Its something that not a lot of long time Apple fans can get out of their heads. What would it be like today with Steve at the helm. What kind of products would we have. What would the phones and macs look like....
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Tim Cook Shares Tribute to Steve Jobs on Sixth Anniversary of His Death
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Steve wanted Apple to stay young, foolish, entrepreneurial, innovative and they made it bloat, deliberately mainstream, financially optimized, incumbent.
That departs from every value Jobs stood for.
Steve was betrayed (and so are we, who chose for those values)
O, and he would never do business with Samsung and never, never, never, become dependent on them for a major part of a flagship/anniversary/nextgen product.
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Stop shilling for Cook, he'll never be a Steve Jobs period, Tim is just riding his coattails. And I'm a windows guy stating this!
Jobs could often infuriate me as a user (but often also admirer) of Apple's products, but I think he got more things right than wrong, and he certainly 'made a dent in the universe' - and I think that was clear before he passed, but the dent he made is perhaps even more evident now than it was then.
And that isn't meant as a dig at Cook and others at Apple, just to say that he was a one-off, no-one was going to replace him or inspire quite as much as he did in the way he did with the things he did.
I feel like a lot of us Apple users/customers/followers still haven't quite fully grasped that yet. And again, that isn't meant as a dig at anyone who expresses criticisms of anything Apple has done since Jobs' sad passing... (I'd be a hypocrite if it was!) it just 'is what it is'.
But sometimes I feel like the unspoken feeling is that the largest offence that Tim has committed in the eyes of his critics is simply not being Steve... which is not really something anyone can do anything about.
And that isn't meant as a dig at Cook and others at Apple, just to say that he was a one-off, no-one was going to replace him or inspire quite as much as he did in the way he did with the things he did.
I feel like a lot of us Apple users/customers/followers still haven't quite fully grasped that yet. And again, that isn't meant as a dig at anyone who expresses criticisms of anything Apple has done since Jobs' sad passing... (I'd be a hypocrite if it was!) it just 'is what it is'.
But sometimes I feel like the unspoken feeling is that the largest offence that Tim has committed in the eyes of his critics is simply not being Steve... which is not really something anyone can do anything about.
Because SJ was a Messiah for frothy Apple loyalists (i.e. all the ones on this thread that are so fanatic that in order to adulate Steve, they must instinctively throw hateful attacks on Cook). And since SJ is Messiah, please realize that a Messiah's death anniversary is more important than his birthday. (See for comparison, that Biblical guy who died on a Cross, his death anniversary is slightly more sacred than his birth anniversary).
I disagree about the HomePod. I think of myself as a typical HomePod buyer. I have a unique house in that I don't need a full-home stereo system, and just an MP3 player speaker is good enough for me. However, my Bose kinda sucks in terms of filling space. I would really like the HomePod just for that fact. My Bose sounds AMAZING so long as you don't stand in a certain position in the room, then it noticeably sounds bad. I just can't justify getting rid of a Bose speaker that isn't broken for a HomePod...
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We hire people who want to make the best things in the world.
Sometimes life is going to hit you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith.
Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn't matter to me. Going to bed at night saying we've done something wonderful, that's what matters to me.”
RIP genius!
You were affected so much in my life and others!
Thank you for everything!
We hire people who want to make the best things in the world.
Sometimes life is going to hit you in the head with a brick. Don't lose faith.
Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn't matter to me. Going to bed at night saying we've done something wonderful, that's what matters to me.”
RIP genius!
You were affected so much in my life and others!
Thank you for everything!
What’s so amusing about all this Steve worship is it was rarely the case when he was alive. But now that’s all whitewashed and everything under Steve was the most innovative thing ever and Apple never had hardware or software issues in the Steve era. What a joke.
He would have never allowed the notch..never.. "You have got to be kidding me?! Go back and make it work! I want an embedded fingerprint sensor under the screen!" We're not going to obstruct the screen! Don't come back to me until it's right!"
Ad hominem aside, I am a huge fan of Jobs, and agree that nobody can truly replace him. Hell, Tim Cook has gone on record saying the same things.
Also, what relevance does your OS use have with regards to this conversation, or the weight of either of our opinions?
Valid and fair points.
I am hoping it will fill a couple spaces in my home for similar reasons too, and hope it does become a success. I just won’t personally judge the device as being good or bad until I an try it out myself.
no way would steve have put up with the crass incompetence shown by some of the **** in charge in the last few years
tc fired scott forstall and keeps eddie cue ??? ??? !!! ?? smh
tc fired scott forstall and keeps eddie cue ??? ??? !!! ?? smh
I suggest folks hop onto Youtube and watch Jobs launch the iPhone and the iMac. People in the audience actually jumped up and down, standing and clapping wasn't enough to express their joy and approval. Tim is a good CEO, but he's not a visionary. He doesn't do the things that Jobs did, he doesn't reject products for being mediocre or for features not being thought out. He keeps incompetent people like Eddie Cue on board even though they bring zero value to the company.
Jobs product launches were truly revolutionary. They either created a new market space or brought something radically new and different to an existing space. All we are getting from Cook & Co. are iterations of Jobs' creations. Even iPhone X is just okay, cannot really compare design-wise with Samsung or others who have done a much better job with the OLED screens. Under Jobs, Apple led. Under Cook, Apple is playing catch up. The level of hyperbole in the iPhone X launch set new records. Cook said this is going to define the next ten years at Apple. Really? I would have thought that would require a new product, like a car or a TV or something we hadn't thought of. The iPhone X is really nothing new to anyone who has looked at what's been available out there for a few years now.
Jobs product launches were truly revolutionary. They either created a new market space or brought something radically new and different to an existing space. All we are getting from Cook & Co. are iterations of Jobs' creations. Even iPhone X is just okay, cannot really compare design-wise with Samsung or others who have done a much better job with the OLED screens. Under Jobs, Apple led. Under Cook, Apple is playing catch up. The level of hyperbole in the iPhone X launch set new records. Cook said this is going to define the next ten years at Apple. Really? I would have thought that would require a new product, like a car or a TV or something we hadn't thought of. The iPhone X is really nothing new to anyone who has looked at what's been available out there for a few years now.
Do we HAVE to keep doing the "Steve walked on water and constantly innovated and Tim sucks" routine every year?
They're different people. Jobs put Cook in charge for a reason.
If you think Jobs knew what he was doing, then you have to think that was a good idea, too.
That said, Jobs was far more charismatic than Cook. That's for sure. And the keynotes do suffer now.
They need someone more charismatic on their team, but they're still doing well as a company.
They're different people. Jobs put Cook in charge for a reason.
If you think Jobs knew what he was doing, then you have to think that was a good idea, too.
That said, Jobs was far more charismatic than Cook. That's for sure. And the keynotes do suffer now.
They need someone more charismatic on their team, but they're still doing well as a company.
I agree but for me I don't think it's so much the products and what they look like that would be different... it's the experience of using them and the quality control. The recent and latest iPhones, the Macs, the Watch, how iOS has developed are, I think, things that Jobs would be proud of - what he would NOT have accepted is for them to be released in the unfinished, beta-like condition they are. And if that mean, for example, everyone in software at Apple working flat out 24/7 for weeks to get iOS 11 properly finished (naturally there'd still be bugs but I mean in a finished, acceptable condition), that's what he'd demand.
And Jobs would have had everyone convinced that it had never been done in the history of the smartphone and people would have jumped up and down.
He was a really great salesman. Cult of personality.
Well "Messiah" is your word. But there is zero doubt he had a profound effect on society. The mouse/trackpad is a computing standard today. Same goes for GUI OSes. He "saved" the music industry, first by making music players truly portable and useful. Early MP3 players were toys with their 1-5 album capacity. Then he created the first successful for-pay music download service, something that made hard format music all but vanish from our life. The smartphone not only looks vastly different than pre-iPhone but the way we use our phones is monumentally different today. For most of us our cell phone is our "brain," and communication nerve center. Landlines are practically obsolete.
His impact goes much further -- just look at all the patents his name is on -- no, not that he actually invented, but that he oversaw and guided. To diminish Jobs by saying "loyalist" see him as a "Messiah," is kind of like saying MLK really wasn't a profound, monumental civil rights leader.
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Most likely not very different from the current product line-up.
I am even more amazed watching Steve's announcement 10 years later. His words were exactly right, "every once and a while a revolutionary product comes along that changes everything."
Wow, he was spot on.
Wow, he was spot on.
"Updates" pretty much means the same thing that I said about the existing products being refined and evolving. While it is certainly a technological marvel the iPhone X is still remarkably similar to the original iPhone at its core.
As far as all the products that came out after 2010, what would that be? Go to Apple's website and look at the top at their main product category list. You'll see Mac, iPad, iPhone, Watch, TV, and Music. The Apple Watch and the HomePod are the only two items I see for sale that aren't just evolutionary devices that can be directly traced to categories that Steve Jobs developed.
As I said, Tim Cook has done an excellent job milking the iPhone for all it is worth. He has added features, pushed it toward a luxury item, and driven the price of the devices to new highs. He has been a tremendous success at squeezing every bit of profit out of the existing product lines. But Tim's successes are financial as opposed to innovative. Increasing stock price does not equal innovation.
Apple CEO Tim Cook has shared a tribute to late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs on the sixth anniversary of his death today.
His passing resulted in an outpouring of grief from family, friends, coworkers, Apple customers, and leaders around the world, ranging from Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates to former U.S. President Barack Obama.
Article Link: Tim Cook Shares Tribute to Steve Jobs on Sixth Anniversary of His Death
And now we're (mostly Tim) is causing Jobs' soul grief! At almost every opportunity he has to KEEP mentioning his name, insessantly. He should be saving it not for anniversary's to be publicly mentioned (just internally within the company) but saving it for grand moments ... that REALLY matter and worth invoking his memory.
It's as if Tim Cook is using Steve's name as a sales pitch and that just sickens me.