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Less costly shipping, for one. Is it better to ship all the components to China (from all around the world), then ship most of those products back to the US, or just ship all the components to the US and the products are already here?

I expect also, Apple feels a certain degree of apprehension about building certain components or assembling them in certain parts of the world. There's been a lot of leaks out of China, some of their suppliers have been copying their products (ahem, Samsung), and Apple wants to put a lid on all of that.

It costs about 30 cents a pop for laptops to ship from China to US (by boat). I don't think cost of shipping is a reason for doing this. :cool:

Also, to your second point, traditionally there have been (and there will be going forward) instances of more leaks in US than there are currently from China. Culture-wise I am not convinced we'd be ok with firing someone for yelling out in a bar "iphone5s is going to come in 6 colors" in a bar.

That said, I feel comfy with change, cuz I like things "made in USA". :)
 
You mean apart from it's enormous size and weight which just looks incredibly out dated now?

Some Mac users really are resistant to change these days. I can remember the days when we all looked forward to a new form factor. Now all I hear is "no please don't change things I'm too stuck in my ways to contemplate that". :(

Enormous and outdated? You realize this is a workstation, right?
 
Here is something Steve wouldn't do:

The Current Mac Pro is a workstation. Apple should split the line and offer an expandable desktop class computer under $2k and continue to offer the workstation over $2k.

Why? Most people don't want/care about an expandable desktop PC. They want one that doesn't use a bunch of extra space that is only filled in the last 1/4 of its life. If you want expandable, get the Pro. Nuf said.
 
Well, if this is some newfangled desktop or laptop computer made with some new ARM in-house designed processor or something, and they need to do it in the US to maintain trade secrets, then fine.

If it's just for feel good purposes, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
 
You mean apart from it's enormous size and weight which just looks incredibly out dated now?

Some Mac users really are resistant to change these days. I can remember the days when we all looked forward to a new form factor. Now all I hear is "no please don't change things I'm too stuck in my ways to contemplate that". :(

You need enclosures of this size to effectively cool high end parts with acceptable noise levels. There is no way around it at this time that makes sense. There is no reason to offer anything that can't have high end parts as they already have iMacs and Minis. The Mac Pro's form factor actually limits it to what you can find on Intel's workstation platform. You would struggle to get two CPUs, 16 DIMM slots and 6 x16 PCI slots in the current enclosure and cool it quietly with air. Enthusiasts and professionals building their own systems or using high end workstations have larger enclosures than the Mac Pro.
 
Sounds like the Mac Pro.

My guesses:
Processor from Arizona
RAM from Texas and Virginia
SSD from Illinois
Chassis from Florida

Final assembly in Kentucky.
 
I have a strong sense it will be the Mac Pro. The argument with shipping costs makes sense as it is the largest Mac Apple produces while their ARM based devices and portables can be shipped at greater numbers for less. Some have stated the Mini models, yet Mac Mini's tend to sell more than the Mac Pro as well as sharing similar parts between the portable and iMac lines. Manufacturing smaller models that utilize similar/exact components overseas while establishing factories for Mac Pro would make more business sense, and may very well be a test on how well US production fares for future development.

As the Mac Pro doesn't generally share the same components as other Mac's, and as the largest Mac desktop sold and in the smallest numbers, it would make sense to produce it in the US.
 
Sounds like the Mac Pro.

My guesses:
Processor from Arizona
RAM from Texas and Virginia
SSD from Illinois
Chassis from Florida

Final assembly in Kentucky.

Arizona for the CPU? Intel has factories in New York though... doesn't Samsung have one in Arizona though, or is that Texas?
 
Arizona for the CPU? Intel has factories in New York though... doesn't Samsung have one in Arizona though, or is that Texas?

Intel's latest & greatest, top of the line 14nm fab is coming up just south-east of Phoenix, Arizona..
 
Sounds like the Mac Pro.

My guesses:
Processor from Arizona
RAM from Texas and Virginia
SSD from Illinois
Chassis from Florida

Final assembly in Kentucky.

What memory fab is in Illinois? Utah, Texas, yes. Illinois? Can't think of a one.
 
I wish he would just say it's a new Mac Pro ! and give an idea as to which month this year it will be released.

So far, there is still no guarantee he is referring to a new Mac Pro, and if it will be released by i.e. Sept, 2013 ?

The wait continues, and so does the mystery of the new Mac Pro.
 
Hardware, yes. But what's outdated about the form?

Oops, I misread the first guy. No, I don't think the form is outdated, just stagnant and not that far ahead of everyone else. Apple could do a little thinking to move it forward like making it more modular with Thunderbolt or something.

I have a 2008 Mac Pro, and I like the functional and elegant design. I still think Apple could improve a lot by bringing in some significant changes, but they do have a great machine already. It's just so overpriced that I'd only buy a used model from 4 years ago like I did.
 
For some reason I recall from our last conversation about this that most of the work would be done by robots and it was...200 jobs?
 
I know a computer is just a computer, but I may cough up the extra $1000 to go over-budget and buy a Mac Pro if it means a large chunk [if not all] of my money goes into the U.S. economy.

Im not even American, but I too would do this. I wish more people would send the powerful message to manufactures that its OK to bring manufacturing back to its core locations, and that we will pay a little more to support that.
 
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