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I find it more interesting that he said they worked on the Watch after Steve's passing (Oct 2001), but in the keynote he says they were working on it for 4 years, which would be started before his passing.

You think he and others hid this project behind his back? Or is he trying to steer credit away from Jobs and to himself?

Apple prototypes everything. It's very likely that the iWatch was in a very early concept planning/prototyping stage in 2011. However, that doesn't mean Steve Jobs had green lighted it to become a product or even knew of its potential.

Kevin Lynch, according to Cook, led Watch OS development. He wasn't hired until early 2013. Apple ramped up iWatch development in the last two years.

Cook talked a little bit about the period after Jobs death in one of his All Things D interviews. He essentially said they finally had to move on.

But what happened to Steve leaving Apple with a four year product pipeline?

Things change. Jobs couldn't have predicted what Apple would need to do. At least two of Jobs's final projects haven't even seen the light of day yet (Campus 2 and the forthcoming Apple television). iCloud was one Jobs's final projects also, but Apple seems to have rebooted it somewhat (with iOS 8's iCloud drive).
 
Its called people having opinions.

Opinions worth the money paid for them.

The iPod was widely panned on its initial release on tech and mac sites and proclaimed a failure on day 1 back in October 2001 when it was released. Look for the infamous thread 500 here, or the old slashdot thread.

Most people are not visionaries and cannot predict the future.
 
Before the Apple Watch I'd have said they're fine. But the Apple Watch is disturbingly ... un-Apple.
What does un-Apple even mean? Lets go back 30 years and tell me what Apple products were un-Apple. Were the beige boxes un-Apple? Or the Cube? Or the Clamshell iBook?
 
Is this still an apple fan site? Just asking because there is so much bitching going on here today in the comments...

It is possible to be a fan you know without offering blind, unbridled praise over every single thing Apple does.
 
The article is right. The apple watch is totally an apple product and I'm sure it's not far off what Steve would have liked.

You can see this product evolve for many years to come, it's an interesting product with an unique experience that has the potential to generate an entire industry again, just like the ipod, iphone and ipad did.

most revisions will be about making it thinner, more battery life and adding functionality.


The only thing i'm truly upset about is the bigger iphone. That decision still feels like market pressure and not like a design decision. iphone 5 is big enough. iphone6 looks like a samedung. :(
I want to check it out in real first, before I finally judge the producth. but today i have no need for a bigger iphone.
 
Not sure how Jobs (as many issues that dude had) would feel about Apple releasing two versions of the iPhone Galaxy, killing the only iPod that has a meaningful size, force feeding Apple's clients some stupid album form one of the most overrated bands in history, and "beautifying" the operating systems without addressing some serious issues first.

I'm pretty disgusted with all this and very much regret right now having spent thousands of dollars on having moved my complete household over to Apple. With all this junk I might as well have stayed with Microsoft. At least then I wouldn't have to go now and delete music by Boner and has palls.

Great post. I still can't believe they brought U2 out there and crammed that garbage down everyone's throat. Worst band ever, worst lead of a band ever too. Boner is a political pinko communist that needs to go away...preferably to another solar system.

I really like my iPad and my MacBook. However, the rest of apples lineup seems overpriced and over glorified. The phones are no better than anyone else's and worse in some cases. This watch thing is a joke. Can't wait to see all the dweebs stuffing their face into their watches now. And this watch requires you to have an iPhone? Wow. So, for about $1200 bucks you can be a hipster too.

Whatever. :D
 
The iPod was widely panned on its initial release on tech and mac sites and proclaimed a failure on day 1 back in October 2001 when it was released. Look for the infamous thread 500 here, or the old slashdot thread.

Most people are not visionaries and cannot predict the future.

True. It's interesting how similar the criticisms were of the iPod: too expensive, unnecessary, Jobs had lost his touch, Apple was going down in flames. People had gotten so committed to the rumors of a revived Newton that an mp3 player seemed like a step backwards. But none of us could have predicted how the iPod would change the world and change Apple.

At this point, I'm reserving judgment on the watch. On one hand, watches have long seemed like a thing of the past to me; I don't wear one anymore, so the keynote's focus on perfect timekeeping and timepiece-as-elegant-jewelry don't particularly appeal to me. The watch design itself also was more traditionally watch-like (even retro?) than I expected; I was imagining something more futuristic. And it does seem really expensive for an accessory. All in all, I wasn't blown away, and I'm not convinced that I need one.

That said, I thought the iPad was unnecessary when it came out, and now I use mine all the time. For me, a lot will come down to apps and functionality, and I got the sense that there was a lot we didn't hear about in the keynote.

I love the idea of using the watch to pay for things, though that's not worth $350 to me. More subtle notifications from my phone (no loud vibrate and having to pull it out of my pocket to see who messaged me) is a plus, of course. But I'm intrigued by some of the things we didn't hear about: What kind of health data can it read about me? (Just my heartbeat? More? What can it learn from that?) Cook mentioned that it can function as a viewfinder for the iPhone camera; how does that work? (Selfies from the iSight?) What else can this thing do out of the box, and what avenues does it open for developers?

A lot of what was demoed at the keynote seemed to me to be scratching the surface. I don't care about doodling to another watch-wearer or crafting my own emoji faces. But I think there's some tremendous potential for a platform like this, and I'm curious to see where it will go.
 
You're quoting the same MacRumors that said you could update to the GM of iOS 8 OTA?

Listen losthorse, I am an Apple Fanboy, I make no apologies for that. In fact, that's why I'm here. And while you can think I'm wrong, I have a feeling the sales will speak for themselves. But when you use insults to attempt to prove your point, your entire argument rings hallow.

Here are some of my predictions that just happen to have come true:

16GB - 64GB - 128GB
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19569066#post19569066

NFC on the iPhone January 2014 (I'm particularly proud of this one)
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=18685665#post18685665
 
At this point, I'm reserving judgment on the watch. On one hand, watches have long seemed like a thing of the past to me; I don't wear one anymore, so the keynote's focus on perfect timekeeping and timepiece-as-elegant-jewelry don't particularly appeal to me. The watch design itself also was more traditionally watch-like (even retro?) than I expected; I was imagining something more futuristic. And it does seem really expensive for an accessory. All in all, I wasn't blown away, and I'm not convinced that I need one.

Well put. I also have reservations about this new gadget, although thinking it's more of a toy than anything. The iPhone gives me what I need and more, and by the keynote yesterday, the iWatch is nothing but a fun companion with a few added bells & whistles! Probably no apparent need to send my live heart beat or notch you for lunch when my iPhone takes care of that.
 
Woa

Is this still an apple fan site? Just asking because there is so much bitching going on here today in the comments...

What does that mater? If you really care about Apple and Apple products you will let EVERYONE know what YOU really feel and what YOU really think.
 
Love all the complaints from people who haven't seen this watch in person, let alone used it for any significant period of time. Will I buy one? No, I haven't been convinced that any smart watch is worth it, but jeez guys...
 
Evolution

I felt the event was far from lackluster. Granted, the iPhones adding minor incremental upgrades (barometer and bigger screens) didn't seem all that interesting, the Apple Watch video narrated by Jony Ive was incredible. The attention to detail, usability, and style far exceeds any sub-par implementation done by other manufacturers. Speaking objectively (I love many different products, not just Apple), There is simply no other watch product that integrates in a seamless and elegant way than the Apple Watch did at that event.

As for Apple Pay, most say it's far from original (which, might be true) and I have to agree in some respects there. They should have released this along time ago. That aside, other companies have just failed to execute the way Apple is for Pay. For example, using Google Wallet isn't that straight-forward to set up. Merchant support for it is lackluster, and people aren't rushing to the gates to trust Google with their credit card information.

I think the self-centered design of the watch is a new direction for Apple. It's great to have technology with features that are actually useful and work seamlessly.
 
Is this still an apple fan site? Just asking because there is so much bitching going on here today in the comments...
It's part of the techie crowd demographic that lurks in these forums. Very critical of something new and lacking vision for what the product can achieve. You can see the same reaction from these forums when Steve Jobs announced the iPod and iPad (never checked out initial iPhone reaction). People who were on these forums were tearing it apart.

I wouldn't call this website an Apple fan site. Apple's true fans are the non techie "normal" people who wouldn't frequent a site like this.
 
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