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Tim Cook Shares Details About New 'Made in USA' Mac Model

Coleman2010 said:
Def the Mac Pro.
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I really want to believe it...If there is no significant upgrade this time around, then the Pro will effectively be dead. I SO wanted one last upgrade, but you get caught in the best price for your old Mac V waiting it out for an upgrade we don't know about...even now.

If the Pro is properly updated, then my brand new maxed out Imac will be sold, and I will buy the Pro I wanted.

Fingers crossed that you are right!:)
 
I'm an American born and raised, but let's hope the American culture of manufacturing doesn't pollute Apple products (crap).

I don't care who builds what I'm spending money on, as long as they build it the best for me, they're looking out best, for me.
 
I like these first steps from Apple to bring back some manufacturing/assembly to the USA. But a $100 million investment into the Home Country is pocket change for them.

Boost up the commitment Apple. Next year, double or triple the manufacturing investment (along with hiring of American citizens non-retail employees).
 
Solomani said:
I like these first steps from Apple to bring back some manufacturing/assembly to the USA. But a $100 million investment into the Home Country is pocket change for them.

Boost up the commitment Apple. Next year, double or triple the manufacturing investment (along with hiring of American citizens non-retail employees).
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If the US government would let them invest foreign earned profits without first taxing them 50%, they would be investing billions and not hundreds of millions.

Alas, the greed of government ruins it for the people again.
 
Apple is paying just 2% taxes outside of USA and I really think that taxes must be paid in the country where the products is sold and the benefit should stay in that country to develope a better market, better warrany services, education investments, etc. I understand that many of you are very patriotic, and thats fine, you are americans, but Apple is international corporation and I dont think its right to take back all benefits to the US.

I am form Spain and ofcourse prefer made in the US, instead of made in China, but I dont mind to be made in Germany or made in UK too.
 
thewitt said:
If the US government would let them invest foreign earned profits without first taxing them 50%, they would be investing billions and not hundreds of millions.

Alas, the greed of government ruins it for the people again.
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Yes, and so we both agree that Apple (and other corporations) are at the mercy of a taxation-happy administration. And that will only change once a more "business-friendly" administration returns to the White House. Not sure when that will happen. But I will stop here until this gets uglier and becomes a heated US political discussion.
 
If this is typical or the "innovative features" from New Apple (post Jobs) that has done nothing in the past three years other than cockup the 30pin connector and resize old products aka the iPad...then Im not holding up much hope.
I have a 29" iMac and I too want a Pro. But that would mean them having to think something up from scratch and that's not on their agenda of late.

Curse you New Apple and your laurel wreath resting rap :eek:
 
Solomani said:
Yes, and so we both agree that Apple (and other corporations) are at the mercy of a taxation-happy administration. And that will only change once a more "business-friendly" administration returns to the White House. Not sure when that will happen. But I will stop here until this gets uglier and becomes a heated US political discussion.
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Hopefully never, I actually prefer the current administration to be less business friendly
 
NEXT Year

When was this video shot?! If you listen, at 1.18/1.19 he clearly says "A Mac in the United States NEXT year". That's worrying to me. Mac Pro can't wait till 2014.
 
Wat a cretinous post

thewitt said:
If the US government would let them invest foreign earned profits without first taxing them 50%, they would be investing billions and not hundreds of millions.

Alas, the greed of government ruins it for the people again.
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This is probably the worst post I've ever read on Mac Rumors, and thats really saying something - all your major corporations in the USA avoid any form of tax like the plague - Apple is no exception - given most of the IT technology utilised in computing was actually discovered/invented by US institutions funded by the U.S. Government and U.S. educated engineers, perhaps you could explain how the Apple way, this being 'criminality' at best, is superior.

Lets be blunt, Apple has never invented anything, they Patent a great deal, but heck, I'd not realised they had invented LCD's. LED's, Transistors, the mouse or actually a GUI - bloody Job's copied it - they assemble and design existing technologies - or is it your contention they also developed the LCD display on their laptops and iToy's, or actually invented the HDD or SSD.

They are a software company who happen to manufacture hardware.
 
azentropy said:
The current Mac Pro has enormous margins, so taking a hit to margins by building them in the US would certainly be the safest bet.
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This, plus they don't sell in the highest volume of units compared to other machines, so it should be one that Apple could easily manufacture in the US while keeping the operation small to begin with.

I don't think anyone will mind the extra overhead, even if the customer sees some of it, if the focus of the US operation is on quality over cost. Not that I've been unhappy with a PowerMac or Mac Pro, but for a workstation the lifetime of the machine should be a top priority.

Actually, given the recent rumour about Applecare subscriptions, I'm personally hoping that new Mac Pros will be covered for five years or more; while the Mac Pro should be high end, not everyone needs to be on the cutting edge all the time, buying the best they can then managing with minor upgrades (RAM, new graphics card, more disk space etc.) so long-life is something that should be a selling point with guarantees to back it up.
 
kemal said:
Here is something Steve wouldn't do:

The Current Mac Pro is a workstation. Apple should split the line and offer an expandable desktop class computer under $2k and continue to offer the workstation over $2k.
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Problem is, there is no money in regular 'desktop' computers other than as a small part of big corporate equipment & service contracts (an area in which Apple has never been successful, even when they did have 'regular desktops'). Apple goes where the money is - all-in-ones, high-end laptops, small-form-factor & workstations have higher mark-ups.

For Apple buyers, such a system would fall into one or both of two categories:

(a) Hugely expensive c.f. a mini-tower that Dell sells at cost + however much they can stiff you for upgrades and extended warranties.
or
(b) Sufficiently affordable that it cannibalised sales of the more profitable lines.

jimbobb24 said:
When companies start doing things like this it is a sure sign they have lost their way and focus. This is economic illiteracy and jingoism writ large by a corporation.
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Or, this is a decision that does actually make economic sense for non-political reasons, being milked for some good PR as a bonus.

Apple knows the details of this - we don't, but as others have pointed out, c.f. the laptops and SFF systems, a Mac Pro would be far easier to build from mostly generic parts, will be more expensive to ship by sea or air, may offer a plethora of build-to-order options and will be made in much smaller numbers (which also means that 'build-to-order' may involve more actual building-to-order as opposed to making batches of the popular permutations).
 
29" iMac ?

BruceEBonus said:
If this is typical or the "innovative features" from New Apple (post Jobs) that has done nothing in the past three years other than cockup the 30pin connector and resize old products aka the iPad...then Im not holding up much hope.
I have a 29" iMac and I too want a Pro. But that would mean them having to think something up from scratch and that's not on their agenda of late.

Curse you New Apple and your laurel wreath resting rap :eek:
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That 29" iMac sounds pretty innovative to me.
 
sulpfiction said:
Man I miss SJ! Just not the same.
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You, and many, should just let that go. He's gone, he's not coming back, and what Tim Cook or others do with the company is the future of Apple. /shrug You should ask yourself though whether there would even be talks about a US manufactured machine under Jobs' direction. Sometimes change it good.

That being said, the MP being manufactured in the US seems logical to me. Another poster mentioned that the bodies of other machines being less "square" would suggest they aren't suitable for US manufacturing. I don't get that statement at all. If a company wishes, anything can be manufactured in the US. Companies don't because it will either eat into profit or cause the price tag to go up.

The MP is seriously overpriced as is, there is room there to make money still. Of course, the MP pricing will likely increase a bit so that Apple's profits aren't affected as drastically. Even still, give jobs back to Americans (if you're an American company) and stop handing them out to people overseas while people here suffer.
 
Steve.P.JobsFan said:
I know a computer is just a computer, but I may cough up the extra $1000 to go over-budget and buy a Mac Pro if it means a large chunk [if not all] of my money goes into the U.S. economy.
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I know Chevy/Ford bet their companies on people buying American to be blindly patriotic. What I'm getting at is, and of course I know Apple isn't betting the company on anything, if the quality remains the same OR is higher, then I'd be all for paying more with the side benefit of it being made in America. Just to curtail the "you're anti-America!" comments, I'm in the Air Force Reserve....

I will NOT pay more for something JUST because it's American made. If it's crap, it's crap and I'll buy elsewhere, so here's hoping this project of his works out for all of us in a positive way and isn't just a gimmick.

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haravikk said:
if the focus of the US operation is on quality over cost.
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This is what I'm concerned about. Like I mentioned before, with the automotive industry building here means less quality at higher prices versus overseas. Yes yes, I know computers aren't cars, but American manufacturing has been terrible in a lot of industries for decades.

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D-a-a-n said:
Lol, americans.. :rolleyes:.

Just kidding :)
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I don't think you are kidding, but I agree. And I am most definitely American. Blindly purchasing something just because it has a stamp that says "Made in USA" is poor judgement. If the quality is there, hey cool! But...we'll see.

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StarPower said:
I'm an American born and raised, but let's hope the American culture of manufacturing doesn't pollute Apple products (crap).

I don't care who builds what I'm spending money on, as long as they build it the best for me, they're looking out best, for me.
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I honestly didn't expect anyone to have similar views as I do on this topic. Heck, I grew up playing little league baseball, joined the military, apple pie and all that, but American manufacturing is just...we have a long way to go to bring quality back up. The way I see it, being resentful of American manufacturing and being critical of it is very patriotic because it shows concern and a desire for improvement, others...well, they don't see it that way because they are totally following the flag blind. Yeah, I'm waiting for the comments saying, "well you're in the military, don't YOU blindly follow?" The answer is NO. Not all orders are lawful, you don't just blindly follow an order if it goes against other rules. Come on folks.
 
Tim Said it was an existing Mac product line. He emphasised the word 'existing'. Which would not point to a new Mac Pro. Or If you're in Europe (as I am), any kind of Mac Pro (they haven't existed here for a couple of months now).
 
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