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Yes shiny remote that can't beam you 4K content. Maybe Apple will make a 4K Apple TV in 2017 and you'll buy that one too.

But guess what, my 2013 XBox One is 4K ready...
I have no 4K TV, my internet service is not capable of streaming in 4K, and even if these weren't the case, 95% of all of the media content on iTunes is not in 4K.
Also, your Xbox One is definitely not 4K ready.
 
These interviews are incredibly boring. I knew before it started what questions would be asked and I had a pretty good idea what answers Cook would give. I guess the only surprise was no question about falling iPad sales. But other than that it was entirely predictable.
Did you notice that less and less critical questions are being tossed at Apple?

I feel there's a million questions one should ask to push them forward, but the questions seem mostly iPhone 16GB buyer level. (nothing against people who are content with the 16GB model, I'm glad you're golden with your choice, I'm just saying that the low-demand fraction of the user base gets covered, meanwhile power users and professionals are left in the dust. I don't expect clear cut answers, but it'd be nice to get at least an idea of when or if not, why Apple won't implement H.265 for example. Regardless of 4K, because it provides many benefits. My personal guess is that they're waiting for 4K to arrive in their own products across the board and then tout that your 4K content takes up just as much bandwidth or space as your FHD content, meanwhile years of more storage and bandwidth use pass by if you like the Apple ecosystem. That's just one example, but I picked this one, because it's something even Average Joe would profit from, even though Average Joe doesn't know he should ask this question. Much like how I probably don't know some very interesting questions to ask my car dealer/manufacturer.)

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The watch that he gave no hard sales numbers.
The TV that doesn't even support 4K and has no live-streaming deals in place.

The iPhone is literally the only thing Apple has.

I don't need sales numbers to enjoy my Apple Watch.

What's the obsession with 4K ? There's little to no content, and streaming 4K requires loads of bandwidth to make it worthwhile. Plus most people sit at a distance / have TV sized so that they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. A high quality 1080p feed is far better than a borderline 4K feed.

Apple dropping 4K support means that games and the UI will run better and faster, while not making any real tangible difference to videos. 4K or not, the new ATV is going to be a revolution.
 
I don't need sales numbers to enjoy my Apple Watch.

What's the obsession with 4K ? There's little to no content, and streaming 4K requires loads of bandwidth to make it worthwhile. Plus most people sit at a distance / have TV sized so that they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. A high quality 1080p feed is far better than a borderline 4K feed.

Apple dropping 4K support means that games and the UI will run better and faster, while not making any real tangible difference to videos. 4K or not, the new ATV is going to be a revolution.

Roku has like a bazillion apps and the same universal search feature.
 
I don't need sales numbers to enjoy my Apple Watch.

What's the obsession with 4K ? There's little to no content, and streaming 4K requires loads of bandwidth to make it worthwhile. Plus most people sit at a distance / have TV sized so that they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. A high quality 1080p feed is far better than a borderline 4K feed.

Apple dropping 4K support means that games and the UI will run better and faster, while not making any real tangible difference to videos. 4K or not, the new ATV is going to be a revolution.
Why don't you expect some future-proofing?
What's wrong with choice? Hell, run games and GUI at FHD if it's needed and go to 4K when there's video content for it.

For example content from your iPhone 6S that now shoots 4K video.

I know you can PLAY it, it will downscale, but what about those people with 4K TVs (really not that expensive anymore these days)?

This feature-asynchronity is what bothers many the most.

As for bandwidth needed, well, it's just up to Apple to finally support H.265, also known as HEVC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding

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What's the obsession with 4K ? There's little to no content, and streaming 4K requires loads of bandwidth to make it worthwhile. Plus most people sit at a distance / have TV sized so that they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. A high quality 1080p feed is far better than a borderline 4K feed.

Because 4K TVs are becoming more and more mainstream, and many of us have 4K TVs or will be buying one in the near future.

4K was one of the biggest hopes I had for the new Apple TV as netflix is starting to offer UHD content (or will be soon) and I have a 4K TV and would have liked to have a way of putting that content on my TV.

Why did they put 4K recording in the 6S or why the heck do we have a 4k and 5k iMac if the Apple TV isn't 4K enabled.

Even content between 1080P and 4K looks better than 1080p, and there is some of that around.
 
If you call missing features and organisational methods better than yes it is better.
I knew Photos wasn't a replacement for Aperture but from the reviews I read it seemed to be an improvement over iPhoto. I haven't used it myself.
 
I knew Photos wasn't a replacement for Aperture but from the reviews I read it seemed to be an improvement over iPhoto. I haven't used it myself.

Its pretty useless if you used some of the iPhoto features that are now missing. You can't even continue using events, which I've used for the last 10 years and albums do not make up for the functionality sadly.
 
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I don't need sales numbers to enjoy my Apple Watch.

What's the obsession with 4K ? There's little to no content, and streaming 4K requires loads of bandwidth to make it worthwhile. Plus most people sit at a distance / have TV sized so that they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. A high quality 1080p feed is far better than a borderline 4K feed.

Apple dropping 4K support means that games and the UI will run better and faster, while not making any real tangible difference to videos. 4K or not, the new ATV is going to be a revolution.

While I agree with your sentiment about current 4K, I think it's more about the fact that all of this is true, yet Apple still touts 4K video in the 6S as a major feature, and yet their own, brand-new streaming box can't support it. I'm assuming most are upset about the lack of "future-proofing". Almost definitely a case of them purposely holding back so they can sell us a "new new" Apple TV in a couple years with 4K.

Couple that with the fact that they have a 5K iMac and a brand new 4K one, their stance on 4K seems very jumbled. Are they for it or against it? That's how I feel on the matter anyway.
 
Because 4K TVs are becoming more and more mainstream, and many of us have 4K TVs or will be buying one in the near future.

Yes, but that's just because the TV guys needed something new to sell people. 4K Blu-ray has only just been announced. They've been selling that tech on a promise for ages, doesn't mean everyone else has to be suckered in also.

Why did they put 4K recording in the 6S or why the heck do we have a 4k and 5k iMac if the Apple TV isn't 4K enabled.

Because 4K for filming is useful for cropping, image stabilisation etc. A a 5k iMac is great because you sit so close to the screen and use it for text etc.

Trust me, we're not going to miss 4K on the Apple TV for the next few years while we wait for content and bandwidth to catch up.
 
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While I agree with your sentiment about current 4K, I think it's more about the fact that all of this is true, yet Apple still touts 4K video in the 6S as a major feature, and yet their own, brand-new streaming box can't support it. I'm assuming most are upset about the lack of "future-proofing". Almost definitely a case of them purposely holding back so they can sell us a "new new" Apple TV in a couple years with 4K.

Exactly. Why would i buy a 4th gen Apple TV now (given they're now more expensive) to have a 4K model come out in 2 years - it should have had 4K from the start. Now it means another bloody 2 years or so on the 3rd gen model, which apple annoyingly is not bothering to update even to support Apple music, despite the fact there will be support for Android devices...
 
Also, your Xbox One is definitely not 4K ready.

Nail on the head. Neither the PS4 nor the Xbox One have the proper HDMI outputs to support the amount of data need to push 4K through that cable as of right now.

4K is still far from mainstream. I personally think it's amazing, but you need a constant 25Mbps internet speed to stream 4K content and there just isn't a whole lot of houses that care enough to pay for higher speeds just so they can see the non-existent amounts of 4K video out there.

"Oh goodie kids! We can watch this dude get kicked in the nads on YouTube in 4K!"
 
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Yes, but that's just because the TV guys needed something new to sell people. 4K Blu-ray has only just been announced. They've been selling that tech on a promise for ages, doesn't mean everyone else has to be suckered in also.

Oh please. 4K TVs look great. Even 1080P upscaled looks good, but actual content above 1080 (2K or whatever they call it) looks better than 1080p.


Because 4K for filming is useful for cropping, image stabilisation etc. A a 5k iMac is great because you sit so close to the screen and use it for text etc.

Trust me, we're not going to miss 4K on the Apple TV for the next few years while we wait for content and bandwidth to catch up.

If they're gonna support it on the iPhone which can't even display 4K video, it should be supported on the Apple TV.

Speak for yourself, as trust me, I am going to miss 4K in the AppleTV - I'll miss being able to stream UHD Netflix. Theres even UHD youtube videos, which of course due to either Apple's penny pinching or plans to make the Apple TV 5 sell better, will be left out.
 
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Exactly. Why would i buy a 4th gen Apple TV now (given they're now more expensive) to have a 4K model come out in 2 years

For everything it gives you today ?

Putting 4K in just to tick a checkbox would have sacrificed gaming performance.

Of course they will come out with a 4K device in a couple years, but that will also be matched by a better GPU.

If they're gonna support it on the iPhone which can't even display 4K video, it should be supported on the Apple TV.
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But again 4K video on the iPhone is not to show it in 4K, it's to give you headroom for editing.
 
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For everything it gives you today ?

Putting 4K in just to tick a checkbox would have sacrificed gaming performance.

Of course they will come out with a 4K device in a couple years, but that will also be matched by a better GPU.

Ummm.... If the content (games) are not 4K, it would not be outputting 4K surely.

The only reason Apple is doing this is to make more money with the next one. To give people a reason to upgrade, which is super annoying having to stick with the stagnant Apple TV 3.
 
The only reason Apple is doing this is to make more money with the next one.

Nah Apple will find plenty of other reasons to make you buy the next model, as will the 4K TV makers. I probably won't be buying a 4K TV until they settle on a standard for HDR, as that's what's really going to make the difference in the next gen TV panels. A 4K TV without HDR is going to be a bit behind the times.
 
While I agree with your sentiment about current 4K, I think it's more about the fact that all of this is true, yet Apple still touts 4K video in the 6S as a major feature, and yet their own, brand-new streaming box can't support it. I'm assuming most are upset about the lack of "future-proofing". Almost definitely a case of them purposely holding back so they can sell us a "new new" Apple TV in a couple years with 4K.

Couple that with the fact that they have a 5K iMac and a brand new 4K one, their stance on 4K seems very jumbled. Are they for it or against it? That's how I feel on the matter anyway.

You mean like the future-proofing of iPhones, iMacs, laptops, etc? Buy the device and there's no reason to upgrade to a better one in a few years? Got it...

"Almost definitely a case of them purposely holding back so they can sell us a "new new" Apple TV in a couple years with 4K."

Shocker. And?
 
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Apple Watch didn't "fail" but it didn't live up to Apple's expectations. Cook's reluctance to discuss sales figures proves that. It's a novelty item at best and Apple tried too hard to prove that they can innovate in the post-Jobs era. The AW is one of Apple's least-focused products.

Apple TV is still a tethered "solution to TV" nothing new or amazing there.

Tim Cook just seems so fake as he gives the exact same response to almost every question. Everything is just hunky dory at Apple....
 
Umm no he isn't.

Tim is completely drowning the golden goose! Yes he expand to China and increase Apple sales with an already existing killer product line, but that golden product line is now silver.

In an interview Elon said most of his time is consumed with engineering challenges.. Overcoming what no one else is able to do. Jobs pushed people till he had the perfect product.. What does Tim do?

Tim just dances and enjoys the good like. Just like Ballmer.

Apple are absolutely killing it. The watch, the TV, the iPhone 6S. It's all amazing stuff.

The Iphone 6S is pretty good. I like 3D touch but I know others aren't too impressed yet, which I respect. I still find google now kills Siri, and Maps is meh at best.

I am eager for Apple TV though, after 4 years they needed to release something as the competition had caught up.

The watch.. I'll wait for version two.. I think next time they will get it right. Hopefully they get the price right too.
 
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Plus most people sit at a distance / have TV sized so that they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K.
As a person that owns a 4K TV: Absolutely unequivocally untrue. You can even tell the difference between a regular 1080p signal and an upscaled to 4K 1080p signal. And native 4K content blows both out of the water. It is at least as noticeable as going from SD to HD.
 
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