having never met the man I cannot really comment, but anyone reading his bio would surely at least raise an eyebrow at the "great friend comment."

Personally the "I know that Steve..." bothers me more.
 
personally I know everyone has their own grieving timelines, etc.

But as a company I'd hope Apple starts looking forward. 1st anniversary of the death of Steve, sure, reflect. But I hope the 2nd is more muted... Love Steve and everything he brought, but Apple needs to focus on the future not the past.

If they ignored the anniversary of Steve's death people would complain as well. You just can't win with message board people :rolleyes:
 
No matter how much money Apple makes, it will never be the same without Steve. I really miss his keynote speeches, he was such a brilliant presenter and full of passion. There was a warmth coming from the company while he was there, now it is just cold hard business.

Yeah, the warmth from heated entitled consumers that got mad at Steve even when he offered so much more to the tech world. Sadly many of those people reside here on MR. But I agree with you.
 
It would've been better to send nothing at all? I hope your kidding. The entire technology industry owe their lives to Steve Jobs. Without him, I'd be typing this on a crappy Blackberry, and not the true smartphone Steve invisioned. It's extremely rare that someone can actually say "I changed the world." Steve could say that in has grave for the next 100,000 years and it will still be a true statement.

stop being so emotional. 'owe their lives to steve jobs?'
farout..some people here need to grow backbones.
 
I don't agree with this e-mail at all. It's the latest in a disturbing trend of celebrating the death of person(s) who did something great in this world, as if there's no one left to step up and replace them. (The accuracy of that can be debated.)

Remember the man by celebrating his birthday or his life, not his demise. :eek:
 
what is this some cult??

Why, because an "internal" email gets leaked out to the media? Did they post a big spread on the WSJ? Making a TV special commemorating the anniversary? I don't get the whole "cult" label. People are loyal to what they like, whether it's a clothing brand, a car manufacturer (90% of the cars I've owned have been Honda's), a brand of soda... People walk around with Atari on their shirts, or a favorite super hero emblem, they tattoo a team logo on themselves, cry when their team loses... many types of loyalty exists. Just cause people are loyal doesn't make it a cult.
 
After reading his biography, I was left with two impressions. One the genius that he was in terms of the asthetics and attention to detail that turned into the amazing products we have today. The second impression is that this obsession made him not a great man when it came to relationships, including his family and co-workers. Therefore I wonder about Tim's comment that he was a great friend. Obviously having never met the man I cannot really comment, but anyone reading his bio would surely at least raise an eyebrow at the "great friend comment."
Even if, I adored him for his spirit.
 
Tim Cook is doing a good job given the massive challenges Apple faces. We are all unique, Jobs chose to be a high profile person making sure he got recognized.
 
Thank you Steve Jobs, for if you hadn't come back to Apple we'd all be using Windows.
 
…as a company I'd hope Apple starts looking forward. 1st anniversary of the death of Steve, sure, reflect. But I hope the 2nd is more muted... Love Steve and everything he brought, but Apple needs to focus on the future not the past.
You don't need to pretend the past never happened in order to look forward. People are capable of doing more than one thing at a time.
 
My ability to enjoy keynotes died with Steve. Perhaps that has something to do with the fact that he accomplished what he set out to do, or perhaps I'm not as interested in the current product line, or even boring (Tim) presenters. I just get the highlights and that's it.

Steve was a visionary, a man who brought the future back to our time. I do not see anyone anywhere (even Apple itself) that shows this potential. Even the iterative products Apple has put out after Steve just don't do it for me (iOS 7, ugh). I liked what Steve (and those under his supervision) did. I'm not liking the "post-Steve" stuff.

So this is especially sad for me, for this reminds me of the "surprise and delight" that Apple brought me over the years under Steve, as well as the fact that it is likely I will not get them from Apple again (given what's happened after his passing).

Just another stage of life, of "growing up", where you move on to other things.

PD: I could care less what Steve Jobs was like as a person. I never met him, and frankly, never cared to. But I think I will miss his skills, taste, and judgment as it applies to the products I do, or would interact with.
 
I'm going to assume Steve wasn't a jerk all the time. And the people closest to him got to see a side of him that the public never did.

I don't think anyone gets anywhere in life by being a jerk all the time, urban legends notwithstanding. Steve Jobs obviously had no problem invoking his inner a**hole at crucial moments, but there's no shortage of stories out there about what a nice guy he could be also. The problem is that it's human nature to focus on the negative. A story about Steve losing his temper gets far more play than him being pleasant.
 
Yeah, that is pretty cultish and a little bit weird.

When they build the circular campus thing, they can get everyone in the middle on the anniversary, bowing down and praying towards the direction of Steve's birthplace.

A little belief goes a long way. It wouldn't be any more or less legitimate than the others.
 
stop being so emotional. 'owe their lives to steve jobs?'
farout..some people here need to grow backbones.

He said tech industry not people, i'm sure he meant smartphones tablets, that sort of thing. And besides you never know maybe apple did something for his life through one of there products don't judge him
 
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