Tim Cook Shares Details About New 'Made in USA' Mac Model

[69650]

Labour costs are higher in the US than China so it has to be the Mac Pro rather than the Mac Mini simply because it a more expensive product, it's often made to order given the number of variations you can add and it's low volume.

I had thought they might merge the Mac Mini and Mac Pro lines into one design with a modular/customisable spec from entry level all the way up to pro. That would make more sense to me. Start small and then as your need or your business grows add additional modules/components for power, performance, graphics, storage, etc.

 

[AppliedMicro]

Better control over secrecy.

Why would better control over secrecy be needed for a (Mac Pro) product that gets speed-bumped every over other year and a complete redesign (only) once a decade?

 

[Moonjumper]

Almost certainly the Mac Pro. It is the most configurable model. Building to order and then shipping takes time. It makes sense to build near the biggest market. Other models are more often to standard specs, so they can be shipped before they are ordered.

 

[jimbobb24]

When companies start doing things like this it is a sure sign they have lost their way and focus. This is economic illiteracy and jingoism writ large by a corporation. While economist differs on their opinion on the mysteries of macro economics most agree about the simple concepts surrounding trade. Certifying something US only just appeals to the nativist instincts of the ill informed. For the Germans are they going to introduce a built in Germany model? For the Japanese? Or are we the only nation with economic bigotry and politicians who feel the need to pressure/persuade companies to make "made in the USA"

 

[reel2reel]

I hope it's the Mac Pro.

I can't believe it was way back in 2010 when I purchased my personal Mac Pro (as opposed to a Mac Pro at work).

Yet it seems like yesterday.

I find (personally, based on crap that I do day-to-day) the biggest bottlenecks of the current Mac Pro are:

- not enough slots

- Apple has all ignored anything other than Consumer interests

- not enough support for GPU

That's all I got.

 

[ValSalva]

I hope it's the Mac Pro simply because that would mean there would be a new Mac Pro. I just hope the workmanship and build quality is up to par.

 

[dkouts]

There's no 'details' in that at all.

 

[Verbatim Cookie]

And since Apple has >50% sales outside the USA . . .

I thought most Macs (all models combined) are sold in the U.S.

 

[Dulcimer]

"How are you not Steve Jobs?"

Poor Tim, he still has to hear stuff like this.

Yes, and people on here spew out their dislike of Cook over Jobs on a constant basis. It's odd.

 

[Rogifan]

There would be many good things about it. Two that come to mind immediately are that our unemployment levels are too high and our current accounts balance . Making more products in the US would help in both regards.

If you'd like, I could probably come up with a half-dozen more reasons why it is a good thing.

Apple sells products worldwide. How is it good for someone who doesn't live in the USA since we know manufacturing in the USA will increase the price of products?

 

[Anon Tobin]

Labour costs are higher in the US than China so it has to be the Mac Pro rather than the Mac Mini simply because it a more expensive product, it's often made to order given the number of variations you can add and it's low volume.

I had thought they might merge the Mac Mini and Mac Pro lines into one design with a modular/customisable spec from entry level all the way up to pro. That would make more sense to me. Start small and then as your need or your business grows add additional modules/components for power, performance, graphics, storage, etc.

That would be a disaster for both users. The Mac mini crowd aren't going to be happy paying a premium for server grade hardware.

 

[ronwasserman]

My bet is at least 95% of US consumers would not do this.

Which is why they'll do that Mac Pro in the U.S. and not their other products. They'll be catering to a smaller specialized group of professionals who can/could afford to cough up a few extra dollars.

 

[69650]

That would be a disaster for both users. The Mac mini crowd aren't going to be happy paying a premium for server grade hardware.

I'm not suggesting that. It would modular and scalable. They could easily have one design that works for both the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro. One design with different internals. I don't see the problem.

 

[DisMyMac]

Apple sells products worldwide. How is it good for someone who doesn't live in the USA since we know manufacturing in the USA will increase the price of products?

Look how much Hyundai has in the USA: https://www.hyundaiusa.com/about-hyundai/our-company/

Like Apple, they use bourgeois investments to exploit poor farmers elsewhere. Both China and USA needs revolution!

 

[iGrip]

Apple sells products worldwide. How is it good for someone who doesn't live in the USA since we know manufacturing in the USA will increase the price of products?

You seem to be concerned with a completely different topic than the one I was discussing.

 

[iChrist]

Def the Mac Pro.

We're all allowed to dream.

Back to reality, it will be iMac.

 

[Anon Tobin]

I'm not suggesting that. It would modular and scalable. They could easily have one design that works for both the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro. One design with different internals. I don't see the problem.

But one design wouldn't work for both users. There is no logical reason to abandon the Mac Pro's current form factor. You can already expand the Mac Pro with ease.

 

[snebes]

You guys forget to quickly....

Its the Mac mini.
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/26/apple-to-move-mac-mini-production-to-u-s/

That isn't to say other Macs won't be built here.

iMac...
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/02/some-new-imacs-are-assembled-in-the-usa/

The new Mac Pro has the best chance of being built here as well. The laptops, not so much.

 

[Spock]

You guys forget to quickly....

Its the Mac mini.
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/26/apple-to-move-mac-mini-production-to-u-s/

That isn't to say other Macs won't be built here.

iMac...
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/02/some-new-imacs-are-assembled-in-the-usa/

The new Mac Pro has the best chance of being built here as well. The laptops, not so much.

The university I work at just got an order of 20 brand new iMacs and they all say assembled in USA.

 

[sseaton1971]

Looks like that Jobs (the Steve Jobs) is never coming back either.

Wow, that was a really classy comment. Thanks.

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Face it folks, the mac pro is DEAD! But I wouldn't rule out a mini pro. With adobe taking CS7 to online only, apple could make a powerful mini for whats left of there pro apps and still sell the apps. If a mini pro does happen, the only chance it would work is put a single 8 or 10 core xeon, 64 GB max ram, room for 2 SSD's and plenty of ports (firewire, USB3 and thunderbolt). It would have to be at least 3 times the height of the current mini. If nothing is released by December for the pro market, you know the mac pro is DEAD!

What are you talking about? It has been confirmed by Cook and at least one Apple representative that there is either a Mac Pro update or a replacement coming in 2013. And Adobe is not taking CS7 online only. What Adobe is doing is changing the licensing model for their new Creative Cloud Suite (CC not CS7). I think this is a stupid move, but it is not an "online only" suite of apps. The apps are still going to be installed locally like before.

 

[imageWIS]

"It's not about the price"

Ok, Tim, then bring ALL the Apple production back to the USA as it was during the first few years of the company!

 

[carlgo]

The university I work at just got an order of 20 brand new iMacs and they all say assembled in USA.

They just screwed on the stand or something at the distribution center so they could slap on that sticker.

Sure a lot of people here who do not like the idea of US made products. They come out of the woodwork every time the subject comes up. They are either from the PPC or perhaps they fear this will help the current Administration or foster unions or who knows.

 

[TallManNY]

Apple sells products worldwide. How is it good for someone who doesn't live in the USA since we know manufacturing in the USA will increase the price of products?

Irrelevant. Prices for goods are much more based on what consumer is willing to spend than cost of production. When you buy a cola, do you care if it cost 5 cents to make or ten cents? You don't care. Is a Channel Handbag priced based on the current cost of leather? Nope. IPhones are probably cheaper to make than most high end Android phones due to the volume pricing Apple gets from manufacturers. But consumers pay more due to demand.

Mac Pro will be ver expensive due to long suffering and waiting demand. But not due to minor difference in labor costs.

 

[69650]

But one design wouldn't work for both users. There is no logical reason to abandon the Mac Pro's current form factor. You can already expand the Mac Pro with ease.

You mean apart from it's enormous size and weight which just looks incredibly out dated now?

Some Mac users really are resistant to change these days. I can remember the days when we all looked forward to a new form factor. Now all I hear is "no please don't change things I'm too stuck in my ways to contemplate that".

 

[hleewell]

There would be many good things about it. Two that come to mind immediately are that our unemployment levels are too high and our current accounts balance . Making more products in the US would help in both regards.

If you'd like, I could probably come up with a half-dozen more reasons why it is a good thing.

It is nice that Mac is employing more Americans than before but America needs more than Apple to solve its unemployment issues, lol, seriously, people. In many Chinese companies, a college graduate gets $18,00 a year. A year! How much is an entry level graduate in US is getting? $35,000-$40,000. Margin people, margin. Apple can afford to go local because of its ability to charge above standard pricing. Walmart, HP, Dell, Nike cannot do that. Calvin Klein could do it but they choose to do it overseas anyway.