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Well yeah but people also need to remember that, (there are alternative search engines now), way back Google made your life easier with search. All of that costs money, time and privacy.
A lot of these moaners are the ones that grew up on Google searching to pass time, catch scandal, current affairs, further education etc etc..
They didn’t mind when it was someones else’s privacy at stake.

Good point. I hadn't thought about that.
 
I don’t believe for one second that there isn’t a way in. This may be a deliberate back door or a bug that has been purposely ignored. I do believe however that Apple have gone much further than anybody else in this regard.

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Well yeah but people also need to remember that, (there are alternative search engines now), way back Google made your life easier with search. All of that costs money, time and privacy.
A lot of these moaners are the ones that grew up on Google searching to pass time, catch scandal, current affairs, further education etc etc..
They didn’t mind when it was someones else’s privacy at stake.

Google didn't invent search. Before Google I was using altavista, infoseek and yahoo. Life was fine.
 
I feel like apple only gets a bad wrap over privacy because they are the only ones who say they actually want to protect it.

Google basically sells your data to any mother fukr they like and no one seems to slam them because they tell you they're selling it all the time.

I want to believe apple is doing its best but the NSA and other hidden guys are reading yo **** whether apple is blocking it or not. Such a shame
 
Anonymous VPN accounts and Tor browser are great for avoiding being logged when you are brute forcing an account password.

You will be detected before you cracked it, doesn't matter if your logged or not. Logins are something that is always heavily monitored. That's why 99.999999% of brute force attacks will not be done through the network. Way way way too slow and too obvious and most time impossible too (since there is a lockout or something to slow down your attempts).

Better attack one privilieged account through a social engineering / malware. People have gotten into banks and secured facilities that way. Humans are the real weak link, not technology.

Web Sites also have horrible security and that enables to get access to the back end DB and all their user accounts, or simply use the Web site to propagate malware.
 
After Steve's passing I was thinking that would be the end of Apple. I have to say, Mr Cook I have much respect for you and for Apple. You know what the company stands for, you listen to customers and respect opinions. Good job sir! Will every product be perfect. The answer to that is no.... Jobs pushed apple forward and Jobs friend Cook will do the same.
 
They're both huge issues. I'm not saying Google is innocent in the security game.

I'm simply saying Apple isn't infallible. There are some people here who base their decision to go with Apple solely because of how secure they are and how much they trust Apple with their data.

No matter what Tim Cook says on television, Apple's systems are no more secure than any other system on the Internet.

Simply not true. Is it perfect? No. Just as susceptible to social engineering as most sites, when not properly secured. But it is more secure than a lot of systems.
 
Better attack one privilieged account through a social engineering / malware. People have gotten into banks and secured facilities that way. Humans are the real weak link, not technology.

That's a very good point.

What I would like to see Tim Cook do with iCloud is enable an advanced but accessible two-factor authentication system with more customer notification if an account is breached from an unauthorized location. They could keep track of validated user IP addresses or locations and be more wary of entry attempts from other sources.

But mostly, I want him to do something other than just making the claim that iCloud is secure and everyone's data is automatically safe.

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Simply not true. Is it perfect? No. Just as susceptible to social engineering as most sites, when not properly secured. But it is more secure than a lot of systems.

Based on what? Tim Cook saying so on television?

By all means, if you have data supporting your claim please share. I have an iPad myself, so this affects me as a customer.
 
And the million shares of Apple stock that he got as a bonus. That's at least a half a billion dollars. That helps keep the fires burning.

All the more why Tim Cook is NOT for the shareholders. When you've got enough money, you do what you WANT to do, not what the shareholders want you to do.
 
"We try to respect your privacy, but when we feel you should have the new U2 album then we'll force it onto your devices."

People, hurry up and get over this. If you don't like the album it's just like getting junk mail in your letterbox. Do you sue the advertiser?

I never seen so much complaining about something that was given away for free. (The exception being salvation.)
 
He was talking about the iMessages on their servers are encrypted and they don't have the key.

Literally there's a key file to unlock the encryption. If you don't have that key no one can decrypt it.

I don't think you understand the product let alone the technology behind the product. Let the big boy engineers worry about it you go play your candy crush.

Completely lied about them not holding the encryption keys to iMessage. Users don't hold them... Learn your products mr cook.
 
People, hurry up and get over this. If you don't like the album it's just like getting junk mail in your letterbox. Do you sue the advertiser?

I never seen so much complaining about something that was given away for free. (The exception being salvation.)

You're missing the point of why people are upset about this. Last week Apple pushed an album out to everyone's devices.

What stops them later down the line from pushing a great new social or entertainment app to your phone without your consent that you can't remove?

Would that bother you? Or would you just tell people to hurry up and get over it?
 
That doesn't even make sense.

"Sad to hear what is not true!"

Sad is an emotion you feel sad.

You heard something that is not true so you feel sad about it.

Understand what the heck you're talking about before saying it.



sad to hear what is not true !
 
Over dramatic much? Apple gave everyone a free album. It's not a conspiracy you crack pot.

You're missing the point of why people are upset about this. Last week Apple pushed an album out to everyone's devices.

What stops them later down the line from pushing a great new social or entertainment app to your phone without your consent that you can't remove?

Would that bother you? Or would you just tell people to hurry up and get over it?
 
Yes, altavista in particular was very good. I don't think Yahoo had a search engine before Google came out in late 1997.

Yeah, it was a directory. But back in the day that was more or less good enough. I agree, altavista was the best. And google wasn't substantially better, at least not at first.
 
Over dramatic much? Apple gave everyone a free album. It's not a conspiracy you crack pot.

No, Apple forced a free album onto everyone. If they gave it or offered it to people, it would have been opt-in.

You seem so sure that Apple won't use their ability to push things to your phone that it feels you should have to start sneak-installing applications and services.

I hope for your sake, at least, that you're right.
 
I am pretty paranoid about rampant privacy invasion these days...but I do trust Tim Cook more than any other CEO and certainly, the government (who is totally out of control with NSA, TSA, T&A, etc.)
 
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